Re-discover Power of Coal: China Advances in Clean Coal & CTX Technology

[Keel]

The US government organizations will always use a misleading definition to show that China is energy poor. That is not true with today's technology.

As the Circle of Blue article shows, desalinated water will be pumped from the Bohai Sea inland. Sea water is not used. Nuclear power plants are excellent desalinators.

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But regardless of the process of water desalination, the outflowing water will still be contaminated unless it is treated

 

[tranquilium]

It will not last long. Electric car and hybrid car will be the way to in future.

Petroleum is an important chemical industry resource. It is used in a lot of stuff such as fertilizer, plastic and I believe textile as well.

 

[Martian2]

Scientific American acknowledges 2.2 TRILLION tons of coal reserves in China's Xinjiang province

When the US government finally grows up and stops playing games with a technical definition of "proven" coal reserve, I will eventually use them as a citation.

Until that time, I will cite reputable publications like Scientific American. It is common sense that coal located within 2,000 meters of the surface is easily recoverable. Scientific American agrees with me and the well-regarded publication acknowledges the 2.2 TRILLION tons of coal reserves in China's Xinjiang province.

Where Coal Is King in China - Scientific American

 

[Hyperion]

@Martian2 For "coal to oil" process to work out economically, does it have to be bituminous coal? If not, we have one of worlds largest recoverable reserves of crappy coal @ 175 billion + tonne.

Thar coalfield - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Never mind, our quack job of "scientists" can't do anything with it, neither can our Donald Duck of government.

 

[Martian2]

@Martian2 For "coal to oil" process to work out economically, does it have to be bituminous coal? If not, we have one of worlds largest recoverable reserves of crappy coal @ 175 billion + tonne.

Thar coalfield - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Never mind, our quack job of "scientists" can't do anything with it, neither can our Donald Duck of government.

Coal liquefaction usually uses the cheapest coal possible (ie. lignite).

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Coal Liquefaction for Alternative Fuel?

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There are different types of coal liquefaction technologies (e.g. direct vs. indirect process).

Bituminous coal can be used for coal liquefaction.

http://www.jcoal.or.jp/eng/cctinjapan/2_4A2.pdf

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1. anthracite (best quality)
2. bituminous coal (second-best quality)
3. sub-bituminous coal (third-best quality)
4. lignite (lowest quality)

Coal: Anthracite, Bituminous, Coke, Pictures, Formation, Uses

 

[Hyperion]

So basically, Pakistan has world's 6th largest reserves. That could mean some serious cash if we could work out the process and keep it marginally below production cost of crude. Nice to know. We shall be watching the Chinese experiment with deep interest.

Coal liquefaction usually uses the cheapest coal possible (ie. lignite).

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Coal Liquefaction for Alternative Fuel?

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There are different types of coal liquefaction technologies (e.g. direct vs. indirect process).

Bituminous coal can be used for coal liquefaction.

http://www.jcoal.or.jp/eng/cctinjapan/2_4A2.pdf

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1. anthracite (best quality)
2. bituminous coal (second-best quality)
3. sub-bituminous coal (third-best quality)
4. lignite (lowest quality)

Coal: Anthracite, Bituminous, Coke, Pictures, Formation, Uses

 

[somebozo]

Coal to Gas is far more cleaner and efficient than coal to oil but China may want to build this as a strategic backup for liquid fuels..

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

It will not last long. Electric car and hybrid car will be the way to in future.

Plus is fusion to generate electricity for those car nearer than we think...
Tech entrepreneurs are investing in fusion — do they know something we don’t? | ExtremeTech

 

[tranquilium]

So basically, Pakistan has world's 6th largest reserves. That could mean some serious cash if we could work out the process and keep it marginally below production cost of crude. Nice to know. We shall be watching the Chinese experiment with deep interest.

Coal to Gas is far more cleaner and efficient than coal to oil but China may want to build this as a strategic backup for liquid fuels..

Well, the technology is not necessarily developed for producing petroleum below the cost of naturally existing crude or even as fuel. This is more like when petroleum availability becomes limited, you have an alternative replacement so your vital industry does not get shut down. Out of petroleum's applications, the one that is most critical is actually fertilizer production. Because supporting a modern nation's population, especially one like China or Pakistan, simply can't be do without fertilizers. It is actually a lot more important than fuel for transportation.

Plus is fusion to generate electricity for those car nearer than we think...
Tech entrepreneurs are investing in fusion — do they know something we don’t? | ExtremeTech

Ah, fusion. The perpetual 30 years away holy grail of energy production. Don't get me wrong, I would dearly love fusion to come soon and I am quite confident it will come. I am just wishing it is within my life time.

 

[Indus Falcon]

Very interesting thread

 

[cirr]

It will not last long. Electric car and hybrid car will be the way to in future.

No worry there。

When it comes to the production and adoption of new-energy vehicles, including electric and hybrid autos, China is already the world leader.

China's aim is to have 5 million plus new-energy vehicles on the road by 2020.

 

[powastick]

How does the plant deal with CO2 emission?

 

[Jlaw]

Is this profitable when oil is so cheap?

Synthetic oil is expensive and profitable. a 4.4 liter jug sells for $40 CAD.

 

[Martian2]

How does the plant deal with CO2 emission?

FOSSIL FUELS: Chinese companies plunge into coal-to-liquids business, despite water and CO2 problems -- Monday, February 23, 2015 -- www.eenews.net

 

[Shotgunner51]

http://worldctx.com/wp-content/uploads/Press-Release-2015-World-CTX-Award.pdf

2015 World Coal To X Award to
Dr. Yang Yong from China

March 4, 2015​

Dr. Yang Yong, Director of R&D Center and Deputy General Manager of Synfuels China, will receive the 2015 Award for his achievements in developing a new generation Fischer Tropsch process. Dr. Yang Yong has been instrumental in defining a new Fischer-Tropsch process which has been successfully operated in several demonstration plants in China.
Given the key role played by the reaction catalyst, Dr. Yang and his team developed an iron-based catalyst, for the production of which a plant is being constructed.

The Fischer Tropsch technology is the most frequently used process to convert gasified coal or natural gas into liquid fuels, namely fuel oil, gasoline and jet fuel. The World CTX Advisory Board a ppreciated how Dr. Yang’ scientific curiosity, technical skills and management talent led his team to reach these technological breakthroughs.

Dr. Yang has published more than 60 scientific articles and obtained 33 patents. He has been awarded the Outstanding Scientific Achievement Award by the Chinese Academy of Sciences in 2005, the National Energy Technology Progress Award by China Petroleum and Chemical Industry Association in 2010 and the Mao Yisheng Beijing Youth Science and Technology Award in 2012. More details on Dr. Yang’s career at World CTX Award - World CTX

The presentation ceremony will take place on April 17, 2015 in Beijing, at the conclusion of the yearly World Coal To X Conference. Previous World Coal To X recipients:

• 2014: Dr. Wu Xiuzhang, Chairman of China Shenhua Coal to Liquid and Chemical Company Limited and Vice Chief Engineer of Shenhua Group Corporation Limited, China
  
• 2013: Mr. Max-Michael Weiss, Director Innovation, Clean Conversion of Air Liquide Global Engineering & Construction Solutions, Germany
  
• 2012: Dr. Shu Geping, Chief Engineer of China Shenhua Coal to Liquid & Chemical Ordos Coal Liquefaction Company, China
  
• 2011: Mr. Rudi Heydenrich, Executive Manager of Sasol Technology, South Africa.
  
• 2010: Mr. Zhang Jiming, Vice President of China Shenhua Coal To Liquid and Chemical, China.
  
• 2009: Dr. Theo Lee, Chief Technology Officer of Headwaters CTL, USA.
  
• 2008: Dr. Sadao Wasaka, Executive Director of the New Energy and Industry Technology Organization or NEDO, Japan.

World Coal To X is the global leading hub on coal conversion to high value hydrocarbons. Last conferences in Europe, North America and Asia have each attracted between 250 and 350 participants from all continents.

Press contact:

Paul Bacon
World Coal To X, 8 rue de la Mission Marchand, 75016 Paris, France
Tel : +33 607 28 5247
E-mail: management2015@worldctx.com
Website: World Coal to X - World CTX​