CardSharp
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That's right. We had our "Century of humiliation" (bai nian guo chi) at the hands of foreign powers.
China never became a full colony, but it didn't need to. Qing China was so weak, that it essentially became a tributary state, to the West and to Japan.
Quite right, the west helped the Qing put down the Taiping rebellion precisely because they felt they could leech off of China more efficiently with a corrupt Qing administration.
Hey CardSharp,
May be i'm an "old monkey" (chronologically compared to you), but i do feel that i'd like to focus on what i'm doing and and where i'd intend to go. As for perceptions of "pride", "defiance" "bellicosity" and so on, they are only perceptions. In Indian philosophy we have a (apt) word for it "Maya" which loosely translates as "imaginary, make-believe, unreal" but real enough to be able to hold you in to its clutches.
i am happy being a "patient old monkey". If the path is clear the destination will have to be reached.
How does it matter what the West (or anybody else) thinks.
agreed