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China, Vietnam willing to handle maritime issues through dialogue

China talk and do always different.

1955, two party agreed thast the territory disputed should be solve base on negotiation of two side. But 1974 China attacked and occupied Paracel Islands of Vietnam.

1975, both party agreed again that the matter will do by peaceful negotiation, but 1988 China again attacked and robbed Gac Ma ( south John reef) and other four reefs of Vietnam.

Chinse is untrusted people.



For Paracel Island dispute is related two side only, Vietnam and China, but China denied to discuss with Vietnam.

For the Spratly dispute is related to Phi, Bruney and Maysia. How can we do it , ?

You are right, all these promises for negotiation in the last 30 years are all fake.

I have read that during the last oil rig conflict, Vietnamese officials tried to call the Chinese officials but no one answered the phone. The Viet side tried calling 30 times to negotiate but still the Chinese officials refused to answer the phone.

I laugh at all the naive people who believe in these promises to negotiate. hohohohoho
 
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Vietnam's desire and intentions are well knows. But, given that, according to the report, the sides agreed to a "dialogue," which I presume between the two sides, there is no big power coming into. It is Vietnam and China, sitting on a table, talking to each other. China will not engage in multilateral talks on territorial issues.

There is no dispute on the Paracels.

That's purpose of China, but we gain small success when ASEAN point out there is dispute on Paracels with HY-981 case.
 
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That's purpose of China, but we gain small success when ASEAN point out there is dispute on Paracels with HY-981 case.

Small success is no success as China never allowed these issues to be multilaterilize. In the case of oil rig, ASEAN just made a regular statement, calling the sides to ease tension etc. ASEAN members are more than willing to join China-led intitatives. See Development Bank, APFTA, etc.
 
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so essentially you have no idea what I'm talking about.

I'm not talking about the negotiations. I'm saying Vietnam as a nation, as a people, what can you bring to the world that would make you a valued member of the group.

You want trustworthy? Bring something to the table. America will turn on the Philippines on the drop of a hat, but not on Japan, cause Japan brings a ton to the table. (I'm not talking military here, though it helps.)

So what can you bring to the table.



Oh and piece of advice, don't ever say things like that, makes you sound weak and 5 years old.
Their women and jack fruits
 
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Small success is no success as China never allowed these issues to be multilaterilize. In the case of oil rig, ASEAN just made a regular statement, calling the sides to ease tension etc. ASEAN members are more than willing to join China-led intitatives. See Development Bank, APFTA, etc.

That's normal, look at how good works made by both Vietnamese and Chinese government.
 
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Gentlemen, seems like diplomacy is being forayed in earnest.
@kankan326 , @Soryu , @Rechoice , @Viet , @TaiShang , et al,

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(Reuters) - China and Vietnam have agreed to handle maritime disputes through dialogue, Chinese state media reported on Monday, months after ties between the two countries hit a three-decade low in a row over a Chinese oil rig in disputed waters.

The two Communist neighbors must respect each other and focus on long-term interests, President Xi Jinping said, according to the official Xinhua news agency.

"Sino-Vietnamese relations have been advancing continuously since the two nations established diplomatic relations, despite some twists and turns," he said.

Vietnamese President Truong Tan Sang said his country was ready to "properly deal with maritime issues through friendly consultation so that the issues will not affect its relations with China", according to Xinhua.

Sang said Vietnam was ready to step up high-level contacts and non-government swaps to strengthen its links with China.

The two countries agreed to "address and control" maritime disputes, state media reported last month, in the wake of the row sparked by China's May 2 deployment of a $1 billion-oil rig to disputed waters that straddle a key shipping lane.

Defense leaders from the two countries held talks last month in Beijing, and both sides agreed to "gradually resume" military ties, Xinhua reported.

Vietnam has reacted with alarm at China's military rise and increasingly assertive posture, broadening military ties with the United States as well as with Cold War-era patron Russia.

Territorial disputes in the potentially oil-rich South China Sea have roiled ties between China and many neighbors. Brunei, Malaysia, the Philippines, Taiwan and Vietnam also have claims in the waters, crossed by $5 trillion of ship-borne goods every year.



China, Vietnam willing to handle maritime issues through dialogue| Reuters
cheap talk and just rhetoric. you see China refuses to agree on code of conduct as they had previously promised. I suggest Japan to support our military build-up, maybe they will change their mind.

but okay, I can understand them. why should they listen to minor powers? law of the jungle prevails. only the fittest survives.
 
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So now, China PLA beg for negotiation wt Vn when they see F-16 fighter may sell to Vn soon ??? I said already. China PLA dont know and dont have the guts to fight in real battle without US daddy support like during 1979 to 1988 :laugh:
 
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In fact, with idiot nine dashed claim, China bring other super powers back to the region.
You need to stop being a troublemaker. You are the one inviting foreign power to settle dispute. We have said many times that the 9 dashed line is a historical reference that nobody object until recently.
 
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You need to stop being a troublemaker. You are the one inviting foreign power to settle dispute. We have said many times that the 9 dashed line is a historical reference that nobody object until recently.
you can stick your 9 dash historial reference line into your a.. as nobody in the world respects it.
sure, we invite all major powers to the party. it is an open party, you know.
 
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before we get into this whole thing of who's trustworthy or not.

Let me just ask this, what exactly can Vietnam offer China, I don't mean islands, I mean in general. What does Vietnam bring to the table, like a Japan, or UK to the US.

You say we are untrustworthy? We are not your guardian angel, that's not our role, we will do what we want, the question becomes not what can Vietnam do to stop us, which you can't, but what can you bring to the table, that makes you valuable.

I know what good relations could do for Vietnam's military, economy, political influence, and pretty much every aspect of Vietnam, but what can Vietnam give in return.


once you figure that out, it doesn't really matter what you think of us.
chinese people are famous of high IQ, but I´m afraid yours is below average.

you ask what exactly can Vietnam offer China?
don´t you realize the fact since more 2,000 years we want to get rid of you, the country called china?
 
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So now, China PLA beg for negotiation wt Vn when they see F-16 fighter may sell to Vn soon ??? I said already. China PLA dont know and dont have the guts to fight in real battle without US daddy support like during 1979 to 1988 :laugh:
Hey NiceGuy, how are you man? STill making money in VN stock market lately?
 
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chinese people are famous of high IQ, but I´m afraid yours is below average.
you ask what exactly can Vietnam offer China?
don´t you realize the fact since more 2,000 years we want to get rid of you, the country called china?

The soap opera have been dragging on too long. Every time the criminal Viet was captured, for some reason the Chinese always let him go. He causes trouble down the road.
Next time it should be the last time. When the Viet criminal is caught again, he should be executed to end the opera.
 
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Hey NiceGuy, how are you man? STill making money in VN stock market lately?
Hj, I'm good, thanks . I've just paid the rest amount of the apartment I bought 3 years ago in Ho Chi Minh city (it is built later than 2 years due to economy crisis, the price is abt 30,000 USD for 60 square meters in district 7 ), and a woman rent it wt abt 170 US/month ( 120 to 170 USD is equal wt 1 month salary of the worker in HCM city), so I dont have much left to play stock. Good news for VN real estate in HCM city is that it is recovering now.

anyway, VN stock is fluctuating around 600 point, it may go up in Q4, so invest in some stable stocks like ITA, DRH , DLG r not so risky :D
 
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