China’s state rocket company unveils rendering of a [SpaceX] Starship look-alike

[Mk-313]

Americans are just white-skinned Indians, both are shameless low IQ braggarts.

which makes me question how low does your IQ have to be to use the internet we invented, write your post in the language we speak So that the website can monetize your nonsense using google AdWords the company created by US

you’re setting the bar pretty low for yourself

 

[Beidou2020]

There is a limit. If not, why US need to restrict CVN only to 10. US space shuttle cancel. Many old Tico destroyer awaiting to be replaced cannot retired becos no budget for new ships.

There is a limit to printing money. US Federal knows that. They are now under a lot more pressure to keep everything in budget. The Chinese yuan will only further aggregate the situation for US.

One of the reasons US don’t apply financial sanctions to China like they do to Iran is because China absorbs a lot of the dollars floating around the world. If China don’t absorb it, someone else will have to do it. Or US domestic inflation will be going up significantly.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

US will not have unlimited funds forever. Sooner or later, risk assessment need to take into consideration rather than reckless and blind tried or foolish attempt of any innovation.

Excuses...excuses...excuses

 

[Beast]

Excuses...excuses...excuses

Excuse? Why used SpaceX? Becos they save money and promise cheap and better manned mission.

Why not continued build space shuttle since it so innovative according to you.

 

[Beast]

Excuses...excuses...excuses

Excuse? Why used SpaceX? Becos they save money and promise cheap and better manned mission.

Why not continued build space shuttle since it so innovative according to you.

 

[F-22Raptor]

One of the reasons US don’t apply financial sanctions to China like they do to Iran is because China absorbs a lot of the dollars floating around the world. If China don’t absorb it, someone else will have to do it. Or US domestic inflation will be going up significantly.

Only a year ago you were on this forum claiming the US economy was collapsing. Now the USs economy is booming and will actually exceed its pre pandemic forecasts soon than expected.

Your predictions are worthless.

 

[mike2000 is back]

There is no "we" in any of SpaceX's achievements. The SpaceX engineers get all the credit. You and the 18-20 million Americans STILL receiving unemployment benefits (now over a year into the pandemic) have never innovated ANYTHING from your trailer park.


What is there to follow?

Starship SN8: exploded on landing.
Starship SN9: exploded on landing.
Starship SN10: hard landing, exploded eight minutes after landing.
Starship SN11: explodes in mid-air, debris falls from the sky.
Starship SN15: will launch maybe tomorrow.

Four Tries, four Failures. Shouldn't China at least wait for a successful landing before they start copying?

Here's a hypothetical. When the dust finally settles in 10 years, and China ends up with a fully commercialized Starship (along with possibly TSTO and SSTO spaceplanes), and SpaceX continues to struggle with a spotty launch record, would China still be copying? Or would China be ahead?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1386956794409353217

That's a wrong way of looking at things. You will never be ahead of others if you don't take the risk to do things first or innovate , you will always be followers if you are afraid of failures.
There is no sucessful businessman or company today who hasn't has his fair share of failure. The only people that dot fail is those that never even tried in the first place. So bringing up space X starships launch failures to disprove the company is wrong. Afterall try are doing something revolutionary that nobody has ever done before in history of mankind, i. Fact something many thought was impossible. I'm sure it won't be long before they get it right, and when they does everybody will be talking about their success not knowing or focusing about all the failures and struggles they had to make his work. In fact Space X falcon 9 reusable rocket also failed a few times in the beginning when they started, many people where writing them off, but look at what they have achieved with that? Something no country has been able to pull up even till today with their reusable rocket. In fact China itself is now trying to follow their lead but is still some distance away from achieving that. The success of space X and the speed at which they are moving ahead is silly mind-blowing and it's something we should all give them the respect they deserve, especially for a private company, what they have achieved and are doing is simply incredible.

 

[gangsta_rap]

LOL! Spare us your racism crocodile tears.
Look who writes "white supremacy...white supremacy..white supremacy" all the time
Search results for query: white supremacy
If anybody should get the absolute hate moniker on PDF it is you.

Typical white american behavior. No notion of responsibility over the huuuuge social issues that keep plaguing american society

white society and WHITE PRIVILEGE is a problem

the sooner white americans realize this the better. But if they won't bother then who can they blame for the consequences?

 

[F-22Raptor]

There is no "we" in any of SpaceX's achievements. The SpaceX engineers get all the credit. You and the 18-20 million Americans STILL receiving unemployment benefits (now over a year into the pandemic) have never innovated ANYTHING from your trailer park.


What is there to follow?

Starship SN8: exploded on landing.
Starship SN9: exploded on landing.
Starship SN10: hard landing, exploded eight minutes after landing.
Starship SN11: explodes in mid-air, debris falls from the sky.
Starship SN15: will launch maybe tomorrow.

Four Tries, four Failures. Shouldn't China at least wait for a successful landing before they start copying?

Here's a hypothetical. When the dust finally settles in 10 years, and China ends up with a fully commercialized Starship (along with possibly TSTO and SSTO spaceplanes), and SpaceX continues to struggle with a spotty launch record, would China still be copying? Or would China be ahead?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1386956794409353217

https://twitter.com/x/status/1390072622671609859

SN15 successfully soft landed, on Starships 5th attempt. Orbital launch is not far away now.

China is being left in the dust.

 

[j20blackdragon]

CZ-9 2021 edition (“21 版”).

https://twitter.com/x/status/1407943832541417475

 

[j20blackdragon]

CZ-9 2021 edition (“21 版”).

https://twitter.com/x/status/1407943832541417475

For those that still don't understand the significance of the CZ-9 redesign. Allow me to direct your attention to the 16 YF135 engines that now power the first stage. The original strap-on boosters have been completely eliminated. Does this new engine cluster arrangement remind you of anything?

"It’s better to use a large number of small engines," Musk said.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

CZ-9 2021 edition (“21 版”).

https://twitter.com/x/status/1407943832541417475

LOL! Yes they have switched to a 16 engine design! That's not what it originally looked like when your engineers proudly announced it years ago

So the original supa-dupa strap on boosters "bigger than the Space Shuttle's" envisioned/researched by your best rocket engineering minds has been ditched.

You can thank SpaceX for that.

 

[Beast]

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LOL! Yes they have switched to a 16 engine design! That's not what it originally looked like when your engineers proudly announced it years ago

So the original supa-dupa strap on boosters "bigger than the Space Shuttle's" envisioned by your best rocket engineering minds has been ditched.

You can thank SpaceX for that.

Design is useless when u cannot mass production and keep it affordable. The famous white elephant US space shuttle is a great example.

Tell me why NASA abandon it? Isn't it innovate and brilliant according to US space fanboy?

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Design is useless when u cannot mass production and keep it affordable. The famous white elephant US space shuttle is a great example.

Tell me why NASA abandon it? Isn't it innovate and brilliant according to US space fanboy?

Hey how many years of time/resources has been completely wasted on that CZ-9 booster design? What year was that announced?

The Chinese here complain about SpaceX Starship waste and you just threw years of effort into the dumpster to follow SpaceX's core philosophy.

 

[Beast]

Hey how many years of time/resources has been completely wasted on that CZ-9 booster design?

The Chinese here complain about SpaceX Starship waste and you just dumped years of effort in the dumpster to follow SpaceX's core philosophy.

When did they CNSA say they dump the 2011 version of LM9?

CNSA wouldn't abandon the 2011 version since the YF-130 engine has already successfully tested and ready for mass production. The 2021 version will need the new YF-135 engine. They are going for 2 version of LM9

While Chinese didn't waste time like US space shuttle which is a total failure concept.