Please explain to me what exactly you find reprehensible about the method that the multinational organizations use. There is an established procedure for dealing with issues regarding an organization's intangible assets per se Intellectual Property Rights. What Western corporations are calling into question is the outright investigation of outright theft, the implementation of judicial proceedings and punishment of those involved and those who abet such actions. You see this is the issue that many multinational corporations have with China because as much as China is developing into a mature economy, it still is not abiding with international norms that address said issues. If China wants to be respected by the global partners, it has to do its part and prevent outright , unscrupulous IP theft, or if such an incident occurs, has to judiciously take action. This would boost confidence of China's partners and the positive views the world has on China in regards to IP.
Personally, given my interests in the field and in corporate structure, I actually want China to succeed and to develop its corporate structure to the level seen in many Western and Japanese firms. I want a healthy, sound competition between said corporations , with systems set in place to take action in the event there are violations. Despite news media reports , I do remain hopeful and optimistic in regards to China.
I am giving you a direct answer in all of my posts, perhaps you can clarify with me in any area where you felt I was being obscure, and I would readily and happily provide clarification.
everything up to this point I'm ok with. The thing I'm not ok with is the next part.
These are remarks made in response to the Intellectual Property Rights violations. Put yourself in the shoes of American, British, Japanese, Korean corporations who are experiencing said exigencies. The R&D costs to develop said products they produce are in the millions if not billions of dollars, and thus outright theft of said R&D is not only repulsive but threatening to their interests. Try to make a conclusive analysis.
I'm not putting myself in anyone's shoes, as I doubt any Americans have or want to. Let's just say I been thinking of them as much as they have of me.
Being free and independent or being liked, well, given the choice I believed the former is better, the latter resulted in carriers on our shores.
I don't know your definition of "conducting business", but I don't think voracious IP theft is exemplary of business proceedings. Do clarify with me.
What we are doing is wrong, but it is in the interests of China, I know you mention perception, but I will get to that the next part with Leverage.
What I mean is does US think threatening us or make us look bad will work? Maybe it will who knows.
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China chooses to frame it this way. China could easily declare that it has moved beyond its inferior status, and will now take a leading role among the nations in pushing forward science, technology, etc. Presto, China removes the major friction with the West, while massaging its own ego. This isn't a difficult thing to accomplish.
We are not ready to compete toe to toe with the US, but in the field where we are, you be hard pressed to find intellectual properties stolen on a massive scale.
The Xiaomi phone may have some similarities, and they may not be entirely coincidental, but the market for Xiaomi is different, and the business model even more so.
There are more fields where we don't really look to the West anymore, but these are still in the minority.
China is without a doubt better than the one I saw 20 years ago, except for the political question. 1989 was a momentous year that changed history, and sometimes I am sad to think about what China might have been if it had chosen to tolerate some political diversity instead of doubling down on authoritarianism, but in aggregate, there can be no question: China has improved dramatically.
I am not certain that "respect" is the right way to describe what we feel towards China's power, because from our perspective, China deploys that power capriciously. It was easier to "respect" the USSR, simply because it operated in a Western ideological framework, just at the other end of the spectrum. The USSR believed in its own economic system, Communism, and thus it would be unthinkable for the USSR to engage in industrial espionage in order to out-compete our corporations; espionage was reserved for military or security issues.
China's actions are inscrutable to the Western mind (accumulating power for the sake of power doesn't make sense to us; accumulating power to enrich the citizenry is more understandable, but that's not the CCP's goal). As you and others have made clear, about the only thing China seems to believe in is its own power. It hasn't laid out a framework of values that would at least give us a context to understand what it's after. China complains about the Western system, but offers no alternative. Even the SCO and the new anti-IMF and anti-World Bank organizations set up by China can never replace their Western counterparts, they can only "compete" with them (if that's the right phrase to use).
We could reach an understanding with the USSR, where we had an unspoken agreement that there would not be a world war between us, but rather our ideological "Great Game" would be played out in "small wars" through our proxies. The USSR would attempt to spread Communism throughout the world to make the world safe for Communism, and we would attempt to spread liberal democracy throughout the world, to make the world safe for liberal democracy.
We have no such understanding with China, as far as I am aware. If China has secretly made an offer to the US, (i.e. give us free reign in the SCS, and we won't made trouble in the ECS), I am not aware of it, of course. But based on the behavior of our own leadership, either such an offer has never been made, or it has been rejected. Thus, we are left with a vacuum, and we don't know what China is after, or what it will do, or when it will do it. So we prepare for contingencies, and China interprets this as containment, or encirclement, and responds aggressively. And the vicious circle rolls on. We are falling back, by default, into a new Cold War model in lieu of "a new kind of great power relationship" (to this day, still undefined).
I wouldn't call it respect. It's probably closer to fear, to be honest. But we feared the USSR, too. So what is needed today is to reach some kind of understanding with China for how the world will look for the next several decades, but the stars have not aligned for that kind of meeting of the minds, yet.
We do have a ideology it is, security, peace, development, and prosperity. I mean I just made that up now, but it's stil lwhat China is known for.
China in many ways is better for the developing world than the US, as our model has proven to succeed for a developing nation.
watch this, it's not exactly what I talked about, but it's a start.
As to understanding, we can't have that, because we are not fighting for some third nation, we can't back out of China, we are in our sphere and fighting for dear life. Tell me how we can compromise without moving to mars.
I know it's hard for you to accept, but seeing your countrymen poor and suffering isn't the greatest pleasure Chinese politicians have. Much of the new policies are for improving the everyday life of the ordinary citizens.
China doesn't have much of an anti West institutions, not time yet, we are just testing the waters, send some forward scouts and see what's up. The real challenge comes later.
Wouldn't call it respect? Fear? Good enough, 10-15 years ago you guys didn't have this. We test missiles you misdirect them using GPS, and send carriers, today we are building islands sending rigs, and much much more, Huangyan island is ours now again for one, and no carrier sent to intimidate.
If that's not the fruits of our strategy, I don't know what is. Good life for the people and the demand for second thoughts on international issues, you can find another nation that didn't do what we do, and we play with them for fun. So, results speak louder than words and money matters more than feelings.
But that's just me.