China's 'nastier Rise' Will Affect Those Cheering America's Decline: South Asian Expert

[Nasr]

better check your facts again.
Negros in the USA have the highest standard of living of any Negro population in the world. If Negros were/are second class citizens then tens of millions of supposed "white" Americans, those dumb fools who freed the slaves, were and are also second or third class citizens. Now, those dumb supposed "white" Americans get to put up with being called racists by the descendants of the very Negro people they freed.
They, and everyone else, should have been thankful that they had good lives. Life is borrowed. Take it all away.

What If Black America Were a Country?

The statistics reveal a fragile state within a superpower.

www.theatlantic.com

Compare the wealth of Black Africans in America, average income $58,985 (according to wikipedia), median income $40,285 (2018 US census) to African Blacks average income is $315.
Compare the crime rates.

https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/visualizations/2018/demo/p60-263/figure1.pdf

Household income in the United States - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

At least Africans in the Caribbean, in Africa and other places aren't treated like second class citizens. You could make all the money you want, but if your ethnic group has the highest rate of incarceration in the country. Then that ain't a place where goes to put down roots. Wait ... Africans never went to america on their own accord, they were forced to go there as slaves of the wretched british empire and the french.

Idiots living in a Disney Land fantasy world

 

[KurtisBrian]

At least Africans in the Caribbean, in Africa and other places aren't treated like second class citizens. You could make all the money you want, but if your ethnic group has the highest rate of incarceration in the country. Then that ain't a place where goes to put down roots. Wait ... Africans never went to america on their own accord, they were forced to go there as slaves of the wretched british empire and the french.

Idiots living in a Disney Land fantasy world

African Americans have the same rights as anybody else. Stop spewing lies.

 

[Nasr]

African Americans have the same rights as anybody else. Stop spewing lies.

U.S. incarceration rates by race

Graph of racial disparities in U.S. incarceration rates as of the 2010 Census.

www.prisonpolicy.org

African Americans are incarcerated five times more than white americans.

Black Americans incarcerated five times more than white people – report

Data analyzes racial disparities in state prison population asOklahoma and New Jersey among states where disparity is 10 times or more

www.theguardian.com

America has locked up so many black people it has warped our sense of reality

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/02/26/america-has-locked-up-so-many-black-people-it-has-warped-our-sense-of-reality/

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read it and then shut your trap, yuppie boy!!

 

[KurtisBrian]

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U.S. incarceration rates by race

Graph of racial disparities in U.S. incarceration rates as of the 2010 Census.

www.prisonpolicy.org

African Americans are incarcerated five times more than white americans.

Black Americans incarcerated five times more than white people – report

Data analyzes racial disparities in state prison population asOklahoma and New Jersey among states where disparity is 10 times or more

www.theguardian.com

America has locked up so many black people it has warped our sense of reality

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/02/26/america-has-locked-up-so-many-black-people-it-has-warped-our-sense-of-reality/

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read it and then shut your trap, yuppie boy!!

I will explain what you just showed us.
First, look at crime rates in Africa or where there are large Black/African populations. see attachment..pages 9, 11, 23, 25, 28, 29.... PAGE 32 is good too because it shows crime is committed by a small percentage of people. Just as in the US only a small percentage are in jail.
So there is MUCH HIGHER CRIME among places with blacks (it is NOT all blacks only a fraction who cannot handle being black, most are fine and thus are not in jail, have good/great incomes and the same rights as most others). Are Blacks/Africans second class citizens in their own high crime rate African and the Caribbean countries? No.

Wealth and Income: When an additional 3-5% of people, beyond the normal poor, have zero reported income and wealth that will really lower median and average wealth.

America has a strong police force. Commit a crime and unless you are really smart you are going to get caught.

https://www.unodc.org/documents/data-and-analysis/Crime-statistics/International_Statistics_on_Crime_and_Justice.pdf

 

[Beidou2020]

If India is just 10 years behind China due to opening up later why is India's economy smaller than China's 10 years ago?

Why are India's health indicators worse than China's during the 1970s?

Why does India have no leading brands like Huawei, ZTE, Baidu, Alibaba and Tencent?

China's first commercial semiconductor fab was SMIC, founded in 2000. Where's India's commercial fab?

Chinese companies have designed multiple leading edge processors like the Kirin series. Where's a single Indian processor? Not leading edge... Just... Even a university project?

India is behind even North Korea in literacy and aerospace engineering. North Korea has far higher literacy than India and a much further ranged ICBM (Hwasong 15) than Agni 5.

India has a lower GDP per capita than even Nigeria.

For India to even think about catching up with China it has to first catch up with Nigeria and North Korea.

China supercomputers: 226
India supercomputers: 2

China gold/total 2016 Olympic medals: 26/70
India gold/total 2016 Olympic medals: 0/2

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

China supercomputers: 226
India supercomputers: 2

China gold/total 2016 Olympic medals: 26/70
India gold/total 2016 Olympic medals: 0/2

India is still a colonial state. The British have simply been replaced by a homegrown, though no less psychotic elite.

The purpose of this elite is not to develop India but to enrich themselves. Hence why Swiss Bank and India are connected terms.

The potential of an entire continent wasted.

 

[52051]

USA has allies - Europe, Canada, Australia who gain nothing in an alliance with China. There might be temporary economic benefits. Politically or demographically there is nothing to be gained. China has no real friends. We won't even bring in Japan, South Korea, India, Saudis, Latin America

So what, first of all, US doesn't has any friends in America either, saving for probably Canada (I am not even sure about that one).

And friend or not, China is the largest trading partner for most of the countries in the this world, including EU, so your so-called "alliance" doesn't matter in economic sense/peace time, you could barely form an economy alliance against China among your anglo-five, let along the entire EU, we all know the Anglo has a bad name in EU, you would not be surprised if they could just sit there comfortably watching when China is beating you.

As for a military aspect, I don't think the countries you mentioned matter much, do you? if there were a war between you and us, do you honestly believe where these small countries side with can change the outcome of the war?

For instance, if China were decisively defeated in a war with you, then no "friends" of China can change the outcome, if you are defeated by China, no "friends" of you can save the day either, if you can defeat Nazi Germany you can certainly defeat Nazi's alliances in South America if you want.

The only country that have something to offer is Russia, and that's because ATM China don't have sufficient nuclear delivery vehicles that can reach US, but things can change very fast in China.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

.I didn't know racism

Mike, don't play that PC card with me here. I am a man in his late 50s and have seen all. In UK "Pak*" are the most vilified demographic by far. Anything goes wrong blame it on Pak*s. Blacks are friggin treated as nobility in comparison to us. Media, general society scapegoat everything on the "Muslim" or the synonym for Muslim "Pak*". Can you imagine if we had desecrated the Churchill statue or run rampant in the country? People would be asking for concentration camps for us and the media would openly support such hatred. The Blacks though are a special minority.

Negros in the USA have the highest standard of living of any Negro population in the world. If Negros were/are second class citizens then tens of millions of supposed "white" Americans, those dumb fools who freed the slaves, were and are also second or third class citizens. Now, those dumb supposed "white" Americans get to put up with being called racists by the descendants of the very Negro people they freed.

I know that but it does not change the fact that I alluded to. You have just confirmed what I said. You have a 'Negro problem' which is going to weaken you from inside. Most empires got eaten away from inside. Keep that in mind next time you drive past a "hood" where your tax money goes to replicate them and then to tame them. Boy you gots a big problem !

 

[KurtisBrian]

Boy you gots a big problem !

I like what is happening.

 

[nahtanbob]

In the long run, India would be better off resolving its border disputes with Pakistan and China, and focusing on its economic growth, before the demographic dividend window closes. China was more than willing to invest in India before 2019 changes to the status of Ladakh forced them to act. An Independent Kashmir would take the burden off of India to spend so heavily on defense expenditures when the ultimate goal is greater regional influence and better global connectivity. Germany has peacefully achieved through the EU what Nazi Germany could not through its military means; strong German influence in European affairs and global connectivity allowing them stable markets for export.

More likely outcome is that China and India reach an understanding. China dumps Pakistan as far as Kashmir goes and moves on. It must sound familiar - USA, Saudi Arabia have done it to you in the past

 

[Feng Leng]

More likely outcome is that China and India reach an understanding. China dumps Pakistan as far as Kashmir goes and moves on. It must sound familiar - USA, Saudi Arabia have done it to you in the past

China is the instrument of divine justice. Certain groups have committed so much evil that they must be purged from the Earth. The Americans (and other colonial Anglos) built their country on the corpses of Native Indians / indigenous people. They are marked for purging. Indians allow modern slavery in the form of the caste system. They must be purged from the Earth too.

How will China achieve divine justice of eliminating these two groups?

First, we take over Taiwan and break through the first island chain.

Second, we encircle Japan with our navy and support local forces who want to kick out American presence. We already did this in Korea -- the Korean government is simply waiting for the right opportunity to rid itself of foreign occupiers.

Third, we project our power to Australia and coerce Australia into ceding territory to China until only a small rump state remains.

Fourth, we support a powerful Venezuela that rebuilds Greater Colombia in the North of the South American continent. We also support a Greater Mexico and deploy PLA to the Mexico-US border.

Once the first step (take over Taiwan) has happened, the US economy will go into a tailspin. Irreconcilable political differences will pull the red states and blue states in different directions. The different branches of the US military will support different factions.

Once the Second American Civil War begins, PLA deployed in Mexico will support the side most amenable to PLA troops in California, Oregon and Washington State. Eventually, the whole US West coast will be under Chinese rule and new countries will form after the Second American Civil War ends.

As for India, we will dissect them into many smaller countries like Tamil, Decca and Assam. The most dangerous Hindu speaking northern regions will be ruled in a harsh and unforgiving manner by our ally Greater Pakistan.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

More likely outcome is that China and India reach an understanding. China dumps Pakistan as far as Kashmir goes and moves on. It must sound familiar - USA, Saudi Arabia have done it to you in the past

India is not anywhere near strong enough to compel China to agree on anything.

 

[nahtanbob]

China is the instrument of divine justice. Certain groups have committed so much evil that they must be purged from the Earth. The Americans (and other colonial Anglos) built their country on the corpses of Native Indians / indigenous people. They are marked for purging. Indians allow modern slavery in the form of the caste system. They must be purged from the Earth too.

How will China achieve divine justice of eliminating these two groups?

First, we take over Taiwan and break through the first island chain.

Second, we encircle Japan with our navy and support local forces who want to kick out American presence. We already did this in Korea -- the Korean government is simply waiting for the right opportunity to rid itself of foreign occupiers.

Third, we project our power to Australia and coerce Australia into ceding territory to China until only a small rump state remains.

Fourth, we support a powerful Venezuela that rebuilds Greater Colombia in the North of the South American continent. We also support a Greater Mexico and deploy PLA to the Mexico-US border.

Once the first step (take over Taiwan) has happened, the US economy will go into a tailspin. Irreconcilable political differences will pull the red states and blue states in different directions. The different branches of the US military will support different factions.

Once the Second American Civil War begins, PLA deployed in Mexico will support the side most amendable to PLA troops in California, Oregon and Washington State. Eventually, the whole US West coast will be under Chinese rule and new countries will form after the Second American Civil War ends.

As for India, we will dissect them into many smaller countries like Tamil, Decca and Assam. The most dangerous Hindu speaking northern regions will be ruled in a harsh and unforgiving manner by our ally Greater Pakistan.

you forgot to take Siberia from Russia.
err ... then i forget you are scared of Tsar bombas

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

you forgot to take Siberia from Russia.
err ... then i forget you are scared of Tsar bombas

The conservative fantasy of Russia rushing to the aid of the US is funny as hell.

US has sanctions on Russia, reduced its GDP by 50% over 10 years (more than the Nazis), turning Russian pensions into toilet paper in the 90's, taking away 25% of its land and putting NATO in former Soviet republics. The sanctions have been tightened, not loosened.

The US is in fact treating Russia 100x worse than China right now. And you expect this to be forgiven for 10 km2 of land from the 60's?

 

[Indus Pakistan]

I like what is happening.

Why?