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China's vast fleet is tipping the balance in the Pacific
China now rules the waves in what it calls the San Hai, or "Three Seas": the South China Sea, East China Sea and Yellow Sea. In these waters, the United States and its allies avoid provoking the Chinese navy.
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Apr 30, 2019, 04.52 PM IST

TAIPEI: A generation ago, from mid-1995 into early 1996, China lobbed missiles in the waters around Taiwan as the self-governing island prepared to hold its first fully democratic presidential election. Washington forcefully intervened to support its ally, sending two aircraft carrier battle groups to patrol nearby. The carriers, then as now the spearhead of American power, intimidated Beijing. The vote went ahead. The missiles stopped.

Today, with tension again running high, Washington still backs Taiwan. Chinese President Xi Jinping on January 2 renewed Beijing's longstanding threat to use force if necessary to restore mainland control over the island. But the United States is now sending much more muted signals of support.

On Sunday, American ships sailed through the Taiwan Strait. This was the seventh passage of U.S. warships through the narrow, strategically sensitive waterway since July. Each time, though, just two U.S. vessels have ventured through; this week, it was a pair of destroyers. No powerful flotillas and certainly no aircraft carriers. It has been more than 11 years since an American carrier traversed the Taiwan Strait.

"The Trump administration faces a dilemma," said Chang Ching, a retired Taiwan naval captain and researcher at the Taipei-based Society for Strategic Studies. "They want to send smart, calibrated signals to Beijing without causing an overreaction or misunderstanding."

This caution is typical of the restraint the U.S. and allied navies, including Japan and Australia, now display in international waters near the Chinese coast, according to more than 10 current and former senior U.S. and Western military officials.

China now rules the waves in what it calls the San Hai, or "Three Seas": the South China Sea, East China Sea and Yellow Sea. In these waters, the United States and its allies avoid provoking the Chinese navy.

In just over two decades, the People's Liberation Army (PLA), the Chinese military, has mustered one of the mightiest navies in the world. This increased Chinese firepower at sea - complemented by a missile force that in some areas now outclasses America's - has changed the game in the Pacific. The expanding naval force is central to President Xi Jinping's bold bid to make China the preeminent military power in the region. In raw numbers, the PLA navy now has the world's biggest fleet. It is also growing faster than any other major navy.

"We thought China would be a great pushover for way too long, and so we let them start the naval arms race while we dawdled," said James Holmes, a professor at the U.S. Naval War College and a former U.S. Navy surface warfare officer.

China's Ministry of National Defense, the U.S. Indo-Pacific Command and the Pentagon did not respond to questions from Reuters.

For the United States, the stakes are now much higher in any operation to support its regional allies, including Japan and Taiwan. America now faces daunting obstacles to any efforts to reinforce heavily outgunned Taiwan in a crisis. Beijing regards Taiwan as a renegade province and is currently building an amphibious force that could give it the capacity to launch an invasion of the island.

Senior Asian defense and security officials say the PLA's naval advances have introduced a new uncertainty in such scenarios: If Beijing can sow serious doubt about whether Washington will intervene against China, it would undermine the value of U.S. security guarantees in Asia.

In November, a bipartisan commission set up by Congress to review the Trump administration's national defense strategy reported that in a war with China over Taiwan, "Americans could face a decisive military defeat."

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As China gains confidence that it can dominate its near seas, it intends to challenge the dominance of the U.S. Navy in distant waters, too, in the Western Pacific and Indian Ocean, according to U.S and Chinese military officials.

Satellite imagery of Chinese dockyards, reports in China's state-controlled media and assessments of U.S. and other foreign naval experts show the PLA navy is expanding as fast as shipyards can weld hulls together. This emerging blue water fleet was just a dream for the early commanders of the communist navy born in 1949, during the closing stages of the nation's civil war. Then, the People's Liberation Army assembled a motley collection of conscripted fishing boats and vessels defecting from the Nationalists.

Since 2014, China has launched more warships, submarines, support ships and major amphibious vessels than the entire number of ships now serving in the United Kingdom's fleet, according to an analysis from the London-based International Institute for Strategic Studies published in May last year. Between 2015 and 2017, China launched almost 400,000 tonnes of naval vessels, about twice the output of U.S. shipyards in that period, the IISS said.

The PLA navy now has about 400 warships and submarines, according to U.S. and other Western naval analysts. By 2030, the Chinese navy could have more than 530 warships and submarines, according to a projection in a 2016 U.S. Naval War College study.

A shrunken and overworked U.S. Navy, which has ruled the oceans virtually unchallenged since the end of the Cold War, had 288 warships and submarines at the end of March, according to the Pentagon.

Globally, the U.S. Navy remains the dominant maritime force, the power that keeps the peace and maintains freedom of navigation on the high seas. Chinese military and political figures say that while their nation's fleet has more ships, America has more powerful ones, and overall supremacy at sea.

"The Chinese navy is at least three decades behind the United States," a retired Chinese naval officer told Reuters, requesting anonymity. "It is too early for the United States to fret."

China, however, has established dominance in the waters closest to its coast.

Then China's naval shipyards started cranking. Satellite imagery of the key yards at Shanghai, Dalian, Guangzhou and Wuhan show them almost continuously crowded with warships and submarines at different stages of construction. Since June 2017, Chinese shipyards have launched four heavily armed Type 055 cruisers, which U.S. and Chinese military officials say are a match for any modern warship.

Multiple warships can be seen under construction in one section of the Jiangnan Shipyard in Shanghai in April 2018, including Type 055 cruisers and Type 052D destroyers, advanced surface warships armed with long-range missiles for attacking naval and airborne targets. The first Type 055 cruiser, the 10,000-tonne Nanchang, has completed most of its sea trials and will soon join the fleet, the Chinese military said on April 25. It will deliver a major boost to China's naval firepower when fully operational.

And the PLA is building a force of modern, amphibious heavy-lift vessels that in time could allow Beijing to mount a landing on Taiwan or disputed territories such as the Japanese-controlled Senkaku Islands, known as the Diaoyu Islands in China. The PLA is also training an expanded force of marines for amphibious landings. China's marines are expected to be a 30,000-strong force by 2020, according to the Pentagon's annual report on Chinese military power released in August.

On February 27, China's second aircraft carrier put to sea from Dalian for its fifth round of sea trials, according to reports in the official media.

By 2020, the PLA navy will boast more big surface warships and submarines than the Russian navy, the former head of the U.S. Pacific Command, Admiral Harry Harris, told a congressional committee last year. Some American naval experts believe China could achieve rough parity with the U.S. Navy in numbers and quality of major surface warships by 2030.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...lance-in-the-pacific/articleshow/69114025.cms
 
LOL, China only spends 1.3% of GDP on the military budget.

When China really starts to ramp up military production, then we'll talk about it.

Meanwhile, Taiwan is wondering why no one is even willing to give them basic diplomatic recognition. In politics, words are cheap, yet they can't even get a few words from their friends.
 
LOL, China only spends 1.3% of GDP on the military budget.

When China really starts to ramp up military production, then we'll talk about it.

Meanwhile, Taiwan is wondering why no one is even willing to give them basic diplomatic recognition. In politics, words are cheap, yet they can't even get a few words from their friends.
Taiwan is a part of China so that is why they do not get recognition as a separate country.
 
Taiwan is a part of China so that is why they do not get recognition as a separate country.

Exactly right. :enjoy:

The use of force should be the absolute last resort though.

China has the largest population in the world, we should have an armed forces that is commensurate with that. Yet we are only spending 1.3% of GDP on the military, this is a situation which can't continue forever, the spending will have to be bumped up eventually.
 
Kai-Shak was supported by foreign forces and it he who separated Taiwan from China while Mao's movement went to make the modern day China and it is the same CPC that is governing China ... though Mao was removed by communist party..to install the Stalin's guy as the chairman.
 
I don't judge who were right and who were wrong, civil wars are all bad. Neither nationalists nor communists put the nation's interest first by fighting each other during the time that foreign enemies were invading China.
During the Japanese invasion they did join forces to fight them right?
 
During the Japanese invasion they did join forces to fight them right?
A loose alliance but both tried to save their true strenghth against each other, they both believe that Japan can never conquer China, sooner or later they would leave, the final control of the nation would only be decided by the result of fighting between them two.
 
A loose alliance but both tried to save their true strenghth against each other, they both believe that Japan can never conquer China, sooner or later they would leave, the final control of the nation would only be decided by the result of fighting between them two.
We learnt this lesson the hard way. We should have been a super power by now if it weren't for this massive set back. Chinese killing Chinese and foreigners arming our brothers to kill each other. Today, China is powerful but not powerful enough, the day we can confidently have 12 nuke carriers facing the US when they cross the straits.....the day will come. Our MIC is already more powerful, let's get the EMALS ready before churning out those carriers.
 
"The Chinese navy is at least three decades behind the United States," a retired Chinese naval officer told Reuters, requesting anonymity. "It is too early for the United States to fret."

PLAN will easily catch up to the USN by 2035. More accurately, PLAN will be able to place more destroyers, subs and carriers in the Pacific than the USN can.

But there's a lot for PLAN to fear from Japan militarising.

This increased Chinese firepower at sea - complemented by a missile force that in some areas now outclasses America's - has changed the game in the Pacific.

One of the biggest reasons for the US to back out of the INF Treaty. Placing CMs on Japanese territory will help tip the balance.
 
PLAN will easily catch up to the USN by 2035. More accurately, PLAN will be able to place more destroyers, subs and carriers in the Pacific than the USN can.

But there's a lot for PLAN to fear from Japan militarising.



One of the biggest reasons for the US to back out of the INF Treaty. Placing CMs on Japanese territory will help tip the balance.
Japan only respects power, if US loses its dominance in Japan, Japan will comfortably come back to its east Asian roots, together with China, Koreas and Singapore to form a EU like East Asian Union.
 
Japan only respects power, if US loses its dominance in Japan, Japan will comfortably come back to its east Asian roots, together with China, Koreas and Singapore to form a EU like East Asian Union.

No chance of that happening. Probably propaganda peddled in your country.

The US won't lose its dominance in Japan simply because nothing is threatening it right now. Even if China becomes twice as powerful as the US, the Chinese won't replace the US in Japan.

As for an economic union, you can be economically intertwined, but politically, no.
 
No chance of that happening. Probably propaganda peddled in your country.

The US won't lose its dominance in Japan simply because nothing is threatening it right now. Even if China becomes twice as powerful as the US, the Chinese won't replace the US in Japan.

As for an economic union, you can be economically intertwined, but politically, no.
What makes you sound so sure, Japan won't always be an US colony, Japan itself advocated a common east Asian Union itself before, East Asian countries are culturally and ideologically very closed related, we share very similar mentality comparing with the western ones, You Indians probably can never fully understand our culture so don't say with certainty about something you know little about.

Japan has not very good relations with China and Korea, but when they decide to allow in foreign immigrants, they do that with Chinese and Koreans, cause they believe the 3 countries racially, culturally and ideologically belong to the same big family.
 
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