China's Submarines?

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[grey boy 2]

Greeting,

Brothers and Sisters, I haven't heard much about attack submarines or nuclear, I know China has some of good submarines including nuclear.

Is this correct 80 approximately submarines China has? Despite developing Aircraft Carrier and more ships, is China developing currently more submarines and how good they are in both quality and quantity?

I appreciate your input and explanation for better understanding myself.

Thanks.

Hi, brother; may be this link will help,

Submarines - SinoDefence.com

Designation NATO Codename North Sea Fleet East Sea Fleet South Sea Fleet Total
Nuclear-Powered Submarines
Type 094
Jin Class ? 0 ? 2
Type 093
Shang Class ? 0 ? 2
Type 092
Xia Class 1 0 0 1
Type 091
Han Class 3 0 0 3
Total - 7 0 0 8

Diesel-Electric Submarines
Type 039A
Yuan Class 0 0 1 1 (1)
Project 636/877EKM
Kilo Class 0 8 4 12
Type 039/G/G1
Song Class 4 6 6 16
Type 035
Ming Class 12 0 6 18
Type 033
Romeo Class 6 0 2 8
Total - 22 14 19 55 (1)


Type 094 (Jin Class) Nuclear-Powered Missile Submarine

The Type 094 (also referred to as Type 09-IV, NATO reporting name: Jin class) is the PLA Navy’s second-generation nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarine (SSBN), succeeding the Type 092 (Xia class) SSBN of a single hull commissioned in 1983. The Type 094 was designed by CSIC’s Wuhan 2nd Ship Design Institute (also known as 719 Institute) in Wuhan, Hubei Province and built by CSIC’s Bohai Shipbuilding Heavy Industry Co. Ltd. (previously known as Bohai Shipyard) in Huludao, Liaoning Province.

Programme

The development of the Type 094 began in the late 1980s to early 1990s, reportedly with assistance of the Rubin Central Design Bureau for Marine Engineering in St. Petersburg, one of Russia’s primary nuclear submarine designer.

Construction of the first-of-class began in 1999 and the submarine was launched in July 2004. A second hull was launched possibly in 2007 and may be commissioned in 2010. Both submarine have been undergoing sea trials, with no test launching of the ballistic missile from the submarine reported so far. The initial operational capability of the submarines may not come until 2012~2015.

The U.S. Office of Naval Intelligence (ONI) predicted in December 2006 that the PRC will need to build a total of five Type 094 SSBNs in order to maintain a near-continuous at-sea SSBN presence, with at least one boat available and ready for missile launch at all times.

Satellite images have captured the two Type 094 SSBNs docked at the Bohai Shipyard, and one of the submarines was also spotted inside the PLA Navy’s nuclear submarine base at Xiaopingdao, Liaoning Province. In April 2008, Federation of American Scientists (FAS) website revealed that a Type 094 SSBN has been deployed to a newly-built nuclear submarine base near the city of Sanyang in Hainan Island [1].

Design


Type 094 SSBN (Chinese Internet)


The Type 094 SSBN bears many similarities with the Type 093 Shang class nuclear-powered attack submarine (SSN), suggesting that the two submarines share the same design baseline. The submarine features a water-drop shape hull, with a pair of fin-mounted hydroplanes and four diving planes.

The dive displacement of the submarine was estimated to be 8,000~9,000 tonnes. The Type 094 has yet approached the performance and capability of modern Russian and Western SSBN designs, especially in quietness and missile number. However, once fully operational, it will offer the PLA Navy with a much more credible sea-based nuclear retaliation capability than that offered by its predecessor Type 092 Xia class.

Missiles

The Type 094 has the capacity to carry 12 submarine-launched ballistic missiles (SLBM). The JuLang 2 SLBM designed and developed by CASIC 4th Academy is a three-stage, solid-propellant strategic ballistic missile. It is a derivation of the land-based DongFeng 31 (DF-31) intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM). The maximum range of the JuLang 2 was estimated to be 7,000~8,000km, three times that of the first-generation JuLang 1 SLBM used by the Type 092.

Each JuLang 2 can carry a single thermalnuclear warhead of 25~1,000kt yield. Alternatively, the missile was said to be able to carry three or more 90kT multiple independently targetable re-entry vehicles (MIRV), though this cannot be confirmed.

Torpedoes

The submarine has six 533mm bow torpedo tubes, and carries a total of 12 Yu-3 (SET-65E) torpedoes, which is equipped with both active and passive homing. The torpedo, with a 205kg warhead, has a maximum range of 15km and a top speed of 40kt. Alternatively, the submarine may carry wake-homing anti-surface torpedoes or wire-homing anti-submarine torpedoes.

Sensors

The submarine is fitted with sophisticated sonar systems, including bow-mounted sonar and H/SQC-207 flank-mounted sonar. Three flank-mounted sonar arrays are clearly visible on the hull of the submarine.

Propulsion

The submarine’s propulsion system is believed to be nuclear, turbo-electric arrangement, consisting of one pressurised water reactor (PWR), with one shaft.

Shiplist

No. Name Shipyard Fleet Launch IOC
? ? Bohai North Sea 2004 ?
? ? Bohai South Sea? 2007 ?

Specifications

Displacement: (Dived) 8,000~9,000t
Missile: 12 X JL-2 SLBM

Type 093 (Shang Class) Nuclear-Powered Attack Submarine

The Type 093 (or 09-III, NATO reporting name: Shang class) is the PLA Navy’s second-generation nuclear-powered attack submarine (SSN), introduced to replace the existing force of five Type 091 (Han class) SSNs. The submarine was designed by the Wuhan 2nd Ship Design institute (also known as 719 Institute) in Wuhan, Hubei province and built by Bohai Shipbuilding Heavy Industry Co. Ltd. (previously Bohai Shipyard) in Huludao, Liaoning Province. So far two boats have reportedly been launched.

Programme

The PRC began to develop its second-generation nuclear submarines in the mid-1980s, but little progress was made before the mid-1990s. It was widely speculated that Rubin Central Design Bureau for Marine Engineering in St. Petersburg, one of main Russian centres of submarine design, has been assisting the PRC in developing its new generation nuclear submarines. Exactly how much help China has received from Rubin Design Bureau is unknown, but it could potentially include a range of critical assistance, including overall hull design, engine and machinery quieting, combat system design, and weapon system and countermeasures outfit.

Construction of the Type 093 began in 1995~96 at the Bohai Shipyard under tight security and high secrecy. The first-of-class submarine was launched in December 2002. After a sea trial that lasted for four years, the submarine was finally commissioned by the PLA Navy North Sea Fleet in December 2006. A second hull was launched in late 2003 and possibly commissioned in 2007. The existence of the submarine project was first reported by the Pentagon in 2003. The U.S. Navy intelligence and Pentagon predicted that the PLA Navy could have 3~4 submarines by 2010, while other sources suggested that eventual production could reach 6~8 boats.

During the exhibition at Beijing’s Military Museum of Chinese People’s Revolution in late July to mark the 80th anniversary of the People’s Liberation Army (PLA), a scale model and some hazy photos of the Type 093 SSN were presented to the public. Later, Beijing-based Modern Ships magazine published in its August issue the first clear photo of the long-anticipated submarine.

Design

The Type 093 is estimated to be 6.000~7,000t displacement when dived. As revealed by the submarine model and Modern Ships photograph, the submarine features a water-drop shape hull, with a pair of fin-mounted hydroplanes and four diving planes. The submarine is fitted with sophisticated sonar systems, including bow-mounted sonar and H/SQC-207 flank-mounted sonar. Three flank-mounted sonar arrays are clearly visible on the hull of the submarine.

The Type 093 submarine has six 533mm bow torpedo tubes (4 above, 2 below), and is presumed to be equipped with a range of anti-submarine and anti-surface vessel torpedoes of wire-, acoustic- and wake-homing, based on both Chinese and Russian designs. The torpedo tubes can also be used to launch Chinese indigenous YJ-82 anti-ship missiles. Some reports suggested the capability of launching land-attack cruise missiles (LACM), but this cannot be confirmed.

Despite the previous rumour that the Type 093 was based on the design of the Russian Victor III class nuclear attack submarine, it appears that the two submarines bear no resemblance in appearance. However, it cannot be ruled out that Russian technologies were being incorporated into the Type 093’s design.

The Type 093 is thought to be approaching the early variants of the U.S. Navy 688 (Los Angeles) class SSN in terms of capability and noise level, but still inferior to the more advanced Seawolf and Virginia class. Nevertheless, this class of nuclear submarine represents a major step forward in PRC’s underwater warfare capability. Once fully operational, it could pose serious threat to the navies of China’s neighbouring countries and further complicate the anti-submarine challenge facing the U.S. Navy.

Shiplist

No. Name Shipyard Fleet Launch IOC Type
? ? Bohai North Sea 2002 Dec 2006 Type 093 Shang Class
? ? Bohai North Sea ? ? Type 093 Shang Class

Specifications

Displacement: (Dived) 6,000~7,000t
Torpedo Tubes: 6 X 533mm

Last update: 4 April 2009

Brother, since the informations were too munch to load on the forum

You can read directly from the link i provided.

 

[SU-57E]

chinese submarine development is just out of the world......

 

[faithfulguy]

Hi, brother; may be this link will help,

Submarines - SinoDefence.com

Designation NATO Codename North Sea Fleet East Sea Fleet South Sea Fleet Total
Nuclear-Powered Submarines
Type 094
Jin Class ? 0 ? 2
Type 093
Shang Class ? 0 ? 2
Type 092
Xia Class 1 0 0 1
Type 091
Han Class 3 0 0 3
Total - 7 0 0 8

Diesel-Electric Submarines
Type 039A
Yuan Class 0 0 1 1 (1)
Project 636/877EKM
Kilo Class 0 8 4 12
Type 039/G/G1
Song Class 4 6 6 16
Type 035
Ming Class 12 0 6 18
Type 033
Romeo Class 6 0 2 8
Total - 22 14 19 55 (1)


Type 094 (Jin Class) Nuclear-Powered Missile Submarine

The Type 094 (also referred to as Type 09-IV, NATO reporting name: Jin class) is the PLA Navy’s second-generation nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarine (SSBN), succeeding the Type 092 (Xia class) SSBN of a single hull commissioned in 1983. The Type 094 was designed by CSIC’s Wuhan 2nd Ship Design Institute (also known as 719 Institute) in Wuhan, Hubei Province and built by CSIC’s Bohai Shipbuilding Heavy Industry Co. Ltd. (previously known as Bohai Shipyard) in Huludao, Liaoning Province.

Programme

The development of the Type 094 began in the late 1980s to early 1990s, reportedly with assistance of the Rubin Central Design Bureau for Marine Engineering in St. Petersburg, one of Russia’s primary nuclear submarine designer.

Construction of the first-of-class began in 1999 and the submarine was launched in July 2004. A second hull was launched possibly in 2007 and may be commissioned in 2010. Both submarine have been undergoing sea trials, with no test launching of the ballistic missile from the submarine reported so far. The initial operational capability of the submarines may not come until 2012~2015.

The U.S. Office of Naval Intelligence (ONI) predicted in December 2006 that the PRC will need to build a total of five Type 094 SSBNs in order to maintain a near-continuous at-sea SSBN presence, with at least one boat available and ready for missile launch at all times.

Satellite images have captured the two Type 094 SSBNs docked at the Bohai Shipyard, and one of the submarines was also spotted inside the PLA Navy’s nuclear submarine base at Xiaopingdao, Liaoning Province. In April 2008, Federation of American Scientists (FAS) website revealed that a Type 094 SSBN has been deployed to a newly-built nuclear submarine base near the city of Sanyang in Hainan Island [1].

Design


Type 094 SSBN (Chinese Internet)


The Type 094 SSBN bears many similarities with the Type 093 Shang class nuclear-powered attack submarine (SSN), suggesting that the two submarines share the same design baseline. The submarine features a water-drop shape hull, with a pair of fin-mounted hydroplanes and four diving planes.

The dive displacement of the submarine was estimated to be 8,000~9,000 tonnes. The Type 094 has yet approached the performance and capability of modern Russian and Western SSBN designs, especially in quietness and missile number. However, once fully operational, it will offer the PLA Navy with a much more credible sea-based nuclear retaliation capability than that offered by its predecessor Type 092 Xia class.

Missiles

The Type 094 has the capacity to carry 12 submarine-launched ballistic missiles (SLBM). The JuLang 2 SLBM designed and developed by CASIC 4th Academy is a three-stage, solid-propellant strategic ballistic missile. It is a derivation of the land-based DongFeng 31 (DF-31) intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM). The maximum range of the JuLang 2 was estimated to be 7,000~8,000km, three times that of the first-generation JuLang 1 SLBM used by the Type 092.

Each JuLang 2 can carry a single thermalnuclear warhead of 25~1,000kt yield. Alternatively, the missile was said to be able to carry three or more 90kT multiple independently targetable re-entry vehicles (MIRV), though this cannot be confirmed.

Torpedoes

The submarine has six 533mm bow torpedo tubes, and carries a total of 12 Yu-3 (SET-65E) torpedoes, which is equipped with both active and passive homing. The torpedo, with a 205kg warhead, has a maximum range of 15km and a top speed of 40kt. Alternatively, the submarine may carry wake-homing anti-surface torpedoes or wire-homing anti-submarine torpedoes.

Sensors

The submarine is fitted with sophisticated sonar systems, including bow-mounted sonar and H/SQC-207 flank-mounted sonar. Three flank-mounted sonar arrays are clearly visible on the hull of the submarine.

Propulsion

The submarine’s propulsion system is believed to be nuclear, turbo-electric arrangement, consisting of one pressurised water reactor (PWR), with one shaft.

Shiplist

No. Name Shipyard Fleet Launch IOC
? ? Bohai North Sea 2004 ?
? ? Bohai South Sea? 2007 ?

Specifications

Displacement: (Dived) 8,000~9,000t
Missile: 12 X JL-2 SLBM

Type 093 (Shang Class) Nuclear-Powered Attack Submarine

The Type 093 (or 09-III, NATO reporting name: Shang class) is the PLA Navy’s second-generation nuclear-powered attack submarine (SSN), introduced to replace the existing force of five Type 091 (Han class) SSNs. The submarine was designed by the Wuhan 2nd Ship Design institute (also known as 719 Institute) in Wuhan, Hubei province and built by Bohai Shipbuilding Heavy Industry Co. Ltd. (previously Bohai Shipyard) in Huludao, Liaoning Province. So far two boats have reportedly been launched.

Programme

The PRC began to develop its second-generation nuclear submarines in the mid-1980s, but little progress was made before the mid-1990s. It was widely speculated that Rubin Central Design Bureau for Marine Engineering in St. Petersburg, one of main Russian centres of submarine design, has been assisting the PRC in developing its new generation nuclear submarines. Exactly how much help China has received from Rubin Design Bureau is unknown, but it could potentially include a range of critical assistance, including overall hull design, engine and machinery quieting, combat system design, and weapon system and countermeasures outfit.

Construction of the Type 093 began in 1995~96 at the Bohai Shipyard under tight security and high secrecy. The first-of-class submarine was launched in December 2002. After a sea trial that lasted for four years, the submarine was finally commissioned by the PLA Navy North Sea Fleet in December 2006. A second hull was launched in late 2003 and possibly commissioned in 2007. The existence of the submarine project was first reported by the Pentagon in 2003. The U.S. Navy intelligence and Pentagon predicted that the PLA Navy could have 3~4 submarines by 2010, while other sources suggested that eventual production could reach 6~8 boats.

During the exhibition at Beijing’s Military Museum of Chinese People’s Revolution in late July to mark the 80th anniversary of the People’s Liberation Army (PLA), a scale model and some hazy photos of the Type 093 SSN were presented to the public. Later, Beijing-based Modern Ships magazine published in its August issue the first clear photo of the long-anticipated submarine.

Design

The Type 093 is estimated to be 6.000~7,000t displacement when dived. As revealed by the submarine model and Modern Ships photograph, the submarine features a water-drop shape hull, with a pair of fin-mounted hydroplanes and four diving planes. The submarine is fitted with sophisticated sonar systems, including bow-mounted sonar and H/SQC-207 flank-mounted sonar. Three flank-mounted sonar arrays are clearly visible on the hull of the submarine.

The Type 093 submarine has six 533mm bow torpedo tubes (4 above, 2 below), and is presumed to be equipped with a range of anti-submarine and anti-surface vessel torpedoes of wire-, acoustic- and wake-homing, based on both Chinese and Russian designs. The torpedo tubes can also be used to launch Chinese indigenous YJ-82 anti-ship missiles. Some reports suggested the capability of launching land-attack cruise missiles (LACM), but this cannot be confirmed.

Despite the previous rumour that the Type 093 was based on the design of the Russian Victor III class nuclear attack submarine, it appears that the two submarines bear no resemblance in appearance. However, it cannot be ruled out that Russian technologies were being incorporated into the Type 093’s design.

The Type 093 is thought to be approaching the early variants of the U.S. Navy 688 (Los Angeles) class SSN in terms of capability and noise level, but still inferior to the more advanced Seawolf and Virginia class. Nevertheless, this class of nuclear submarine represents a major step forward in PRC’s underwater warfare capability. Once fully operational, it could pose serious threat to the navies of China’s neighbouring countries and further complicate the anti-submarine challenge facing the U.S. Navy.

Shiplist

No. Name Shipyard Fleet Launch IOC Type
? ? Bohai North Sea 2002 Dec 2006 Type 093 Shang Class
? ? Bohai North Sea ? ? Type 093 Shang Class

Specifications

Displacement: (Dived) 6,000~7,000t
Torpedo Tubes: 6 X 533mm

Last update: 4 April 2009

Brother, since the informations were too munch to load on the forum

You can read directly from the link i provided.

pretty impressive number by most standard. However, the one submarine that US navy is seriously concerning about is the Yuan class with AIP. Its also very quiet. How long can the Yuan class stay underneath the water without refueling?

 

[faithfulguy]

U.S spy just stealed some design papers of 094 from wuhan 719 last year.... they not just concern yuan ,093/094 095/096 are all their missions

But only Yuan is quietly enough to pose a threat to the US. Its also AIP so it can track a carrier task force like a nuclear sub. I heard that Yuan is as quiet as a Lada class sub. Is that true?

 

[aimarraul]

But only Yuan is quietly enough to pose a threat to the US.

do not be over-confident about that，PLA is upgrading equipments at an unprecedented rate . we spend most money on R&D,as 093/094, 052,054 upgrade a lot in recent years ，none of these series with large-scale mass production.china is accumulating the technology ,not the number. U.S took those paper too seriously

 

[faithfulguy]

do not be over-confident about that，PLA is upgrading equipments at an unprecedented rate . we spend most money on R&D,as 093/094, 052,054 upgrade a lot in recent years ，none of these series with large-scale mass production.china is accumulating the technology ,not the number. U.S took those paper too seriously

Yes, but the nuclear subs are still very loud, as I heard. A song class sub was able to pop into a carrier task force. Cause the US to focus more on anti-sub defence.