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Well, for what it's worth, there are many claimants to the islands and Vietnam currently holds the most islands. I don't think China's buildup in those islands will lead to a war to take the other islands by force. China just wants power projection in order to make sure its sea lanes are not cut by the US navy if there is a war. Building up bases on the islands it already holds is already sufficient to achieve that.



I agree that China's growth cannot last forever, but it is overly optimistic to think that China won't become the world's largest economy. It's urbanization rate is only 60% and still growing. This is the first generation of young people in China's history that will have wide access to college education, thus improving production.

There is no way that China's GDP per capita will always be 1/6th of the US or 1/4th of Taiwan or HK. Eventually China will become a larger economy than the US, but its per capita GDP may never catch up, it may stall when it is at 1/3rd the size of the US for example, but by that time, it may be 30-40% larger.

China's economy has definitely been catching up to the US in the last 6-7 years when you look at things proportionally.
We have more islands but those are small in size. China holds less islands, but expands them in size. That is very problematic. Worst, chinese claim 90 percent of the seas, and it seems they gradually increase the level of aggression. It’s best, the US stays put. We need more time to military buildup.
 
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i think space weapons are future and with evolution of AI and quantum computing it is not difficult to process information obtained by satellites within seconds,i think china can place weapons on space to destroy f22 from space as well as deploying weapons on earth
Hazrat,

This is like argument for the sake of argument with sweeping generalizations and no substance in it. Weapons are not magic and wars are not like video games. You do not understand how satellites work and the concept of kill chains in warfare. I have given you meaningful pointers in post # 73 but you failed to understand them at a first glance. But there is no rush, take your time.
 
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Flight-test infrastructure within the U.S. Air Force is evolving as a new generation of faster and longer-range air-launched weapons approach a four-year surge of flight-test activity. By 2023, the U.S. Air Force plans to introduce the AGM-183A Air-Launched Rapid Response Weapon and the Hypersonic Conventional Strike Weapon—which boast double-digit Mach numbers and a maximum range measured in the thousands of miles. About 40 hypersonic flight tests, including prototypes ...

http://m.aviationweek.com/missile-d...siles-drive-us-air-force-adopt-new-technology

The US is close to fielding a triad of conventional hypersonic strike weapons. An this is just one example in its modernization portfolio.

In any conflict with the US, China will be defeated. Remember, the US military is not going to invade China, it simply has to deny Chinese objectives. The US just needs some time to fully modernize its forces to fulfill the National Defense Strategy.

AGM-183A “Arrow”

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Those DF-17 missiles look like glass fibre replicas and not mature at all.
 
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The chances of a full blown war between the US and China is pretty low. Iran is a cakewalk compared to China and the US has already been doing everything it can to stop short of attacking Iran. China is a whole different animal.

I do agree that the US is far more militarily powerful right now when you take into account its navy. I don't think China can successfully invade Taiwan at this point either if that means overcoming both the Taiwanese military which is very powerful on its own plus American reinforcements. However, that calculus may change in ten years.

Any war with China will bring about massive casualties and could lead to nuclear war. Because of this, I think the US govt. will stop short of a war against China even as it uses every other tool of political, social and economic disruption to try to slow China's rise.



I'd say the large East and South Asian immigrant tech community is just as responsible for the US being a superpower. They make up the majority of the workforce in Silicon Valley and America's tech industries. If they were to disappear, the US will immediately fall behind China as a tech power within 2-3 years. You're not going to get some rednecks from Indiana and Alabama to do what they have been doing in contributing to America's lead in technology.





Sure America needs indians to be a superpower........:rofl::rofl::rofl:........ when india is the world's biggest open sewer and 1.4 billion indians have NEVER EVER indigenously invented ANY high-tech advanced technologies and sciences........:lol:.......On the other hand the White race of whom the "rednecks" belong to have.....:disagree:....:azn:


Also the indian racial IQ is too low to be an intelligent and quality productive race:

https://brainstats.com/average-iq-by-country.html
 
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We have more islands but those are small in size. China holds less islands, but expands them in size. That is very problematic. Worst, chinese claim 90 percent of the seas, and it seems they gradually increase the level of aggression. It’s best, the US stays put. We need more time to military buildup.

You won't be holding those islands for long.:)
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We have more islands but those are small in size. China holds less islands, but expands them in size. That is very problematic. Worst, chinese claim 90 percent of the seas, and it seems they gradually increase the level of aggression. It’s best, the US stays put. We need more time to military buildup.

I think Vietnam has already started to follow China's example by building up some of the islands. But anyways a balance of power is always best to keep the peace.

China's goal is to become the pre eminent superpower and center of global commerce. Fighting a war with Vietnam not only would not contribute to that goal but will severely disrupt that goal by wasting resources and inviting worldwide condemnation and sanctions. The only major war China would realistically fight is the event of Taiwan declaring independence.

Sure America needs indians to be a superpower........:rofl::rofl::rofl:........ when india is the world's biggest open sewer and 1.4 billion indians have NEVER EVER indigenously invented ANY high-tech advanced technologies and sciences........:lol:.......On the other hand the White race of whom the "rednecks" belong to have.....:disagree:....:azn:


Also the indian racial IQ is too low to be an intelligent and quality productive race:

https://brainstats.com/average-iq-by-country.html
Well, the Indians who are in the US represent the elite so that's not the same. The US tech industry is heavily dependent on immigrants. Take them away and half of its capacity will disappear overnight that means that the US will lose its edge over China.
 
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It's real and in service. Time for you indians to accept reality.:rofl:


It is something of an open secret that China has been developing hypersonic boost-glide vehicles for some time now. The appearance of 16 mockups of the DF-17, the first time this weapon has been shown in any format, at the parade only drove home Chinese ambitions in this regard.

The DF-17, which has reportedly been in testing since at least 2017, uses the rocket booster from the already operational DF-16B short-range ballistic missile. On top, instead of a traditional warhead, however, is an unpowered hypersonic boost-glide vehicle, which reports have previously referred to as the DF-ZF or WU-14.

The shape of the vehicle on the mockup DF-17 missiles in the parade was, not surprisingly, similar, if not identical to a wind tunnel model, footage of which appeared on Chinese state television in 2017. It also looks very much like vehicles involved in an apparent high-altitude drop test in northwestern China in 2018. Chinese testing of earlier hypersonic boost-glide vehicles dates back to at least 2014.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zo...inas-massive-70th-anniversary-military-parade

The DF-17s shown at the parade are indeed mockups. Not actual weapon systems...

LOL you might find out one day how mature the missiles are.



Fool got banned LOL

Those DF-17s are mockups. Those are clearly not mature weapon systems.
 
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It is something of an open secret that China has been developing hypersonic boost-glide vehicles for some time now. The appearance of 16 mockups of the DF-17, the first time this weapon has been shown in any format, at the parade only drove home Chinese ambitions in this regard.

The DF-17, which has reportedly been in testing since at least 2017, uses the rocket booster from the already operational DF-16B short-range ballistic missile. On top, instead of a traditional warhead, however, is an unpowered hypersonic boost-glide vehicle, which reports have previously referred to as the DF-ZF or WU-14.

The shape of the vehicle on the mockup DF-17 missiles in the parade was, not surprisingly, similar, if not identical to a wind tunnel model, footage of which appeared on Chinese state television in 2017. It also looks very much like vehicles involved in an apparent high-altitude drop test in northwestern China in 2018. Chinese testing of earlier hypersonic boost-glide vehicles dates back to at least 2014.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zo...inas-massive-70th-anniversary-military-parade

The DF-17s shown at the parade are indeed mockups. Not actual weapon systems...



Those DF-17s are mockups. Those are clearly not mature weapon systems.

Like I said, you will find out soon enough.
 
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Whether or not the actual thing on parade is a mockup, I do not know. But all equipment in the parade is in active service. This has been officially stated.

Stating something and showing mockups at a parade is one thing...….developing a mature weapon system is a whole different ballgame.
 
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