China's Mars explorer launched

[ChineseTiger1986]

OMFG!! Shitt! I found out that russian Mars exploration had carry out 19 time since 1960, but 6 of them was launch failure, and 3 of them was exposed or orbit failure. 4 of them was malfunction at the midway to Mars. other 6 was failed when they reach Mars. So there was totally 19 of 19 failure in their Mars exploration history......
It was so dumb to cooperate with russian on Mars mission. I thought it will be all right!

It seems that Martian definitely hates Russia and they are not welcoming it.

 

[gpit]

The level of Russian bashing from Chinese fanboys never ceases to amaze me. While a few fanboys point to Soviet/Russian launch failures they fail to realize that the Soviet Union/Russia has one of the highest success per launch ratio's of any country, not to mention the most launches by any country.

A mission to mars is not easy, China would have experienced the very same things that Russia has. There is a reason that the Yinghuo-1 is hitching a ride on a Russian rocket, obviously the Chinese have confidence.

Some of the Russian bashing equates to high school drop-outs mocking engineers.

But are we allowed to say "Russian Sucks" this time?

 

[SinoChallenger]

Blaming Russia is easy..... but China needs to take a hard look at who approved this program. Did we take a hard look at Russian rocket reliability? When people's money is wasted like this, heads should roll (not literally, just fire them).

 

[Fantasy]

Lets keep our fingers crossed and hope that our Russian partners able to salvage this operation, all is not lost, and i doubt we lost much in this operation, the entire operation was done by the Russian resources i believe, anyone got the estimate on the cost of the Chinese probe? All is not lost, there's still hope for a successful recovery.

 

[Project 627]

They have three days to rescue the probe before its batteries run out.

 

[anon45]

The mission can still be saved, it hasn't failed irreversably failed yet.

I wonder how many red faces there will be if they get it working again after some of the bashing on here

 

[Vassnti]

The mission can still be saved, it hasn't failed irreversably failed yet.

I wonder how many red faces there will be if they get it working again after some of the bashing on here

Expect the trasition from oh its a minor mission its unimportant to IN YOUR FACE USA were on Mars its China's to be rapid

 

[applesauce]

Blaming Russia is easy..... but China needs to take a hard look at who approved this program. Did we take a hard look at Russian rocket reliability? When people's money is wasted like this, heads should roll (not literally, just fire them).

Ukrainian rocket
its actually fairly reliable
seem russia just has a curse with the red planet

 

[HavocHeaven]

It seems that Martian definitely hates Russia and they are not welcoming it.

Mars jinx
poor Russians
But never underestimate them, what they have achieved 40 years ago is still well ahead of any country not named USA.

 

[kawaraj]

Russian tech is already way outdated, no doubt about it. the Aviation is supposed to be the only leftover from SU now, but it failed too. Russia will slowly slip into a second class nation, that's only a time matter.

China need do it alone, or co-operate with the US.

 

[anon45]

It's not looking good, though the outcome hasn't been decided. Only 2 days to fix it or the craft will run out of batteries and potentially fall into earths atmosphere at a later date.

Russia's really been having a sh*t year with such high value high profile failures in such a short time.

 

[gagaga]

no response from the probe after the command was uploaded from the Baikonur ground station, the mission is dead, rest in peace Fobos-Grunt, YH-1 and Russia self-proclaim space superpower status, amen.

 

[SinoChallenger]

no response from the probe after the command was uploaded from the Baikonur ground station, the mission is dead, rest in peace Fobos-Grunt, YH-1 and Russia self-proclaim space superpower status, amen.

Seriously Chinese members, we don't want to stop to the Indian's level by looking at Russian through biased eyes. We are better than that because our success is based on objective measures not dumb self-delusion.

Be objective. They goofed. It happens. Let's hope it doesn't happen again or we wouldn't get involved in these kinds of foreign-dependent projects in the future.

 

[anon45]

Regardless of the outcome, the moral of the story is getting to Mars is difficult.

Hope for smoother/better results from the Curiosity rover in 2 weeks, but even NASA's success rate is 60 ish percent.

 

[gagaga]

errr... not dead yet.

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Russian specialists will try to turn on the main transmitter of Phobos-Grunt, says a specialist from the space industry. Today we have not only the Russians listening for a signal, but also a European base in Australia.

It was announced earlier that Russians will try to contact the spacecraft today in 22:00-23:00 MSK which means it's two hours after posting my comment.

During the first signal received from the probe it was found out that the solar panels have deployed, the spacecraft is Sun-oriented, and the batteries are being recharged. Then the transmitter was about to be turned off according to the on-board program sequence. He was then scheduled to be turned on several times after, but no signal has been received.

The good news is - the transmitter can be turned on if commanded from Earth. This is what specialists are going to do today. They will send commands to turn the transmitter on and they will listen.
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