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China's plan to build 4 subs for Pak is a ploy to tie the Indian Navy in the Arabian Sea

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Over the years, China has helped Pakistan enhance its military and nuclear capabilities with the objective of keeping India engaged and focused on threats emanating from Pakistan.
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Over the years, China has helped Pakistan enhance its military and nuclear capabilities with the objective of keeping India engaged and focused on threats emanating from Pakistan.

According to recent reports, Beijing will be delivering eight Yuan-class submarine to Pakistan. Four of those will be built in Karachi. As a result, the Indian Navy's depleted submarine fleet and anti-submarine warfare assets will be further tied down in the Arabian Sea as New Delhi tries to modernize its Navy to be able to check Beijing's growing penetration of the Indian Ocean Region.

A steady and regular sighting of Chinese submarines in ports surrounding India over the last few years has created a cause for concern in New Delhi.

Chinese exercises with Pakistan aside, Beijing has held exercises with Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Nepal at regular intervals in the recent past. China was also Pakistan's biggest arms supplier between 2010 and 2014, accounting for 51% of Pakistani weapons imports.

It was also the source of 82 percent of Bangladesh's arms purchases (2009-2013), according to the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute, making Dhaka one of the top three buyers of Chinese weapons in the world. Sri Lanka, too, has been a substantial recipient of Chinese arms, but the conclusion of the civil war in 2009 has reduced this trend.

India's engagement with the region is pale in comparison. There has been little military-to-military engagement with Bangladesh. Engagements with Sri Lanka and Nepal, too, have been limited in scope and sometimes very infrequent.

Not a single naval exercise was held by Sri Lanka and India for six years (2005-2011) and again none since 2013 due to objections emanating from Tamil Nadu. In contrast to the Indian Navy's limited engagements with neighbouring countries, its ships have visited more than 40 countries and conducted numerous exercises in the past one year.

This week's annual Indo-US Malabar naval exercises in the Bay of Bengal has been turned into a trilateral with the inclusion of Japan. However, the reported lack of enthusiasm in increasing the number participating ships and aircraft by the Indian Navy reflects the susceptibility of the Indian establishment to cave in to the prospect of Chinese opposition.

China's core interests in its military engagement with Pakistan and other South Asian countries are to balance its relations with the United States and India. New Delhi urgently needs to proactively shape its security environment. Military engagements with far flung nations across the globe need to be limited in favour of proactive regional engagements that bear strategic and security dividends.

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No sweat.

Who is paying for the subs ? Will they deduct the costs from royalties ?

Such games of Chess will keep Happening. So long as Pak is spending on its defence and not on other social needs it suits India.
 
Indian Ocean region is like an own lake for India, once the radar stations, satellites and Naval assets are inducted.

The Islands in the ocean will give an enormous advantage to India once they are developed into cities.
 
Ha, Ha, Ha, 8 (Eight) subs, plus the tittle is Indian made.

Ya.. 8 Chinese.. vs French Scorpene 10 + upgraded Kilo class .. SSN and 12+ Kamorta 12 seahawks and 12+ P8I + all the new 6 Destroyers and 6+ frigates will have a special ASW systems.... PN should pray not to cross any of them
 
Ya.. 8 Chinese.. vs French Scorpene 10 + upgraded Kilo class .. SSN and 12+ Kamorta 12 seahawks and 12+ P8I + all the new 6 Destroyers and 6+ frigates will have a special ASW systems.... PN should pray not to cross any of them

Wow you really have a, very, very teeny tiny -----, Einstein this is not a measuring contest, second news and title are Indians not Pakistani go tell them all this.
 
Wow you really have a, very, very teeny tiny -----, Einstein this is not a measuring contest, second news and title are Indians not Pakistani go tell them all this.

If we've teeny tiny.. then you've none kid.... I don't care who's article was this.. but i can only laugh at the title..
 
patriotism is good thing but ignoring the vital points is bad. Pakistan is getting 8 subs plus 5 subs already operational for a sea that pakistan holds. whilest india's gigantic sea has only around 15 subs and around dozen in papers or in production which is really great but imagine if india has total 27 subs in total it still is going to face issue as it has to protected a very large sea im not saying indian navy is weak all im saying the two fronts that india is facing one pakistan which will have atleast 10 submarines in future for the sea that pakistan has in his control the 10 subs are more than enough.
Ya.. 8 Chinese.. vs French Scorpene 10 + upgraded Kilo class .. SSN and 12+ Kamorta 12 seahawks and 12+ P8I + all the new 6 Destroyers and 6+ frigates will have a special ASW systems.... PN should pray not to cross any of them
 
Ya.. 8 Chinese.. vs French Scorpene 10 + upgraded Kilo class .. SSN and 12+ Kamorta 12 seahawks and 12+ P8I + all the new 6 Destroyers and 6+ frigates will have a special ASW systems.... PN should pray not to cross any of them
And have to defend 7,516.6 km long coastline with self destructive submarine and radars who cant detect even any visiting submarines. while presence of Chinese navy in Bangladesh, Myanmar , Srilanka , Maldives and Pakistan . IN should pray not to mess with any one .
 
patriotism is good thing but ignoring the vital points is bad. Pakistan is getting 8 subs plus 5 subs already operational for a sea that pakistan holds. whilest india's gigantic sea has only around 15 subs and around dozen in papers or in production which is really great but imagine if india has total 27 subs in total it still is going to face issue as it has to protected a very large sea im not saying indian navy is weak all im saying the two fronts that india is facing one pakistan which will have atleast 10 submarines in future for the sea that pakistan has in his control the 10 subs are more than enough.

I know for our coast current 13 subs are not enough.. that's why Scorpene number inceased to 10 from 6... with next Gen Sub which will be selected by next year and the number will be 6+ and 2 SSN from Russia, 6+ Indian SSN which are being developed.. not to mention the Arihant class SSBN.. Since Pakistan is adding 8 subs we've increaded the numbers of Kamorta to 12 + 12 S-70B and the P8I number will be forthe increased from 12... half of this are more than enough to counter anything that PN will throw.

dude.. subs are not only the ship that protects the coast!!! Why do you think We're heavily investing in ICG and OPV's for Navy??? The IN's western fleet is still a nightmare for PN... Are you pointing out 2 front naval war?? if that happens pray if Chinese units can cross over Allied ships and cross Straight of Malaka and the A&N first..
 
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