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New Recruit
Why didn't the Japanese company do these over the past half century?
It looks like they suddenly turn up out of nowhere to compete with China in the international market just in recent years. Moreover,some of our original technologies were bought from them.
New Recruit
Very good analysis!You seem quite familiar to this aspect.The main reason is cost. China is able to build HSR at a cost of $17 million to $21 million per kilometer. In Europe, the range of costs is from about $25 million to $39 million, and the estimated cost in Japan is higher due to the hilly terrain and being earthquake prone.
Japan couldn't make much headway with Shinkansen in the international market because no other country can afford it at the cost required by the Japanese to build.
China is able to build HSR at a more reasonable cost now, it seems many countries are seriously looking into it.
China has published HSR design specification standards covering fundamental, technical and safety requirements in nearly 20 areas. (The potential customer knows what it is getting which helps in the sale.)
China is able to reduce the cost due to these factors:
- China digested foreign technology and then developed its indigenous technology bypassing foreign licensing cost.
- the Chinese HSR network size enable it to take advantage of economies of scale
- high degree of standardization in the build of pylons and viaducts.
- China is just good at project managing massive infrastructure projects.
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Why didn't the Japanese company do these over the past half century?
It looks like they suddenly turn up out of nowhere to compete with China in the international market just in recent years.Moreover,some of our original technologies were bought from them.
Japan couldn't make much headway with Shinkansen in the international market because no other country can afford it at the cost required by the Japanese to build.
I read from somewhere that the Japanese were unhappy because China "stole" Japanese rail technology and exporting it at half-price.
China offer a reasonable cost for a good enough high-speed railway so they win in such these developing countries. By the way, I am glad that people in the world, especially in poor countries, now have a chance to enjoy a modern transportation, their life will be even better than before. Thank you China.I just remembered that Taiwan HSR uses Shinkansen technology. Some political reasons are in play here.
Kawasaki of Japan threatened to sue but it was withdrawn. You cannot sue someone whose technology is now better than yours, can you?
Western media no longer harp on this issue any more, but now more on praising the Chinese HSR network and rightly so.
The facts are:-
- Many new HSR lines were opened last December, I have lost count.
- By the end 2014, it has more than 15,000 km of high-speed rail. UBS’s research reports that “China has the largest high-speed rail network in the world, with a total of more than 20,000+ kilometers [12,400+ miles] high-speed passenger-dedicated lines scheduled to be operational by end-2015.”
- China possesses very comprehensive technology for HSR systems, very cost-competitive, excellent integration capability, experience in all climate conditions/ terrains, the longest operating HSR route, the fastest HSR operating speeds and the largest HSR network.
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Why didn't the Japanese company do these over the past half century?
It looks like they suddenly turn up out of nowhere to compete with China in the international market just in recent years.Moreover,some of our original technologies were bought from them.
Europeans becoming worried that united Chinese companies can eventually put them our of business.Rail merger set for antitrust reviews - Headlines, features, photo and videos from ecns.cn|china|news|chinanews|ecns|cns
Rail merger set for antitrust reviews
2015-01-15 08:27 China Daily Web Editor: Qin Dexing
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Models of CNR Corp Ltd's high-speed trains on display at a railway technology and equipment expo in Beijing. The planned merger of CSR Corp and CNR Corp is subject to antitrust reviews by other governments. [Photo/China Daily]
The merger of China's two biggest rolling stock producers faces intense antitrust scrutiny around the world, analysts said, with the combination of CSR Corp Ltd and CNR Corp Ltd likely to create the globe's largest trainmaker by sales.
The German Federal Cartel Office, for example, said on its website that the agency received a notification of the merger on Jan 5.
The two companies may have submitted pre-merger notifications to more international antitrust agencies and the case may need to be reviewed by more countries as the size of the deal will affect related markets, said analysts. Neither company could be reached for comment.
The merger will create a company with about $31 billion in revenue, which exceeds the three largest Western players' revenues combined, said a Moody's Investors Service Inc report. CNR generated 96.8 billion yuan ($15.4 billion) of revenue in 2013, while CSR reported sales of 96.5 billion yuan.
By comparison, the revenue of Germany-based Siemens AG totaled $9.2 billion in its most recent fiscal year. Canada-based Bombardier Inc reported $8.8 billion of sales and the figure for France-based Alstom's transportation equipment division stood at $7.5 billion.
The two Chinese companies have won contracts for regional and commuter trains in Southeast Asia and other emerging markets in recent years, said Zou Jiming, a Shanghai-based analyst at Moody's.
CNR won a $570 million contract to supply passenger cars to Boston's subway system last year, Chinese manufacturers' first US rolling stock order.
Both companies have yet to win rolling stock contracts in the European market since the region has mature manufacturers and stringent requirements for market entry. Asian players such as Japan-based Hitachi Ltd's Hitachi Rail and South Korea-based Hyundai Motor Co's Hyundai Rotem have been able to gain a slice of the market, according to analysts.
Deng Zhisong, an antitrust attorney with Beijing-based Dacheng Law Office, said that an international merger needs to be studied case-by-case and countries will reach different antitrust conclusions about one transaction.
"Given the size of the transaction, the process might be very time-consuming, but I think the results would be relatively optimistic," said Deng.
For the US and European markets, where the rail and mass transit industries have become highly concentrated, new suppliers like the Chinese companies with cost advantages will be beneficial for full competition.
That is not considered a negative factor by local regulators, so they might also obtain clearance in these markets, said an analyst who declined to be identified due to the sensitivity of the issue.
Huang Yong, deputy head of the expert advisory group of the State Council's Anti-monopoly Committee, said it is difficult to forecast the results of these reviews.
The analytical methods adopted by antitrust agencies are very complex, and they conduct a thorough study of companies' shares in each market segment, such as light rail, subways, high-speed systems, commuter services and locomotives, Huang said.
This case should also be reviewed by China's antitrust agencies, said analysts.
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