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China's dangerous railways: 1,232 people killed in 2014 (down 7.8%)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rail_accidents_(2010–present)

More than 50 :lol:

Look at the amount of US rail accident. Pathetic :lol:

2 killed ) 17 April 2011 – United States – A Burlington Northern Santa Fe Railway train hauling 130-cars of coal from Wyoming to Chicago rear-ends another train hauling maintenance equipment near Red Oak, Iowa about 07.00 (local time) on Sunday 17 April 2011. The lead locomotive on the coal train derails and fire engulfs the cab. The crew of two, the conductor and engineer, on the coal train are killed


5 killed ) 24 June 2011 – United States – Miriam (near Reno), Nevada: Despite the working signals on the track, a semi, driving on a rural stretch of U.S. Route 95 near Reno and Sparks, strikes one of the cars of a west-bound California Zephyr Amtrak passenger train, killing at least six people, according to Nevada Highway Patrol Trooper Dan Lopez and the Churchill County Sheriff's Office (the driver of the semi, whose reason or motivation remains unclear at this time, and an Amtrak conductor on board the train are two confirmed deaths so far).[75]

3 killed ) 24 June 2012 – United States – Three crew members were killed when two Union Pacific trains slammed into each other just east of Goodwell, about 480 kilometres northwest of Oklahoma City. The crash triggered a diesel-fueled fireball that appeared to weld the locomotives together.[130][131]

0 killed on train) 21 August 2012 – United States – Two women celebrating the night before their return to university on a railway bridge die shortly after midnight when a CSX coal train derails on the bridge in downtown Ellicott City, Maryland, burying the women under coal.[140] The NTSB investigation attributed the probable cause of the derailment to a broken rail.[141]

0 killed on train) 15 November 2012 – United StatesMidland train crash – Around 16.30 four people die and 16 others are injured when a Union Pacific train strikes a parade float headed to an event honouring wounded veterans in Midland, Texas.[153][154]

0 killed on train) 26 April 2013 – United States – At a rural Buffalo & Pittsburgh Railroad crossing, in Butler County, Pennsylvania (near Pittsburgh), an Allegheny Valley Railroad freight train carrying asphalt (with 2 locomotives, 29 cars; traveling at the 25 mph limit) strikes an Alliance for Nonprofit Resources Inc. Butler Area Rural Transit Authority bus carrying impaired seniors and younger adults at the Maple Street intersection. It's unclear whether the bus stopped on or before the tracks; the train's brakes are believed to have been applied and the horn to have sounded. Two people are flown by helicopter to area trauma centres–one was in critical condition, and a 91-year-old woman dies later at Allegheny General Hospital. Ten others, including the bus driver, are also hospitalised.[190]

1 killed) 24 October 2013 – United States – One person dies when four freight cars loaded with gravel derail at the SunRail station on State Road 46 in Sanford, Florida.[226]

3 killed) 30 November 2013 – United StatesSouthwestern Railroad (New Mexico) train derails outside Silver City, New Mexico, resulting in the death of the conductor Steven "Steve" Crose, 60, engineer Donald "D.A." White, 38, and ride-along passenger Ann Thompson, 50. The train is leaving a mine operated by Freeport-McMoRan Copper and Gold on a 6% slope when it experiences braking failure. Traveling out of control for miles, the locomotive, which contains all three occupants, eventually leaves the track on a curve completely disconnecting from the eight cars heavily loaded with magnetite and slides into an arroyo (creek). All three occupants of the locomotive are killed immediately on impact and must be extricated from the badly damaged locomotive by emergency responders. The eight freight cars continue on the track a short distance before stopping. It is originally reported that all three occupants are male employees,[230] but a correction later specifies that the female ride-along passenger was not an employee.[231]

4 killed) December 2013 – United StatesDerailment at Spuyten Duyvil, the Bronx, New York City – The engineer of a Metro-North Railroad passenger train from Poughkeepsie to Grand Central Terminal falls asleep with the train at full throttle. It enters a 30 mph (48 km/h) curve just before Spuyten Duyvil station at 82 mph (132 km/h) and derails, killing 4 and injuring 63. It is the first Metro-North accident with passenger fatalities.[232] The engineer's fatigue was caused by severe, undiagnosed sleep apnea in combination with a recent shift change.[233]

2 killed) 17 August 2014 – United States – two Union Pacific locomotives hit head on, in Hoxie, Arkansas, killing two crewmen and injuring two others. Several cars derail, resulting in a fire that causes the evacuation of 500 residents.[285]

5 killed) 3 February – United States – A Metro-North Railroad train strikes one car at a crossing near Valhalla, New York, and catches on fire, killing six people.[298] (one is car driver)

1 killed ) 24 February – United StatesOxnard train derailment: a Metrolink train hits a road vehicle at Oxnard, California.[305] The train engineer dies and 29 others are injured.

0 killed on train) 15 March – United States – A Norfolk Southern freight train crashes into a white Toyota Camry car with 4 passengers in it while it was crossing the tracks at a level crossing in Buechel, Kentucky. 2 people were killed in the crash while 2 were injured and taken to a nearby hospital. The accident was also caught on camera by two railfans.[317][318]

8 killed) 12 May – United StatesAmtrak passenger train Northeast Regional Train 188, en route from Washington, D.C. to New York City and carrying an estimated 238 passengers and five crew, derails and partially rolls over on its side in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, in the Port Richmond neighborhood. Out of the 243 passengers and crew on the train more than 200 are injured in the derailment,[329] with a confirmation of 8 deaths. With the current death toll of 8, as of Thursday, May 14, 2015, this is the U.S.'s deadliest train incident in almost six
years.[330][331]

0 killed on train) 14 November – United States – A freight train collided with a Toyota Camry in North Carolina, killing the two elderly passengers of the vehicle.[358]

2 killed) 3 April – United States2016 Chester, Pennsylvania train derailment: Two people died, and thirty-one suffered injuries, when an Amtrak train collided with a backhoe on the tracks and a car derailed in Chester, near Philadelphia[375]

35 + 25 (from 2008) = 60. You made it. But you have to admit that is still well under China.
 
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Railway deaths in China shrouded in secrecy
Several employees of China Railway Corporation (CRC), which builds the country’s railway networks and manages their commercial operations,
The railway administration announced rules in May that said all companies in the industry
The State Administration of Work Safety
has a database for accidents that

You either insulting people's intelligence or giving China too much credit.

How do you hide this ????:woot::woot::woot:



And oh...

 
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This is in response to the seriously wrong thread which claims only 317 deaths in 20 years.
https://defence.pk/threads/comparative-rail-safety.421443/

Straight from Xinhua itself:
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2015-05/04/c_134209334.htm

"There were fewer accidents and deaths on China's railways in 2014, official statistics showed on Monday, in a boost to industrial expansion both at home and abroad.

Data released by the National Railway Administration (NRA) showed that 1,232 people died in railway accidents in 2014, down 7.8 percent from 2013, according to the Ministry of Transport website.

The NRA attributed the accidents mainly to floods, trespassing on tracks and nonstandard construction work along railway lines.

In 2014, 2.36 billion people traveled by rail, while freight trains transported 3.81 billion tonnes of cargo. Of the 112,000 km of track in operation, over 16,000 km, 14.3 percent, was high speed rail (HSR).

Last year, 8,427 km of new track was added to the network, with 65 percent being HSR. More than 10,000 km of new high-speed track is under construction.

Spending on new trains hit 146 billion yuan (24 billion U.S. dollars) in 2014, up 22.2 percent, while investment in new railroads rose 12.6 percent to 662 billion yuan.

China is increasing its involvement in overseas rail projects and is in discussions with the United States, Russia, India and European countries.

Yu Weiping, vice president of CNR, China's leading railway equipment maker, said last Monday that the company is building an assembly plant near Boston, after it won the bid for 284 metro vehicles worth 567 million U.S. dollars for the city.

China Railway ErYuan Engineering Group, a branch of China Railway Group, was chosen on Thursday as a co-contractor by Russian Railways to build a 770-km high-speed line connecting Moscow with Kazan. The contract is said to be worth 20 billion rubles (over 380 million U.S. dollars).

A Chinese delegation led by an NRA official was also in India on Saturday to assess the feasibility of a high-speed link between Mysuru and Chennai.

One of China South Railway's (CSR) state-of-the-art products, the CRH 380A, went on show at the Milan Expo on Saturday. The CRH (China railway high-speed) train hit a speed of 486.1 km per hour in a test in 2010. The train has run safely for more than 300 million km.

A merger between CSR and CNR has been approved and they will form a new company named CRRC Corporation Ltd. In separate notices filed to the Shanghai Stock Exchange on Wednesday, both companies said their stocks will stop trading on the Shanghai bourse on Thursday, because the board of directors has decided to accelerate the merger.

It aims to build a new transnational and globally significant provider of railway equipment, according to CSR.

Stocks of the CNR and the CSR dipped by 5.96 percent and 5.55 percent on Monday to close at 30.62 yuan and 29.94 yuan respectively."
Before you like idiot, now the thread prove you are idiot.:-)
 
jesus,I heard nothing about this.
maybe 1274 is a number that too small,it is more like 12740,just the same number killed by guns in america in a single day,and most of them are kids and black.
 
Lets talk about peoples deaths, make it a statistic and gloat about it in an obscure Pakistani military forum!

What is there to discuss?

The difference between someone dying on the tracks or someone dying in a carriage?

Someone dying on railroad ministry property or someone dying off government property?

Can a gorilla beat a tiger in a fight?

What about a bear? Is the bear young or old? Black or grizzly? The fcuk is this topic?
 
It's not railway accident, it's people who cross the railway and then killed by train.

You should know the differences. The train itself has no problem. The train runs safely always!


The NRA attributed the accidents mainly to floods, trespassing on tracks and nonstandard construction work along railway lines.

People always remember the HSR accident years ago, they intend to ignore the fact Chinese HSR runs safely for years,we have more than 3300 km HSR line in operation for years, none accident have occured except that one, which is caused by opeartion mistake by the drivers. Our HSR transport passengers over half a billion every year, our HSR build economy and cultural connections between cities.

Yeah you losers keep talking.

I always feel very funny that when I took the HSR, I saw a group of foreign losers taking photos of HSR or video camera. Why the did this?
 

The problem is when pulling US government railroad death stats like the above it seems from the list from wiki previously posted that they seem to be lumping in people who were not actually on the train into the statistics. So if a train crashes into a bus with 10 people in it they may get lumped in too That's all I'm trying to convey.
 
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The problem is when pulling US government railroad death stats like the above it seems from the list from wiki previously posted that they seem to be lumping in people who were not actually on the train into the statistics. So if a train crashes into a bus with 10 people in it they may get lumped in too That's all I'm trying to convey.

Why you do not see or heard of any railway crossing crash in China? Why only in United States?
 
Lets talk about peoples deaths, make it a statistic and gloat about it in an obscure Pakistani military forum!

What is there to discuss?

The difference between someone dying on the tracks or someone dying in a carriage?

Someone dying on railroad ministry property or someone dying off government property?

Can a gorilla beat a tiger in a fight?

What about a bear? Is the bear young or old? Black or grizzly? The fcuk is this topic?
I didn't see you admonishing your country mates when they opened the same topic and were happily gloating over accidents in the West
https://defence.pk/threads/comparative-rail-safety.421443/

I would say hypocrrrr............ but we all know that by now, don't we?
 
Chinese railway carried 17166 million in 2014
US carried somewhere between 30- 40 million the same year.
:cheesy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rail_usage_statistics_by_country

you have inflated the number of people carried in China and deflated the number of people carried in the US.

China have 2.36 billion passenger (2360 millions) in 2014, not 17166 millions, that figure, according to the source in Wikipedia, is the passenger per kilometre..

http://www.uic.org/IMG/pdf/synopsis_2014.pdf

According to the FRA, US Railway served 695 millions passenger in 2014, not some 30-40 millions

http://safetydata.fra.dot.gov/officeofsafety/publicsite/Query/AccidentByRegionStateCounty.aspx

The problem is when pulling US government railroad death stats like the above it seems from the list from wiki previously posted that they seem to be lumping in people who were not actually on the train into the statistics. So if a train crashes into a bus with 10 people in it they may get lumped in too That's all I'm trying to convey.

I don't understand why you see the need to debate railway safety between US and China with these people......To compare them, the action itself is an insult on Federal Railroad Administration......

The total Railway related death (All clause, derailment, collision, trespassing and other) in US during the year of 2014 is 770 passenger and 8 employee, total 778

Train accident (Derailment and Collision) - 5
Trespassing (Non-Crossing) - 472
Highway-Rail (Crossing) - 269
Other (Including Medical Emergency) - 32

Compare to the total casualty in China of the same period - 1232

Also, it worth notice that the definition of "Derailment" with FRA is quite broad, basically any obstruction contributed to the wheel uncoupling with the track are counted as a derailment. Which means this

Broken_rail_derailment.jpg


Counted as 1 derailment
 
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Some of Americans are really stupid for they still invite companies of China to build HSR for them even with such 'bad' records!
 
Dude you had 40 people killed in just one train accident a few years ago. I bet the total killed ON US passenger trains in the last 10 years does not exceed 50 people. .


Build me a list. You aren't going to hit 50.

Just two crashes in China with 112 deaths in the last 8 years:

There is simply NO WAY more US passengers are killed in trains than in China.
Could you quote the number of passengers who travel by train in a year in the US compared to the numbers in China?
 
Everything is relative. Really the safety records of both China and US are not that bad. India railroad had over 27,000 deaths for a single year!

Another factor to consider is that, based on Wiki data ("Rail usage statistics by country"), China RR carried 807 Billion Passenger-KM for 2014, while US RR only carried 10.3 Billion Passenger-KM.

If China RR is as safe as US, China fatality number should be 80 times higher than US fatality. Well, now its seems China RR could be safer. :-)


27,581 Indians died in railway accidents in 2014
  • Vignesh Radhakrishnan, Hindustan Times, New Delhi
  • Updated: Aug 03, 2015 14:06 IST
A total of 27,581 Indians died in 2014 in railway related accidents, the latest data by the National Crime Records Bureau shows.

The NCRB has recorded railway-related accidents in two categories - railway and railways crossing accidents.

The leading cause of deaths in railway accidents was fall from trains/collision of trains with people on tracks, which together accounted for 13,542 deaths. Other causes include - collisions (99 deaths), derailments (59), explosion/fire (32). Cause for rest of the cases are not known.

Railway accidents

According to the NCRB, 25,006 people died and 3,882 were injured in a total of 28,360 railway accidents across the country in 2014. The railway accident cases have decreased by 9.2% as compared to those in 2013.

Maharashtra reported the maximum or 7,969 such cases in which 5,024 people were killed and 3,208 were injured. In cities, the maximum number of deaths was reported in Delhi (856), followed by Bhopal (132), Allahabad (92) and Jabalpur (76).

Here is a complete state-wise break-up of railway accident cases, number of injured and deaths:



The maximum number of railway accidents happened in June or 9.4% of the total. And most of these accidents or 17.5% of total were reported between 6am and 9am.

Railway crossing accidents

NCRB says a total of 2,547 railway crossing accidents led to 2,575 deaths and 126 injuries across the country in 2014. The railways crossing accidents have increased by 83.5% when compared to 2013.

Telangana had an unusually large number of railway crossing accidents with 1,061 or 41.65% incidents being reported from the state.
 
Wow!

I almost fell off my chair.

"27,581 Indians died in railway accidents in 2014".

This is a staggering number. I hope India will do more to reduce this high number.
 

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