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The following video shows President Hu Jintao's motorcade during his visit to Seattle. Count the number of vehicles in his entourage.
In the next video, try counting the number of bodyguards surrounding President Hu Jintao after his press conference in Hong Kong.
Here, President Hu Jintao is being escorted by the Royal Guards in Stockholm, Sweden.
Unbelievably, President Hu Jintao had even more vehicles in his retinue when he visited Lahore, Pakistan than he did in Seattle.
By the way, a few years ago, I was driving into Boston on Mass. Pike when Premier Wen's motorcade passed on its way to a suburban farm (e.g. in Milford or Worcester(?); memory is foggy). I was amazed to see that the motorcade extended for about a mile. Out of curiosity, I checked the nightly news to see who was the "big cheese" (i.e. important person).
In the next video, try counting the number of bodyguards surrounding President Hu Jintao after his press conference in Hong Kong.
Here, President Hu Jintao is being escorted by the Royal Guards in Stockholm, Sweden.
Unbelievably, President Hu Jintao had even more vehicles in his retinue when he visited Lahore, Pakistan than he did in Seattle.
By the way, a few years ago, I was driving into Boston on Mass. Pike when Premier Wen's motorcade passed on its way to a suburban farm (e.g. in Milford or Worcester(?); memory is foggy). I was amazed to see that the motorcade extended for about a mile. Out of curiosity, I checked the nightly news to see who was the "big cheese" (i.e. important person).
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I wish a joyous Christmas to all forum members and readers.
Yours truly,
Martin
YouTube - Jenn's CHRISTMAS PIANO MEDLEY - Cheerful & Lively
YouTube - chinese-christmas-songs (1).mov
Note: Thank you to "tseman" for the video links.
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Santa Claus (i.e. Dun Che Lao Ren) is Chinese. How else can you explain that Santa's toys are all made in China?
Yours truly,
Martin
YouTube - Jenn's CHRISTMAS PIANO MEDLEY - Cheerful & Lively
YouTube - chinese-christmas-songs (1).mov
Note: Thank you to "tseman" for the video links.
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Santa Claus (i.e. Dun Che Lao Ren) is Chinese. How else can you explain that Santa's toys are all made in China?
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VIDEO: Chinese Military 2010 -- PLA Conventional Forces
This is an interesting video, because I saw some new video footage. For example, there is a "cold launch" (at 4:38 in the video) of a missile from a naval ship. At 3 minutes and 11 seconds into the video, a missile is launched from a Chinese submarine.
Also, I saw a pontoon river crossing of very large Chinese trucks. For more information on the Chinese invention of the "pontoon bridge in the 11th century BC," see citation below.
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Pontoon bridge - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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In ancient China, the Zhou Dynasty Chinese text of the Shi Jing (Book of Odes) records that King Wen of Zhou was the first to create a pontoon bridge in the 11th century BC. However, the historian Joseph Needham has pointed out that in all likely scenarios, the temporary pontoon bridge was invented during the 9th or 8th century BC in China, as this part was perhaps a later addition to the book (considering how the book had been edited up until the Han Dynasty, 202 BC–220 AD). Although earlier temporary pontoon bridges had been made in China, the first secure and permanent ones (and linked with iron chains) in China came first during the Qin Dynasty (221 BC–207 BC). The later Song Dynasty (960–1279 AD) Chinese statesman Cao Cheng once wrote of early pontoon bridges in China (spelling of Chinese in Wade-Giles format):
The Chhun Chhiu Hou Chuan says that in the 58th year of the Zhou King Nan (257 BC), there was invented in the Qin State the floating bridge (fou chhiao) with which to cross rivers. But the Ta Ming ode in the Shih Ching (Book of Odes) says (of King Wen) that he ‘joined boats and made of them a bridge’ over the River Wei. Sun Yen comments that this shows that the boats were arranged in a row, like the beams (of a house) with boards laid (transversely) across them, which is just the same as the pontoon bridge of today. Tu Yu also thought this... Cheng Khang Chheng says that the Zhou people invented it and used it whenever they had occasion to do so, but the Qin people, to whom they handed it down, were the first to fasten it securely together (for permanent use).
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During the Eastern Han Dynasty (25–220 AD), the Chinese created a very large pontoon bridge that spanned across the width of the Yellow River. There was also the rebellion of Gongsun Shu in 33 AD, where a large pontoon bridge with fortified posts was constructed across the Yangtze River, eventually broken through with ramming ships by official Han troops under Commander Cen Peng. During the late Eastern Han into the Three Kingdoms period, during the Battle of Chibi in 208 AD, the Prime Minister Cao Cao once linked the majority of his fleet together with iron chains, which proved to be a fatal mistake once he was thwarted with a fire attack by Sun Quan's fleet.
The armies of Emperor Taizu of Song had a large pontoon bridge built across the Yangtze River in 974 in order to secure supply lines during the Song Dynasty's conquest of the Southern Tang.[2] (article continues)"
This is an interesting video, because I saw some new video footage. For example, there is a "cold launch" (at 4:38 in the video) of a missile from a naval ship. At 3 minutes and 11 seconds into the video, a missile is launched from a Chinese submarine.
Also, I saw a pontoon river crossing of very large Chinese trucks. For more information on the Chinese invention of the "pontoon bridge in the 11th century BC," see citation below.
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Pontoon bridge - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"Ancient China
In ancient China, the Zhou Dynasty Chinese text of the Shi Jing (Book of Odes) records that King Wen of Zhou was the first to create a pontoon bridge in the 11th century BC. However, the historian Joseph Needham has pointed out that in all likely scenarios, the temporary pontoon bridge was invented during the 9th or 8th century BC in China, as this part was perhaps a later addition to the book (considering how the book had been edited up until the Han Dynasty, 202 BC–220 AD). Although earlier temporary pontoon bridges had been made in China, the first secure and permanent ones (and linked with iron chains) in China came first during the Qin Dynasty (221 BC–207 BC). The later Song Dynasty (960–1279 AD) Chinese statesman Cao Cheng once wrote of early pontoon bridges in China (spelling of Chinese in Wade-Giles format):
The Chhun Chhiu Hou Chuan says that in the 58th year of the Zhou King Nan (257 BC), there was invented in the Qin State the floating bridge (fou chhiao) with which to cross rivers. But the Ta Ming ode in the Shih Ching (Book of Odes) says (of King Wen) that he ‘joined boats and made of them a bridge’ over the River Wei. Sun Yen comments that this shows that the boats were arranged in a row, like the beams (of a house) with boards laid (transversely) across them, which is just the same as the pontoon bridge of today. Tu Yu also thought this... Cheng Khang Chheng says that the Zhou people invented it and used it whenever they had occasion to do so, but the Qin people, to whom they handed it down, were the first to fasten it securely together (for permanent use).
—[1]
During the Eastern Han Dynasty (25–220 AD), the Chinese created a very large pontoon bridge that spanned across the width of the Yellow River. There was also the rebellion of Gongsun Shu in 33 AD, where a large pontoon bridge with fortified posts was constructed across the Yangtze River, eventually broken through with ramming ships by official Han troops under Commander Cen Peng. During the late Eastern Han into the Three Kingdoms period, during the Battle of Chibi in 208 AD, the Prime Minister Cao Cao once linked the majority of his fleet together with iron chains, which proved to be a fatal mistake once he was thwarted with a fire attack by Sun Quan's fleet.
The armies of Emperor Taizu of Song had a large pontoon bridge built across the Yangtze River in 974 in order to secure supply lines during the Song Dynasty's conquest of the Southern Tang.[2] (article continues)"
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Probable Chinese hypersonic air-to-air missile test
The video has stirred many people. In my analysis, I conclude it's a hypersonic air-to-air missile.
From the opening scene, we seen a long horizontal contrail that extends tens of miles into the distance. It should be obvious to you the hypersonic missile is not that far above the ground/city and flying horizontally. If the missile had been flying vertically, the camera would have to pan up dramatically (like a Shenzhou flight). Instead, the horizon line in the video is relatively constant.
The hypersonic air-to-air missile flight shares the same "bow shock" as a hypersonic ballistic missile/rocket (see Shenzhou 9 flight). However, in the video, the hypersonic air-to-air missile has a blindingly white nose cone. This is a result of traveling hypersonically in dense low-altitude atmosphere. You never see a blindingly white Shenzhou nose cone, because it travels hypersonically through the rarefied high-altitude atmosphere.
The PLA has to conduct its hypersonic air-to-air missile test over continental China, because the U.S. has many sensors on ships waiting offshore to monitor a seaborne test. No one wants to share their test flight data with the other side.
The PLA probably intentionally conducted the test on a day with high moisture level to create an easily discernible bow-shock trail for later analysis.
The timing of the test during twilight was also probably intentional to create a high-contrast video. The video of the hypersonic test flight can be analyzed through spectroscopy to determine the temperature of the hypersonic air-to-air missile's nose cone.
After 30 seconds into the video, the bow-shock briefly stops and a second bow-shock is seen. This looks like the missile slowed down and then picked up speed again. Did the PLA intentionally throttle the engine momentarily as part of the test?
I believe the Chinese air-to-air missile is hypersonic, because I've never seen a bow shock this large. Supersonic aircraft or missiles create very small bow shocks and moisture condensation. Ramjets "as a class work most efficiently at speeds around Mach 3." I think China was testing a higher-speed hypersonic scramjet engine.
The video has stirred many people. In my analysis, I conclude it's a hypersonic air-to-air missile.
From the opening scene, we seen a long horizontal contrail that extends tens of miles into the distance. It should be obvious to you the hypersonic missile is not that far above the ground/city and flying horizontally. If the missile had been flying vertically, the camera would have to pan up dramatically (like a Shenzhou flight). Instead, the horizon line in the video is relatively constant.
The hypersonic air-to-air missile flight shares the same "bow shock" as a hypersonic ballistic missile/rocket (see Shenzhou 9 flight). However, in the video, the hypersonic air-to-air missile has a blindingly white nose cone. This is a result of traveling hypersonically in dense low-altitude atmosphere. You never see a blindingly white Shenzhou nose cone, because it travels hypersonically through the rarefied high-altitude atmosphere.
The PLA has to conduct its hypersonic air-to-air missile test over continental China, because the U.S. has many sensors on ships waiting offshore to monitor a seaborne test. No one wants to share their test flight data with the other side.
The PLA probably intentionally conducted the test on a day with high moisture level to create an easily discernible bow-shock trail for later analysis.
The timing of the test during twilight was also probably intentional to create a high-contrast video. The video of the hypersonic test flight can be analyzed through spectroscopy to determine the temperature of the hypersonic air-to-air missile's nose cone.
After 30 seconds into the video, the bow-shock briefly stops and a second bow-shock is seen. This looks like the missile slowed down and then picked up speed again. Did the PLA intentionally throttle the engine momentarily as part of the test?
I believe the Chinese air-to-air missile is hypersonic, because I've never seen a bow shock this large. Supersonic aircraft or missiles create very small bow shocks and moisture condensation. Ramjets "as a class work most efficiently at speeds around Mach 3." I think China was testing a higher-speed hypersonic scramjet engine.
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Why does it need 2 minutes and a half to travel the visible distance at hypersonic speeds?
If your answer is that because it is far, how big is that trail then in width? 50 km?
Looks fake anyway, white is computer white superimposed, music selection etc.......but nice to see you trying again to earn the .50c and glorify dear China...
Also lol, i just noticed, the trail of the "new Chinese supa doopa missile" passes below the smoke from the industrial area ie. the white contrail is seen over the darker smoke, which could not have been possible in real life if the factory is closer and the craft high up in the sky. It's very nicely visible on the start of the video, when the hoax man zooms in....
Dude, you seriously have been in business of charming a particularly dumb crowd in the past if you think this shit's gonna fly.....
If your answer is that because it is far, how big is that trail then in width? 50 km?
Looks fake anyway, white is computer white superimposed, music selection etc.......but nice to see you trying again to earn the .50c and glorify dear China...
Also lol, i just noticed, the trail of the "new Chinese supa doopa missile" passes below the smoke from the industrial area ie. the white contrail is seen over the darker smoke, which could not have been possible in real life if the factory is closer and the craft high up in the sky. It's very nicely visible on the start of the video, when the hoax man zooms in....
Dude, you seriously have been in business of charming a particularly dumb crowd in the past if you think this shit's gonna fly.....
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Why does it need 2 minutes and a half to travel the visible distance at hypersonic speeds?
If your answer is that because it is far, how big is that trail then in width? 50 km?
Looks fake anyway, white is computer white superimposed, music selection etc.......but nice to see you trying again to earn the .50c and glorify dear China...
Also lol, i just noticed, the trail of the "new Chinese supa doopa missile" passes below the smoke from the industrial area ie. the white contrail is seen over the darker smoke, which could not have been possible in real life if the factory is closer and the craft high up in the sky. It's very nicely visible on the start of the video, when the hoax man zooms in....
Dude, you seriously have been in business of charming a particularly dumb crowd in the past if you think this shit's gonna fly.....
Actually if you bother to look closer you'll see the industrial smoke moving in front and across the bright contrail. Place anything bright behind some not so dense smoke with little light and you'll be hard pressed to spot it.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZdsr_EeUgg&feature=related
Also you could have done a little research your self. For example this UFO sighting is amongst at least three during July 2010. They were very widely reported and covered on the news channels and the internet and they were accounted by many people as well. I don't know what it is but it's not fake.
Also here's one of a Russian missile. This UFO was seen in 4-5 different countries at the same time. Now imagine the height it would have been at for that to happen. Seems quite similar....no?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q1GIWf6PHI
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Ofcourse pyramid shaped alien ship explains everything...silly me.
It does, but on the other hand there are some inconsistencies, namely the missing of "2nd stage ignition" like on Martian's video and the fact that at it is most visible for about 20 secs (big contrail), then it disapears, while martian's keeps on going. Also the dissipation of moisture after separation (contrail shape and pattern) on Martian's video are very clear and symmetrical while on the Russian video not exactly so.
Honestly, i don't know but from a far it just looks like dirty commie propaganda to me.
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Guess I should have put a disclaimer saying that "I only posted that video as a source of the screenshot I took". But then again I never thought anyone would disregard what I wrote and only watch the video. I thought i made it amply clear that my contentions were on the authenticity of the video and that alone. One can believe that it's a flying moon-cow with a rainbow colored tail for all I care.
Well the video I posted was of a Russian ICBM seen over the middle-east. Don't know which missile is it in Martian's video so discrepancies are a given. Interestingly if you watch other amateur footage of the Russian missile you'l see it go into a spiral and seem like a twirly firecracker before it vanishes. Moreover the contrail shape and pattern are dependent on a hundred atmospheric variables. The angle from which you view it would also effect it (check out the different videos of the Russian missile). You could fire the same missile from the same spot on two different days and you could see completely different contrails.
Anyway at least to me the most logical explanation is that it was another Chinese ICBM test.
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It is the most logical explanation, however the "2nd stage ignition" is puzzling. Thats the moment where the first contrail disapears for a second and another one emerges.
Also it seems to be flying straight, where ICBM's generally go down...on videos of Russian ICBM from the Middle East the arc is clearly visible on some shots (depending on perspective), here it is not.
One possible explanation if this isn't a hoax would be a maneuverable-powered MIRV, possibly one of prerequisites for a working DF-21 carrier killed ICBM (which in itself doesnt mean they got it working), or depending where this was taken a Russian MIRV boosted penetrator (to help it survive ballistic missile defense shield)-it is claimed they shot something like this earlier this year. I know the video is from 2010 so it doesnt really add up, but we can never know if they were honest about their test cycle for that particular missile. That's just my speculation though.
According to youtube comments of the video it seems the Chines government said this was a failed ICBM test.
So it looks like an ICBM, and it malfunctions probably while already failed some objective (correct orbit for separation) but the onboard computer goes on with 2nd stage ignition. Sounds plausible, but it still travels awfully horizontally.
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Quite possibly true. The Russian test was also deemed a failure by most of the military analysts around the world (largely because of the spiraling fireball that the missile's flight ended in). The Russian official statement however maintained that the test was a success. But that is what you get with these things; closed curtains sprouting speculations of UFOs, Thor's visit to earth, Nyan cat passing by and what not. We can't be sure what it was. The only thing we know is that there was something there, as was witnessed by hundreds of people.
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