China's first self-developed computer with domestically-made CPU and operating system rolls off production line in Guangdong

[beijingwalker]

China's self-developed computer, Tianyue, rolls off the production line in Guangdong. Tianyue is China's first computer with domestically-made CPU and operating system.

 

[kankan326]

Trump should buy one

 

[jamahir]

What does this mean in factual terms ? Does China have a CPU with an entirely new instruction set and an OS written from scratch ( not another Linux distro ) ?

@fitpOsitive

 

[-=virus=-]

specs, benchmarks etc ?

 

[porris]

Good whats will be its price and when will it be launched globally

 

[Kai Liu]

This is like Beidou 20 years ago. Significant development but still a long way to go.
Government offices should be the first users. And can also find a lot of users in the enterprises and the industry.

 

[Ali_Baba]

The specifications and manufacturing volumes indicate it is for specialist use only, and not end consumer use at the outset. The eco-system does not exist for consumer use yet ..

 

[jamahir]

A simple Google search reveals ( Link [1] and Link [2] ) that the CPU is based on the British ARM architecture and the OS to be based on Linux.

No great shakes.

@fitpOsitive

 

[beijingwalker]

A simple Google search reveals ( Link [1] and Link [2] ) that the CPU is based on the British ARM architecture and the OS to be based on Linux.

No great shakes.

@fitpOsitive

From your link, probably it's for military use first

"Tianyue series computers have their own unique advantages.

Tianyue series computers are highly reliable, long-endurance, resistant to heat and humidity, shock resistance, and other outstanding performance, and can adapt to highlands, islands, and other areas. It can meet the needs of data acquisition, image processing, command and control, communication, and positioning in harsh environments such as desert, jungle, etc. It has already been implemented in Heilongjiang (high cold), Hainan (high humidity), Tibet (high altitude), and other areas with unstable power supply.

At present, it has been realized in Heilongjiang (high cold), Hainan (high humidity), Tibet (high altitude), and other areas with an unstable power supply of tens of thousands of people. The deployment and application of China-made computers are able to withstand the harsh environment."

 

[jamahir]

From your link, probably it's for military use first

"Tianyue series computers have their own unique advantages.

Tianyue series computers are highly reliable, long-endurance, resistant to heat and humidity, shock resistance, and other outstanding performance, and can adapt to highlands, islands, and other areas. It can meet the needs of data acquisition, image processing, command and control, communication, and positioning in harsh environments such as desert, jungle, etc. It has already been implemented in Heilongjiang (high cold), Hainan (high humidity), Tibet (high altitude), and other areas with unstable power supply.

At present, it has been realized in Heilongjiang (high cold), Hainan (high humidity), Tibet (high altitude), and other areas with an unstable power supply of tens of thousands of people. The deployment and application of China-made computers are able to withstand the harsh environment."

I agree that the processors and the machines they are fitted-in are produced to be of high-reliability in various things ( environmental parameters, image processing, networking etc ) but my point was it is not fair to say that they are China's self-designed items. They are of foreign design implemented in China. I think you will find my argument reasonable.

 

[beijingwalker]

I agree that the processors and the machines they are fitted-in are produced to be of high-reliability in various things ( environmental parameters, image processing, networking etc ) but my point was it is not fair to say that they are China's self-designed items. They are of foreign design implemented in China. I think you will find my argument reasonable.

All new products were based on some previous technology, as long as you can independantly make them yourself by your own means and resources, they are self developed. The first Chinese air craft carrier and the second one look very similar,but the second one was actually desgined by Chinese engineers.
配置细节披露，硬软件全部实现国产化
此次下线仪式中，官方并未透露天玥配置的更多信息，作为第一台纯国产计算机，这并不是其第一次亮相，早在今年6月，天玥计算机已在重庆成功下线，并披露了具体配置细节，天玥系列计算机的详细信息也可在龙芯官网上获悉。

简单来说，天玥系列计算机共有4种型号和9种产品，分为通用和专用两大类，具体的四种型号包括TR1231、TR1235、TR117*和TR3231。

天玥系列计算机采用国产飞腾FT1500A四核处理器和国产龙芯3A3000四核处理器，飞腾处理器主频为1.5GHz，龙芯处理器主频为1.2GHz到1.5GHz。目前市场上主流桌面CPU的主频在3GHz左右，虽然单纯比较主频并没有太大的意义，但这一数据表明，该款国产计算及在运行速度上还有较大的提升空间。

操作系统方面，天玥系列支持银河麒麟、中标麒麟、深之度、普华等操作系统，。银河麒麟本是我国解放军研制的操作系统，于2010年同民用操作系统中标Linux合并，组成军民两用的国产操作系统中标麒麟。天玥系列计算机可支持中标麒麟操作系统，也就预示着该款计算机民用发展的趋势。

存储方面，内部扩展多路PCI-E插槽，包括1个PCI-E×16、1个PCI-E×8、 1个PCI-E×4扩展插槽，支持2.5寸或3.5寸SATA硬盘扩展，容量不小于500GB，最大支持4TB，内存采用DDR3，最大支持16GB。内部可通过 PCI-E 扩展插槽实现多种功能扩展，同时采用独立显卡及更高配置显卡，可提供 VGA、HDMI、DVI 多种显示接口，具有高速图形图像处理能力，支持高分辨率输出和双屏双通道显示，拥有标准化高速接口，可实现各种架构通用计算机接口的统一化与标准化。

除此之外，在应用软件方面也相对较为完备，支持火狐浏览器；支持奔图、天津光电等国产外设；支持达梦、神通、金仓等多款数据库的部署与应用；支持数科、福昕等版式软件支持中安源、金印等签章软件；支持金山 WPS、永中 OFFICE 等流式软件；支持中安源、金印等签章软件。

国产自研计算机的小里程碑
目前从软件系统以及硬件配置上来看，天玥计算机并不能满足大多数国内个人用户的使用需求，但根据天玥系列产品说明书显示，该系列产品主要应用党政机关办公等领域，可以完全满足党政机关的日常工作处理需求。

此外，虽然天玥系列计算机与当前国际主流计算机也存在着一定的差距，但天玥系列计算机具有非常明显的国产特色，如具备高可靠、长续航、耐湿热、抗冲击等优异性能，可适应高原、岛礁、荒漠、丛林等恶劣环境，满足数据采集、图像处理、指挥控制、通信定位等应用场景需求，目前已实现在黑龙江（高寒）、海南（高湿）、西藏（高海拔），以及其他供电不稳定地区几万台的部署和应用，能够经住受恶劣环境的考验。

纵观我国目前的计算机国产自研程度，华为在推出PC芯片鲲鹏920和鲲鹏PC主板后不久，便发布了搭载国产操作系统中标麒麟和鲲鹏920CPU的计算机“太行220”，支持256GBSSD固态硬盘。此外，惠普也推出了基于兆芯和中标麒麟的台式机。

此次天玥系列计算机可谓是我国自研计算机的一个小里程碑，终究有一天能生产出供大众消费的、具有市场竞争力的计算机。

 

[Beast]

I agree that the processors and the machines they are fitted-in are produced to be of high-reliability in various things ( environmental parameters, image processing, networking etc ) but my point was it is not fair to say that they are China's self-designed items. They are of foreign design implemented in China. I think you will find my argument reasonable.

Its like saying modern physics theory are develop by western and if Chinese used any of those thoery. All Chinese later developed is based on western. What a load of BS!

I agree that the processors and the machines they are fitted-in are produced to be of high-reliability in various things ( environmental parameters, image processing, networking etc ) but my point was it is not fair to say that they are China's self-designed items. They are of foreign design implemented in China. I think you will find my argument reasonable.

Its like saying modern physics theory are develop by western and if Chinese used any of those theory. All Chinese later development is based on western. What a load of BS!

 

[Baz2020]

China making progress while my Pakistani brethren just watching **** online

While I am working my socks off on this OS

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[jamahir]

All new products were based on some previous technology, as long as you can independantly make them yourself by your own means and resources, they are self developed. The first Chinese air craft carrier and the second one look very similar,but the second one was actually desgined by Chinese engineers.

I suppose all aircraft carriers have the same basic elements but what if a new Chinese AC had a rail gun or laser gun of entirely Chinese design or some new type of power generation or a new type of propulsion ?

India and China have many computer science students graduating out of colleges every year. Many of them will be electronics engineers and many will be software. And this has been so for many years now. So from both countries why has been there not a single instance of the two foundational elements of a computer : the CPU and OS ?

Its like saying modern physics theory are develop by western and if Chinese used any of those thoery. All Chinese later developed is based on western. What a load of BS!

Please see above reply.

China making progress while my Pakistani brethren just watching **** online

While I am working my socks off on this OS

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It's been some months since you made the announcement. How is it going ?

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[madlemon50]

I agree that the processors and the machines they are fitted-in are produced to be of high-reliability in various things ( environmental parameters, image processing, networking etc ) but my point was it is not fair to say that they are China's self-designed items. They are of foreign design implemented in China. I think you will find my argument reasonable.

Does that mean you can't say Mahindra made cars are actually made in india because car is actually invented by the west?