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March 12, 2012: Six years after it was introduced, the Chinese QLB-06 35mm semi-automatic grenade launcher is being seen more frequently in the hands of the troops. It weighs 9.1 kg (20 pounds) empty and is 1046mm (41 inches) long. A drum magazine can hold 4-6 rounds, giving the weapon a maximum weight of 9.6 kg (27 pounds). It's semi-automatic, and effective up to 1,000 meters.

The QLB-06 is but the latest of a growing number of similar weapons. All these portable grenade launchers have an interesting past. While the U.S. developed a 40mm grenade, launched from single shot (resembling a shotgun), hand held weapon, as well as a heavier, vehicle mounted, machine-gun type weapon, China developed something unique in its line of 35mm grenade launcher weapons. The earlier QLB-87 has a magazine system could hold 6, 9 or 12 35mm rounds. It weighs 12 kg (26.5 pounds). It looks, and is used like, a light machine-gun. This weapon has not been used in combat yet, and Western armies have stayed away from this design because it's easier to mount automatic 40mm machine-guns (weighing over a 50 kg/110 pounds) on armored vehicles or light trucks. The Chinese, however, have more light (few vehicles) infantry. So for them, the W87 makes a lot of sense. But apparently Chinese troops, and weapons developers, thought better of the QLB-87 and came up with the lighter QLB-06.

Automatic grenade launchers, firing low speed 30-40mm shells, became popular in the 1960s when the usefulness of the American single shot M79 40mm grenade launcher was noted. Many troops today want the M79 back. But back then, Russia and the United States proceeded to develop automatic grenade launchers. This was actually the second generation, as the Russians originally developed such weapons in the 1930s. By 1939 the Russian Navy was testing a 40.8mm weapon, and the army followed a year later. The 21 ounce shells were based on the Djakonow rifle grenade and were fired at 129 meters (400 feet) per second (about 40 percent the speed of a pistol bullet) for a maximum range of 1,200 meters. The weapon weighed 24 kg (53 pounds) and was used in the 1940 Winter War with Finland. For political reasons (the weapons designer fell out of favor), the weapon was withdrawn from service before the Germans invaded in 1941 and was forgotten. This sort of thing happens a lot in military history.

In 1965, the U.S. developed and put into service the M18 40mm automatic grenade launcher. This weapon used the same 40mm round as the M79. The 8.6 kg (19 pound) M18 used a hand crank to load rounds (from a belt). Work on this weapon actually began in 1962, but it took the popularity of the M79 in Vietnam to spur production. Some 1,200 M18s were built through 1968, and it was a popular weapon on U.S. Navy river patrol boats, where ambushes were frequently encountered. Starting in 1966, the M18 was replaced by the heavier M19 that was truly automatic, but weighed 34 kg (75 pounds). This was also developed by the U.S. Navy. Russia followed in 1974 with the AGS17, a 30mm grenade launcher weighing the same as the M19, but firing a 285 gram (ten ounce) shell instead of the 458 gr (16 ounce) 40mm shell used in American weapons.

The U.S. and other nations have since come out with lightweight grenade launchers that fit under the assault launcher. But the appeal of a dedicated grenade launcher for a "grenadier" has always been popular. One skilled grenadier with a weapon like the QLB-06 can be very effective.

Weapons: China's 35mm Little Wonder
 
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Wonder if they will have a chain feed automatic version?

The older grenade launcher that has been exported:

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It's not a standard issue, but an experimental model designed by one of the armament factories for export.
 
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Wonder if they will have a chain feed automatic version?

The older grenade launcher that has been exported:
You'll never see a chain fed version of the QLB-06. That one's meant for close quarters. Automatic grenade launchers have way too much kick and need to be on heavy tripods or mounted. Check out these videos of the Russian AGS-17 / AGS-30, German HK GMG and American XM307. The AGS-17/30 use 30mm and 40mm rounds. The soldier can barely keep the AGS-17 stationary because the tripod is so flimsy. I'm surprised he's even hitting those targets because the tripod is practically hopping all over the place. The AGS-17 was provided to the Vietnamese for the 1979 Sino-Vietnam border war and was supposedly responsible for a significant amount of China's casualties despite it's relatively poor accuracy. Sort of like how inaccurate the AK-47 is, but still has great stopping power at closer range.

Voennoe Delo: Russian Automatic Grenade Launchers AGS-17 and AGS-30 (English Subtitles) - YouTube

The best fielded automatic grenade launcher is the HK GMG. Sturdy tripod and recoil-less. It behaves more like a large caliber machine gun than your atypical grenade launcher and can also fire regular rounds. You can actually make full use of this beast's full range with accuracy, that's how good it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&NR=1&v=kZAceAuTIkc

The American XM307 is a next generation automatic grenade launcher. It weighs little more than 50lbs, has a rifled recoil less design that can fire air-burst grenade munitions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2_2cCmzovc
 
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Xm307 has lethality issues. All the burst weapons do including the Daewoo
 
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Man, when are we gonna get hand-held artillery guns? :oops:
 
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Wonder if they will have a chain feed automatic version?

The older grenade launcher that has been exported:
Just learned that the QLB-06 can penetrate 80mm of armour and has a 10m kill radius. Hard to believe but if true, a chain fed version of this would be like a 2-man artillery platoon and absolutely lethal against light infantry.
 
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Xm307 has lethality issues. All the burst weapons do including the Daewoo
That's the tradeoff to get around obstacles. Besides, the XM307 can choose which round it will use to fit the situation. I understand it has 2 types of grenade rounds besides the air-burst which have kill radius of 5m and 10m. The air burst round isn't perfect but in cases where they need to limit collateral damage or avoid an obstacle, they can at least get a shot off instead of no shot at all. They could also either develop a new more powerful air-burst shrapnel round incorporating the qualities of their 10m kill radius round. Not that I think that is necessary since the air burst round is used for single shot kills, not saturation attacks like you have with automatic fire. Besides, the XM307 is fully automatic and if the 1st round doesn't do the trick, you can simply fire as many as needed in rapid succession to turn the target into ground beef.
 
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The AGS-17 was provided to the Vietnamese for the 1978 Sino-Vietnam border war and was supposedly responsible for a significant amount of China's casualties despite it's relatively poor accuracy. Sort of like how inaccurate the AK-47 is, but still has great stopping power at closer range.

No doubt it can be deadly for ambush at close quarter.

I read that 20mm and 25mm launched grenades are too small/light to fragment effectively. Most operators use 35mm or 40mm.
 
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No doubt it can be deadly for ambush at close quarter.

I read that 20mm and 25mm launched grenades are too small/light to fragment effectively. Most operators use 35mm or 40mm.
Intuitively you would think the bigger round the better. Most of these launchers are designed to be able to be 2-man portable with 1 gunner and 1 loader/transporter, the tradeoff comes with lower rate of fire and accuracy because of the exponential recoil of these bigger rounds. I think the HK GMG does a great job with 40mm rounds being recoil-less on a wide, heavy tripod. The AGS-17/30 are just brutal when firing their 40mm rounds. They have a poorly designed tripod that's way too small and firing "practically" works like a mortar barrel. The result is, every burst of fire spreads the rounds and reduces accurate long range targeting. As I said, it's like an automatic grenade launcher version of an AK-47.
 
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Truly beutiful machine. I've always admired the Chinese for there weapons.

The past is the future. Chinese dragon is rising.
 
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