China Top Source of Counterfeit U.S. Military Electronics

[Jade]

better than 1/50th. The average Chinese has the chance to match a European, but the average European makes more in 1 year than an Indian in an entire lifetime.

Yes, I don't have any clams in agreeing with you, but the better part is Indians have recognized the importance of the economic growth and are improving. India has improved faster in the last 5 years than it has been in its first 60 years. I see it as a good sign

 

[gpit]

So you say communism is better for China than democracy at this stage?

Frankly not decades ago, but Indian example of democracy convinced me as such.

 

[Rafi]

Why is no one criticizing the corrupt pentagon practices.

 

[Jade]

All of the above mentionned democracies evolved differently, their only common trait was that they were not democratic during inudstrialisation and full democracy was established after WWII when illiteracy was eradicated, the median income very high and the economy fully industrialised.

China is not rich, indeed, there are still a few percentage of illiteracy, large parts of western China just started industrialisation and thus to early for democracy.

If that is the case, then there are lot of authoritarian regimes in the world that are lowest in all parameters. Chad is one example and there many. China is an exception

 

[Jinnah]

This is all BS, no body uses commercial parts for military equipment. Most of the semiconductor companies produce military grade components separately. Since most of the semiconductor companies are of US origin and have production facilities in US and other countries like Singapore,Japan and china etc so this article is published for some covert purpose. Hope you understand.....

Two parallel thread running, mods please merge
http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/181572-us-air-force-using-counterfeit-chinese-parts.html

 

[Sashan]

Frankly not decades ago, but Indian example of democracy convinced me as such.

Mate - that is your personal view. My personal view is this - the main reason for poverty in India is due to the communism's poor cousin, socialism. We got rid of communism's poor cousin in 1991 and since then we are on track(as per World bank) to meet the goals for poverty reduction.


Your reforms started in 1979 and ours started in 1991 a whole decade behind. You have 126 million at $1 or below per day(UN defined standards is $1.25 per day or below) . We have 37% below poverty as per UN defined $1.25 per day standards(mind you it is not $1.00 per day which is Chinese standards). Statistics says we add 40 million per year to the middle class from the lower class. That would translate to 400 million people moving away from poverty in 2022 though world bank predicts that we will have 20% population under $1.25 per day.

In short, here is the statistics for you.

1979-2011 - 32 years - poverty left 126 million(just in rural areas) @ $1 per day - China- world bank statistics not published

India's official poverty line doesn't measure up | Jayati Ghosh | Global development | guardian.co.uk

1991 - 2010 - 19 years - poverty left 33% @ 1.25 per day - India - world bank statistics - 350 million roughly

Here is the link for you to play around but if you want the view let me know.

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India adds 40 million to middle class from lower class - world bank projection.


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In 32 years you have 126 million published rural poverty at $1 - so I wonder how much would be your less than $1.25 rate and counting the urban poverty too?

India - in 19 years, 33% or roughly 350 million at $1.25 rate

Imagine in another 10 years, how much poverty we would have ?

So aren't we better off this way? And we doing this without an authoritarian regime controlling our freedom, mind you.

 

[gambit]

This is all BS, no body uses commercial parts for military equipment. Most of the semiconductor companies produce military grade components separately. Since most of the semiconductor companies are of US origin and have production facilities in US and other countries like Singapore,Japan and china etc so this article is published for some covert purpose. Hope you understand.....

Two parallel thread running, mods please merge
http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/181572-us-air-force-using-counterfeit-chinese-parts.html

Some, but not most. My previous employer was Micron Technology, one of the world's premier memory manufacturers. We do have a distinct line strictly for military related orders, but for what we are talking about here are third party components who are suppliers to the military contractors. Other than paying much more money to ensure literally all components are manufactured under strict supervision, there are no practical ways to ensure the supplier is NOT buying Chinese sources.

 

[Anonymous user]

why any topic about China has to end up with hunger deaths in India? Desperation on the Chinese side when there is no counter arguments.. Stop fooling people and for once in life learn how to talk about only topic at hand..

Funny you say that JBond, why don't you reply me on my post #60

Firstly the chips are not counterfeit, their just fake chips relabeled as military and resold. And the article obviously covers more than just China being at fault if anything its.

Pentagon = 50% at fault
Middleman = 30% at fault
China = 20% at fault

Hell the original chipmakers even asked Pentagon to order from them directly (Something that BAE did). Who fault but their if they decided to source from shitty middleman with little clearance.