China's Picturesque Tibet Autonomous Region: News & Images
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That day will come, we just need to fix one thing at the time.
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Without South Tibet China will never be complete.
The hegemonic southern empire has only become more hegemonic and agressive.
China has tried for decades to solve this occupation through peaceful means.
China should have shown Virtue and reunited the South Tibet wiht the Chinese people in '62.
Sadly the South Tibet is the living example of the Great Game played by the imperial powers of that time.
Their goal was to break up the Chinese state.
After they left they created an artificial state to counter China and left in its possession not only Tibet but other territories of China.
These troublemakers are still propping up this hegmonic southern empire to creat trouble for China.
But China will renunite not only South Tibet but also all of Chinese lost territories.
We must excercise patience.
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once Tibet is developed, South Tibet people will see how develop their northern brethren are so they will revolt against Hindu government and will want to revert back to PRC.
Right now S. Tibetans are not doing too well. There are a lot of raping by Indian soldiers on the general populace and yes, people there do not even have the basic necessities.
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Yes, it is a tragic sight. Sad state of affairs.
It is not our South Tibetan brothers and sisters that accept the indian occupation but the bought out leaders from South Tibet who parrot the southen empire's evil prapoganda.
Do you think that our brothers and sister will stay a single day under indian occupation if they had a choice or free leaders.
We must have patience and try to convince the indian empire to solve this through peaceful dialouge.
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No need to convince. Provide arms to the resistance or do what the west does--hire mercenaries to do some dirty work.
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@Jlaw from a certain perspective that might be a solution.
But do we want to see our people to be slaughtered and raped by the indians.
Have you not seen what they have been doing for decades in Kashmir?
This is the reason that the Chinese government has always tried to peacefully solve this imperial occupation.
Besides China has a policy of non intereference.
We can think it to be good or weak. But it is a policy.
indian can beat their chests and keep on living in their dark idealogoy of exanding their empire...
But should one day China decides that enough is enough... then will see indian running like headless chickens in every direction. Trying to keep their occupations of north eastern states to all the way to Kashmir.
Patience is Virtue.
First we free our seas, my young brother. Then and only then can we free our lands.
This is the path on the Way.
But do we want to see our people to be slaughtered and raped by the indians.
Have you not seen what they have been doing for decades in Kashmir?
This is the reason that the Chinese government has always tried to peacefully solve this imperial occupation.
Besides China has a policy of non intereference.
We can think it to be good or weak. But it is a policy.
indian can beat their chests and keep on living in their dark idealogoy of exanding their empire...
But should one day China decides that enough is enough... then will see indian running like headless chickens in every direction. Trying to keep their occupations of north eastern states to all the way to Kashmir.
Patience is Virtue.
First we free our seas, my young brother. Then and only then can we free our lands.
This is the path on the Way.
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Friend, religious ideology always hamper human in the past and still do so. Kashmir is a different beast altogether. It really comes down to the will of the politician.
There is no peace until might. That has always been the case throughout history.
China can say they have a non interference policy but do they need to actually mean it? US disguise herself as a bastion of freedom and liberty, yet they are the most destructive force right now. And to frankly, I admire the US. China need to learn a lot from the US.
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Friend, religious ideology always hamper human in the past and still do so. Kashmir is a different beast altogether. It really comes down to the will of the politician.
There is no peace until might. That has always been the case throughout history.
China can say they have a non interference policy but do they need to actually mean it? US disguise herself as a bastion of freedom and liberty, yet they are the most destructive force right now. And to frankly, I admire the US. China need to learn a lot from the US.
I agree with you that China needs to learn a lot.
Also from the US, if China wishes to be treated as a Great Power.
Respect is earned never given freely.
South Tibet? You mean Arunachal Pradesh? And what's with the use of term "illegal occupation?" Cant believe a Philipino would say something like that.
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The once notorious road now is a well-paved highway
Xinjiang-Tibet highway, the road on the roof of the world!
Bring inclusive growth to every corner of China
Now, we are building a standard expressway from Golmud to Lhasa!
The final section of the epic Beijing-Lhasa national expressway!
Xinjiang-Tibet highway, the road on the roof of the world!
Bring inclusive growth to every corner of China
Now, we are building a standard expressway from Golmud to Lhasa!
The final section of the epic Beijing-Lhasa national expressway!
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A Writer’s Quest to Unearth the Roots of Tibet’s Unrest.
August 14, 2016
Sinosphere
By LUO SILIN
New York Times
The trouble actually started in the Tibetan regions of nearby Chinese provinces — Yunnan, Sichuan, Qinghai and Gansu, home to about 60 percent of the Tibetan population. When the Chinese Communists forced collectivization on these Tibetan nomads and farmers in the latter half of the 1950s, the results were catastrophic. Riots and rebellions spread like wildfire. The Communists responded with military force, and there were terrible massacres. Refugees streamed into Tibet, bringing their horror stories into Lhasa.
Some of the most frightening reports had to do with the disappearances of Tibetan leaders in Sichuan and Qinghai. It was party policy to try to pre-empt Tibetan rebellion by luring prominent Tibetans from their communities with invitations to banquets, shows or study classes — from which many never returned. People in Lhasa thought the Dalai Lama could be next.
You’ve documented the massacres of Tibetans in the Chinese provinces in the late 1950s.
In 2012, I drove across Qinghai to a remote place an elderly Tibetan refugee in India had told me about: a ravine where a flood one year brought down a torrent of skeletons, clogging the Yellow River. From his description, I identified the location as Drongthil Gully, in the mountains of Tsolho Tibetan Autonomous Prefecture. I had read in Chinese sources about major campaigns against Tibetans in that area in 1958 and 1959. About 10,000 Tibetans — entire families with their livestock — had fled to the hills there to escape the Chinese. At Drongthil Gully, the Chinese deployed six ground regiments, including infantry, cavalry and artillery, and something the Tibetans had never heard of: aircraft with 100-kilogram bombs. The few Tibetans who were armed — the head of a nomad household normally carried a gun to protect his herds — shot back, but they were no match for the Chinese, who recorded that more than 8,000 “rebel bandits” were “annihilated” — killed, wounded or captured — in these campaigns.
I wondered about the skeletons until I saw the place for myself, and then it seemed entirely plausible. The river at the bottom of the ravine there flows into a relatively narrow section of the Yellow River. In desolate areas like this, Chinese troops were known to withdraw after a victory, leaving the ground littered with corpses.
The Tibetans in Sichuan, Yunnan, Gansu and Qinghai were already under nominal Chinese administration when the Communists took over in 1949. How was Tibet annexed?
It was Mao’s goal from the moment he came to power. Tibet “is strategically located,” he said in January 1950, “and we must occupy it and transform it into a people’s democracy.”
He started by sending troops to invade Tibet at Chamdo in October 1950, forcing the Tibetans to sign the 17-Point Agreement for the Peaceful Liberation of Tibet, which ceded Tibetan sovereignty to China. Next, the People’s Liberation Army marched into Lhasa in 1951, at the same time — in disregard of the Chinese promise in the agreement to leave the Tibetan sociopolitical system intact — smuggling an underground Communist Party cell into the city to build a party presence in Tibet.
Meanwhile, Mao was preparing his military and awaiting the right moment to strike. “Our time has come,” he declared in March 1959, seizing on the demonstrations in Lhasa. After conquering the city, China dissolved the Tibetan government and — under the slogan of “simultaneous battle and reform” — imposed the full Communist program throughout Tibet, culminating in the establishment of the Tibet Autonomous Region in 1965.
How did Mao prepare his military for Tibet?
Mao welcomed the campaigns to suppress minority uprisings within China’s borders as practice for war in Tibet. There were new weapons for his troops to master, to say nothing of the unfamiliar challenges of battle on the Qinghai-Tibetan Plateau.
The new weapons included 10 Tupolev TU-4 bombers, which Stalin gave Mao in 1953. Mao tested them in airstrikes at three Tibetan monasteries in Sichuan, starting with Jamchen Choekhor Ling, in Lithang. On March 29, 1956, while thousands of Chinese troops fought Tibetans at the monastery, two of the new planes were deployed. The Tibetans saw giant “birds” approach and drop some strange objects, but they had no word for airplane, or for bomb. According to Chinese records, more than 2,000 Tibetans were “annihilated” in the battle, including civilians who had sought refuge in the monastery.
Mao used his most seasoned troops in Tibet. Gen. Ding Sheng and his 54th Army, veterans of the Korean War, had gained experience suppressing minority uprisings in Qinghai and Gansu in 1958 before heading to Tibet in 1959.
How often was the Chinese military used against Tibetans, and how many Tibetan casualties were there?
We don’t have an exact tally of military encounters, since many went unrecorded. My best estimate based on official Chinese materials — public and classified — is about 15,000 in all Tibetan regions between 1956 and 1962.
Precise casualty figures are hard to come by, but according to a classified Chinese military document I found in a Hong Kong library, more than 456,000 Tibetans were “annihilated” from 1956 to 1962.
SOURCE
: httpwwwnytimescom/2016/08/15/world/asia/china-tibet-lhasa-jianglin-li.html?_r=0&referer=
August 14, 2016
Sinosphere
By LUO SILIN
New York Times
The trouble actually started in the Tibetan regions of nearby Chinese provinces — Yunnan, Sichuan, Qinghai and Gansu, home to about 60 percent of the Tibetan population. When the Chinese Communists forced collectivization on these Tibetan nomads and farmers in the latter half of the 1950s, the results were catastrophic. Riots and rebellions spread like wildfire. The Communists responded with military force, and there were terrible massacres. Refugees streamed into Tibet, bringing their horror stories into Lhasa.
Some of the most frightening reports had to do with the disappearances of Tibetan leaders in Sichuan and Qinghai. It was party policy to try to pre-empt Tibetan rebellion by luring prominent Tibetans from their communities with invitations to banquets, shows or study classes — from which many never returned. People in Lhasa thought the Dalai Lama could be next.
You’ve documented the massacres of Tibetans in the Chinese provinces in the late 1950s.
In 2012, I drove across Qinghai to a remote place an elderly Tibetan refugee in India had told me about: a ravine where a flood one year brought down a torrent of skeletons, clogging the Yellow River. From his description, I identified the location as Drongthil Gully, in the mountains of Tsolho Tibetan Autonomous Prefecture. I had read in Chinese sources about major campaigns against Tibetans in that area in 1958 and 1959. About 10,000 Tibetans — entire families with their livestock — had fled to the hills there to escape the Chinese. At Drongthil Gully, the Chinese deployed six ground regiments, including infantry, cavalry and artillery, and something the Tibetans had never heard of: aircraft with 100-kilogram bombs. The few Tibetans who were armed — the head of a nomad household normally carried a gun to protect his herds — shot back, but they were no match for the Chinese, who recorded that more than 8,000 “rebel bandits” were “annihilated” — killed, wounded or captured — in these campaigns.
I wondered about the skeletons until I saw the place for myself, and then it seemed entirely plausible. The river at the bottom of the ravine there flows into a relatively narrow section of the Yellow River. In desolate areas like this, Chinese troops were known to withdraw after a victory, leaving the ground littered with corpses.
The Tibetans in Sichuan, Yunnan, Gansu and Qinghai were already under nominal Chinese administration when the Communists took over in 1949. How was Tibet annexed?
It was Mao’s goal from the moment he came to power. Tibet “is strategically located,” he said in January 1950, “and we must occupy it and transform it into a people’s democracy.”
He started by sending troops to invade Tibet at Chamdo in October 1950, forcing the Tibetans to sign the 17-Point Agreement for the Peaceful Liberation of Tibet, which ceded Tibetan sovereignty to China. Next, the People’s Liberation Army marched into Lhasa in 1951, at the same time — in disregard of the Chinese promise in the agreement to leave the Tibetan sociopolitical system intact — smuggling an underground Communist Party cell into the city to build a party presence in Tibet.
Meanwhile, Mao was preparing his military and awaiting the right moment to strike. “Our time has come,” he declared in March 1959, seizing on the demonstrations in Lhasa. After conquering the city, China dissolved the Tibetan government and — under the slogan of “simultaneous battle and reform” — imposed the full Communist program throughout Tibet, culminating in the establishment of the Tibet Autonomous Region in 1965.
How did Mao prepare his military for Tibet?
Mao welcomed the campaigns to suppress minority uprisings within China’s borders as practice for war in Tibet. There were new weapons for his troops to master, to say nothing of the unfamiliar challenges of battle on the Qinghai-Tibetan Plateau.
The new weapons included 10 Tupolev TU-4 bombers, which Stalin gave Mao in 1953. Mao tested them in airstrikes at three Tibetan monasteries in Sichuan, starting with Jamchen Choekhor Ling, in Lithang. On March 29, 1956, while thousands of Chinese troops fought Tibetans at the monastery, two of the new planes were deployed. The Tibetans saw giant “birds” approach and drop some strange objects, but they had no word for airplane, or for bomb. According to Chinese records, more than 2,000 Tibetans were “annihilated” in the battle, including civilians who had sought refuge in the monastery.
Mao used his most seasoned troops in Tibet. Gen. Ding Sheng and his 54th Army, veterans of the Korean War, had gained experience suppressing minority uprisings in Qinghai and Gansu in 1958 before heading to Tibet in 1959.
How often was the Chinese military used against Tibetans, and how many Tibetan casualties were there?
We don’t have an exact tally of military encounters, since many went unrecorded. My best estimate based on official Chinese materials — public and classified — is about 15,000 in all Tibetan regions between 1956 and 1962.
Precise casualty figures are hard to come by, but according to a classified Chinese military document I found in a Hong Kong library, more than 456,000 Tibetans were “annihilated” from 1956 to 1962.
SOURCE
: httpwwwnytimescom/2016/08/15/world/asia/china-tibet-lhasa-jianglin-li.html?_r=0&referer=
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That's less than this:
... and we are just talking about children under 5.
... and we are just talking about children under 5.
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