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China warns India of 'reverse sanctions' if Huawei is blocked
3 min read . Updated: 06 Aug 2019, 07:21 PM ISTSanjeev Miglani , Neha Dasgupta , Reuters
  • India is due to hold trials for installing a next-generation 5G cellular network in the next few months
  • Huawei, the world's biggest maker of such gear, is at the centre of a geopolitical tug-of-war between China and the United States
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NEW DELHI: China has told India not to block its Huawei Technologies from doing business in the country, warning there could be consequences for Indian firms operating in China, sources with knowledge of the matter said.

India is due to hold trials for installing a next-generation 5G cellular network in the next few months, but has not yet taken a call on whether it would invite the Chinese telecoms equipment maker to take part, telecoms minister Ravi Shankar Prasad has said.

Huawei, the world's biggest maker of such gear, is at the centre of a geopolitical tug-of-war between China and the United States. US President Donald Trump's administration put the company on a blacklist in May, citing national security concerns. It has asked its allies not to use Huawei equipment, which it says China could exploit for spying.

Two sources privy to internal discussions in New Delhi said India's ambassador in Beijing, Vikram Misri, was called to the Chinese foreign ministry on July 10 to hear China's concerns about the US campaign to keep Huawei out of 5G mobile infrastructure worldwide.


During the meeting, Chinese officials said there could be "reverse sanctions" on Indian firms engaged in business in China should India block Huawei because of pressure from Washington, one of the sources said, citing a readout of the ambassador's meeting.

The Indian foreign ministry did not respond to a request for comment. China's foreign ministry also did not respond to a Reuters request for comment on the matter.

TENSIONS OVER TRADE, TERRITORY

Indian companies have a far smaller presence in China than other major economies. But firms including Infosys, TCS, Dr Reddy's Laboratories Reliance Industries and Mahindra & Mahindra have a foothold there in manufacturing, healthcare, financial services and outsourcing.

A potential row over Huawei could revive tensions in the broader India and China relationship just as the two sides have been making high-level efforts to ensure their long standing territorial disputes do not escalate.


In October, Prime Minister Narendra Modi will host Chinese President Xi Jinping in the sacred Hindu city of Varanasi, his parliamentary constituency in northern India, where the two are expected to address trade issues including a $53 billion trade deficit in 2018/19 that India is concerned about.

The main right-wing group tied to Modi's ruling alliance, which has a long-standing distrust of China and promotes self- reliance in the economy, has stepped up criticism of Huawei.

In a letter written to Modi last week, Ashwani Mahajan, the head of the economic wing of the Hindu nationalist Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh, said there were concerns about the operations of Huawei in India.

"We as a country are not yet sure of relying on Huawei. Globally, the Chinese companies, including Huawei, are facing allegations that they 'underbid' projects, and position themselves and their establishment back home to snoop and enable them to shut remotely, if required be," he wrote.


SECURITY CONCERNS ALLAYED

Minister Prasad told parliament that six proposals have been received for 5G technology trials, including from Huawei. He did not name the others, but firms such as Sweden's Ericsson Finland's Nokia and South Korea's Samsung Electronics are expected to participate.

A high-level group of officials, led by the Principal Scientific Advisor to the Indian government Dr. K Vijay Raghavan and including representatives from the departments of telecoms, information technology and the intelligence services, has been looking into whether to open the 5G trials to Huawei.

The committee has found no evidence to suggest Huawei has used "back-door" programmes or malware to collect data in its current operations in India, the first source and another official in the federal telecoms ministry said.


The interior ministry, which is responsible for the security of the infrastructure, had issued no directive to curtail Huawei's entry, the telecoms official said.

"We can't simply reject them just because they are Chinese," said the official.

One option that a tech expert at the government's National Security Advisory Board (NSAB) has suggested is to ensure the hardware and software for the proposed fifth-generation network are not both sourced from Huawei.

The government should get wireless carriers who will be rolling out 5G services to use Indian-made software to drive equipment supplied by gearmakers such as Huawei, NSAB expert V.Kamakoti said in a recent internal presentation reviewed by Reuters.
 
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Try it. You have a surplus of 50 Billion with us. You will be royally fucked
 
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As Trump found out having a surplus doesn't mean China can't use other means for a trade war.
 
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All the top mobile companies in India are Chines...There is no reason to single out one Chines Company if it allows us to get good service with cheaper price
 
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I think we should have FCC, CE equivalent for Electronics which also test the product in its operational way to check its firmware and hardware for snooping. But Huawei should be allowed. If they are cheap then no issues.

However if evidence of security issues come up, and then it has to be blocked, its welcome. Chinese mobile companies make billions every year in India and have 50% of the market share. The loss will be more for them. Indian companies do not dominate Chinese market anyway.
 
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The entire Indians facebook, linkedin, whatsapp data is in USA - so what exactly are indian "security" concerns ? even their banking data using VISA and MC is in USA - recently RBI made some noises but nobody knows how much was implemented. Indian saying they have "security" concerns on huawei is just rubbish. Let them ban all chinese companies if they dare live miserably with over priced western products or unreliable junk from politically connected indian manufacturers.Funny thing is when Indian manufacturers dominated mobile market all they did was import them from china and just label it with their brands.
 
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The entire Indians facebook, linkedin, whatsapp data is in USA - so what exactly are indian "security" concerns ? even their banking data using VISA and MC is in USA - recently RBI made some noises but nobody knows how much was implemented. Indian saying they have "security" concerns on huawei is just rubbish. Let them ban all chinese companies if they dare live miserably with over priced western products or unreliable junk from politically connected indian manufacturers.Funny thing is when Indian manufacturers dominated mobile market all they did was import them from china and just label it with their brands.

They passed a law asking the data be stored on Indian soil
It is not like Huawei gear or chinese high speed rail or chinese equipment is cheap
 
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They passed a law asking the data be stored on Indian soil
It is not like Huawei gear or chinese high speed rail or chinese equipment is cheap

A law in India is simply a virtue signalling intent by the parliament. How much it is implemented varies wildly. In addition the law applies only to banking data. Whatsapp , facebook data is still in american server.
What do you mean chinese equipment is not "cheap"? it is competitive thats why they sell.
 
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Try it. You have a surplus of 50 Billion with us. You will be royally fucked
50 billion is big money for poor hindu, but not so much for China.

And hindu is spineless, they will buy Chinese machine tools and electronic products anyway.
Maybe they will boycot for one day.
lol

I don't think India has choice. Huawei is the only one that is workable for India. Others are too expensive for India.
Hindus are poorer than most Sub-Sahara Africans, but they talk like supa powans.
 
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Getting sanctions from China might be the best thing that happens to India. We have a huge technical manpower and world's best engineering brains, we should be making these kind of things in India.
 
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USA doesn't even have 5G and even European countries like the Swiss are looking for Huawei due to their 5G cheapness and the backdoor claim by Trump is just BS. If India thinks they can find something cheaper and is true 5G now I wish them luck.
 
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Getting sanctions from China might be the best thing that happens to India. We have a huge technical manpower and world's best engineering brains, we should be making these kind of things in India.
Yes, 82 power, best univerisities, 95% NASA scientistus and 80% Merican doctoras.
Way higher average IQ than Sub-Sahara Africans.

USA doesn't even have 5G and even European countries like the Swiss are looking for Huawei due to their 5G cheapness and the backdoor claim by Trump is just BS. If India thinks they can find something cheaper and is true 5G now I wish them luck.
No tech can compete with Vedic mouth.
From Vedic mouth, you not only smell curry, but also supa powan glory.
 
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Yes, 82 power, best univerisities, 95% NASA scientistus and 80% Merican doctoras.
Way higher average IQ than Sub-Sahara Africans.


No tech can compete with Vedic mouth.
From Vedic mouth, you not only smell curry, but also supa powan glory.

Let me give you some examples cause I know it's difficult to understand things when you're making 50 cents/hr.

CEO of Google = Indian
CEO of Pepsi = Indian
CEO of Microsoft = Indian
CEO of Nokia = Indian
CEO of Mastercard = Indian
CEO of NetApp = Indian
CEO of Adobe = Indian
CEO of Qualcomm = Indian
CEO of Cognizant = Indian
CEO of Deutsche Bank = Indian
CEO of ArcelorMittal (World's biggest Steel company) = Indian
CEO of Novartis = Indian

Think a little harder and maybe you'll get the point....in 2-3 hours.
 
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Let me give you some examples cause I know it's difficult to understand things when you're making 50 cents/hr.

CEO of Google = Indian
CEO of Pepsi = Indian
CEO of Microsoft = Indian
CEO of Nokia = Indian
CEO of Mastercard = Indian
CEO of NetApp = Indian
CEO of Adobe = Indian
CEO of Qualcomm = Indian
CEO of Cognizant = Indian
CEO of Deutsche Bank = Indian
CEO of ArcelorMittal (World's biggest Steel company) = Indian
CEO of Novartis = Indian

Think a little harder and maybe you'll get the point....in 2-3 hours.
None of these companies were created by Indians. Indians are well known as loyal housekeepers to the whites. CEO is like new version housekeeper.
 
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