China's 'gift' of Z-10 helicopters to Pakistan raises suspicion

[Jf Thunder]

Pakistan do care else it never get furious whenever some news agency not just Indian says Pakistan is hell hole ,Pakistan is world most dangerous country etc etc. Don't know about you anyway.

buying helis makes us the most dangerous country in the world?

 

[Areesh]

Even if they are terrorist they are pakistani so i stand by my point that you bomb your own civilians with foreign " military" aid and "most" of the civilians which had been relocated didn't include poor afghan refugees.And why do pakis whine when IA slaughter Kashmiri insurgents came from your side branded them freedom fighters armed them with money u got from us as aid so who is the hypocrite liars.

Then we shouldn't bomb "our own people". But then some as$ faced of your minister would whine about Pakistan not doing enough to combat terrorism. And then you would troll with his statement on this forum. And we don't bomb terrorists with aid. We bomb them irrespective of aid or not. They are killers of our kids and that is enough for us to kill them.

And "pakis" whine mostly because of your military's history of fake encounters and earning easy money from it. So just cut your hypocrisy and never ever try to hold a higher moral ground in front of us since you don't have it.

 

[Krate M]

My theory is that China does not gift any military hardware to any country, including Pakistan. It is a policy followed by China.
I request a better source than the one posted. Any source of previous military hardware gift by China is welcome as well.
Z10 would be a good addition to Pakistani armed forces.

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

What kind of whacky tobaccy you smoke, i need some of that.

hasheesh mixed with coca and poppy

 

[Cheetah786]

hasheesh mixed with coca and poppy

Dr the level of ignorance @Zarvan displays the recipe you describe is a Go0L GAppa. he is on some strong strong whacky tobbacy.

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

Dr the level of ignorance @Zarvan displays the recipe you describe is a Go0L GAppa. he is on some strong strong whacky tobbacy.

i agree with you most of the time he post nonsense
cheetah bhai i m not a dr though ...i plan to be

 

[Zarvan]

Dr the level of ignorance @Zarvan displays the recipe you describe is a Go0L GAppa. he is on some strong strong whacky tobbacy.

Mr go check your self I was also surprised but this is reality @Dr. Stranglove

 

[HRK]

Thus its called Aid which every developing country gets to spend on projects like infrastructure and polio abolition even your pork eating Chinese brothers gets aid,contrary to the military " aid" which Pakistan gets to airstrike its own civilians who are already suffering from polio.

another trolling attempt plz post the financial figures related to claimed "Military Aid" which Pakistan has received ....

BTW if you don't mind may I ask who many Toilets India has built using this "Development Aid" after all its all about the 'Indian Pride'

It's all about pride.

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India, Ethiopia, Afghanistan, Bangladesh and Nigeria are aid receivers, understandable. Are they top 5 aid receivers from foreign donors? Or just top 5 from UK?

this report exclusively related to UK Development aid

 

[Echo_419]

• Staff Reporter
  
• 2015-01-07

China's Z-10 attack helicopter. (Internet photo)

China's reported decision to present Pakistan three Z-10 attack helicopters as a "gift" this year has raised suspicions of ulterior motives, says Duowei News, a US-based Chinese political news outlet.

Citing unconfirmed Russian media reports, Duowei claims that although Pakistan had shown an interest purchasing the Z-10s, which are designed by Russia's Kamov Design Bureau under contract from Beijing, China decided to give the helicopters to its "closest friend" for free.

The Z-10s, designed primarily for anti-tank missions with secondary air-to-air capabilities, will reportedly be added to the Pakistan Army aviation fleet and be deployed in the ongoing fight against terrorism in the country. The helicopter is said to be capable of targeting the enemy in the air or on the ground with a range of 3-4 kilometers without appearing on radar.

Some military experts have cast doubt on the effectiveness of the Z-10 on counterterrorism operations, saying that its WZ-9 operation engine has relatively low power as well as a smaller payload and weaker defensive capabilities in comparison to other attack helicopters.

Even if the reports of the gift are true, Duowei said, the new Z-10 helicopters will only enhance Pakistan's position against India, which is about to pair its domestically produced light combat helicopters with newly imported AH-64 Apache attack helicopters manufactured by Boeing. Though there is still a sizable gap between the power systems of Z-10s and Apaches, the Chinese aircraft's body design and weapon system configurations are comparable to the world's most advanced attack helicopters, especially because of the excellent performance of its TY-90 air-to-air missiles.

For China, the "gift" to Pakistan could serve as a gift for the givers as well, as it might allow the PLA to see how the Z-10s perform in actual combat situations, providing valuable data for further research and development, Duowei said. China may have already been collecting information on its domestically produced weaponry acquired by Pakistan in recent years, including the MBT-3000 tank, the JF-17 Thunder combat aircraft and the F-22P general purpose frigate. The decision to make the Z-10s a gift instead of selling them could therefore stem from Pakistan's limited defense budget and China's relatively robust arms industry, Duowei added.

China's 'gift' of Z-10 helicopters to Pakistan raises suspicion｜Politics｜News｜WantChinaTimes.com

Wantchinatimes is not a reliable source

 

[Shotgunner51]

There is a difference in asking for AID(Throwing the bowl towards world leader) and pushing the AID via NGO to buy some favours from Indian Govt.

Indian Govt never ask for any aid but Britain pushing it as it does good business want some edge over others.

Oh that's the reason? If that's true then UK must be needing more favors from Ethiopia in 2011, then the crown went back to India in 2012. Following the same logic, UK is in desparate need of favors from your whole league of Afghanistan, Nigeria, India, Congo, Ethiopia. Incredible again.

 

[HRK]

pushing the AID via NGO to buy some favours from Indian Govt.

a sincere advice don't embarrass yourself by participating in a debate which is way over your intellectual standing .... for your kind information No government record AID given to NGOs in her books as Government receipts

Indian Govt never ask for any aid but Britain pushing it as it does good business want some edge over others.

Hai bhai aap ko Bagwan dey rah hai or aap lay raah hai .... what a logic Indian government run by a bunch of some adolescent babies Mother (UK+other donor countries) are feeding the hungry poor little fellow even when it is not needed .....

 

[haviZsultan]

Those copters will come in handy...

 

[Cheetah786]

Yeah,a Nihang(warrier) Sikh used to beat mughals.what is the point?

These are your words not mine.
( i cant recognize your ministers due to the pubic hair on their faces and a towel on their heads)

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

k - assuming this is all accurate

we'd be stupid to say no.....obviously our tecchies will make sure there are no issues as far as flight safety considered - given its a new platform

those harping on about it can be butt-hurt as much as they want, that's what their role is in life. To be butt-hurt.

We gifted land to the Chinese at one point in time. Friends do favours.

 

[Hyperion]

People forget, we gifted a LOT of land and were INSTRUMENTAL in bringing the Chinese out of isolation at one point in time.

True friends do such favors, no shame in accepting favors from those friends.

We gifted land to the Chinese at one point in time. Friends do favours.