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China wants india to join without any concerns or etc. india refused China moves on without giving a damn and at the last moment usa & japan join BRF :D . india left alone . hypothetical anti China block :D
cause we were always alone remember NAM ;)

we do not beleive in freebies and so called friendship we try to find our own way or make our own way instead of piggybacking so called bigbrother or all weather friends and we are not botheredwhat other who joined it think why we are not joinning OBOR projects cause
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cause we were always alone remember NAM ;)

we do not beleive in freebies and so called friendship we try to find our own way or make our own way instead of piggybacking so called bigbrother or all weather friends and we are not botheredwhat other who joined it think why we are not joinning OBOR projects cause
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Haha,be your true leader,super power
It is not a big deal, with or without India
 
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Cow or bull.. surely going to hurt indian ego, religiously aswel as....

Why would It hurt India- If Chinese make people focused on earning money than doing Jihad- However It may hurt If corruption takes over and Jobless people feel betrayed and start Jihad-

It's not milking the cow, rather offering yourself on plate to the highest bidder!!

Thats how some people make their living- and Its nothing to be ashamed of when resources are limited-

Your statement is an example of a hissy fit.

Truth can be bitter-
 
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cause we were always alone remember NAM ;)

we do not beleive in freebies and so called friendship we try to find our own way or make our own way instead of piggybacking so called bigbrother or all weather friends and we are not botheredwhat other who joined it think why we are not joinning OBOR projects cause
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Ok.
Then stop selling your ports to usa :D . insecure
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Anyways . what happen with mission isolate Pakistan ?? :laugh::omghaha::sarcastic::rofl:
 
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Modi made the right decision by not participating in the Belt and Road Forum. After 50 years still no connectivity between Lhasa,Tibet and Kolkata, West Bengal
 
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Modi made the right decision by not participating in the Belt and Road Forum. After 50 years still no connectivity between Lhasa,Tibet and Kolkata, West Bengal

LOL India is all talk. Without American call center jobs it would have no future.
 
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India skips China's Silk Road summit, warns of 'unsustainable' debt
By Reuters
Published: May 14, 2017
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A paramilitary policemen secures the venue of the Belt and Road Forum in Beijing, China, May 14, 2017. PHOTO: REUTERS

NEW DELHI: India has not sent an official delegation to attend the “Belt and Road Forum” in Beijing and instead criticized China’s global initiative, warning of an “unsustainable debt burden” for countries involved.

Chinese President Xi Jinping is hosting dozens of world leaders and senior officials on Sunday for the country’s biggest diplomatic showcase of the year, touting his vision of a new “Silk Road” that opens trade routes across the globe.

Government officials from New Delhi did not travel, Indian officials said, although scholars from Indian think-tanks have flown to Beijing to attend some of the meetings at the forum.

China stresses security needs for new Silk Road initiative

Indian foreign ministry spokesperson Gopal Baglay, asked whether New Delhi was participating in the summit, said India could not accept a project that compromised its sovereignty.
India is incensed that one of the key Belt and Road projects passes through Pakistan.
“No country can accept a project that ignores its core concerns on sovereignty and territorial integrity,” Baglay said.

Ambition to meet reality as China gathers world for Silk Road summit
He also warned of the danger of debt. One of the criticisms of the Silk Road plan is that host countries may struggle to pay back loans for huge infrastructure projects being carried out and funded by Chinese companies and banks.
“Connectivity initiatives must follow principles of financial responsibility to avoid projects that would create unsustainable debt burden for communities,” Baglay said.
New Delhi’s criticism of the Belt and Road initiative came as Xi pledged $124 billion to the plan, and called for the abandonment of old models based on rivalry and diplomatic power games.
Leaders from 29 countries and ministerial delegates from many more are attending the forum in Beijing, including Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Nepal.

Baglay said India supported greater connectivity across the region and listed the initiatives it was involved in, including highway projects and the North-South corridor in Central Asia, but he said these had to be developed in a transparent manner.
“We are of firm belief that connectivity initiatives must be based on universally recognized international norms, good governance, rule of law, openness, transparency and equality,” he said in a statement.

As well as the corridor through Pakistan, India is worried more broadly about China’s economic and diplomatic expansion through Asia, and in particular across countries and waterways that it considers to be its sphere of influence.
 
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India skips China's Silk Road summit, warns of 'unsustainable' debt
By Reuters
Published: May 14, 2017
1409629-reuters-1494748905-991-640x480.jpg

A paramilitary policemen secures the venue of the Belt and Road Forum in Beijing, China, May 14, 2017. PHOTO: REUTERS

NEW DELHI: India has not sent an official delegation to attend the “Belt and Road Forum” in Beijing and instead criticized China’s global initiative, warning of an “unsustainable debt burden” for countries involved.

Chinese President Xi Jinping is hosting dozens of world leaders and senior officials on Sunday for the country’s biggest diplomatic showcase of the year, touting his vision of a new “Silk Road” that opens trade routes across the globe.

Government officials from New Delhi did not travel, Indian officials said, although scholars from Indian think-tanks have flown to Beijing to attend some of the meetings at the forum.

China stresses security needs for new Silk Road initiative

Indian foreign ministry spokesperson Gopal Baglay, asked whether New Delhi was participating in the summit, said India could not accept a project that compromised its sovereignty.
India is incensed that one of the key Belt and Road projects passes through Pakistan.
“No country can accept a project that ignores its core concerns on sovereignty and territorial integrity,” Baglay said.

Ambition to meet reality as China gathers world for Silk Road summit
He also warned of the danger of debt. One of the criticisms of the Silk Road plan is that host countries may struggle to pay back loans for huge infrastructure projects being carried out and funded by Chinese companies and banks.
“Connectivity initiatives must follow principles of financial responsibility to avoid projects that would create unsustainable debt burden for communities,” Baglay said.
New Delhi’s criticism of the Belt and Road initiative came as Xi pledged $124 billion to the plan, and called for the abandonment of old models based on rivalry and diplomatic power games.
Leaders from 29 countries and ministerial delegates from many more are attending the forum in Beijing, including Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Nepal.

Baglay said India supported greater connectivity across the region and listed the initiatives it was involved in, including highway projects and the North-South corridor in Central Asia, but he said these had to be developed in a transparent manner.
“We are of firm belief that connectivity initiatives must be based on universally recognized international norms, good governance, rule of law, openness, transparency and equality,” he said in a statement.

As well as the corridor through Pakistan, India is worried more broadly about China’s economic and diplomatic expansion through Asia, and in particular across countries and waterways that it considers to be its sphere of influence.

Sounds like to me India is having a case of sour grapes.
 
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India is surrounded by sea on three sides, it's really unnecessary for India to connect to other countries since India is already connected with Pakistan, Bangladesh on land. It's understandable that India is not interested in OBOR.

Indian's concern over Kashmir also make sense, however it's very easy to work around, in the worst case by postpone the 1 or 2 projects in Kashmir or simply develop these projects by Pakistan's own money, no more than 1 billion dollars I estimate. Then how India argue over CPEC again? I don't know how this argue would end.

CPEC is primarily for domestic economy development of Pakistan, rapid growth economy can help to resolve lots of internal issue, e.g. stability of Baluchistan. Lots of analysts emphasize on connection to western part of China, Xinjiang, however, this is most likely impractical, I'm not saying it does not work, Karakoram Highway was initially built on military purpose at the cost of 1 worker sacrificed per kilometer, you can image how tough was the penetration into the convergence of Hindu Kush, Himalaya and Pamirs back then. Along with service of Y20, this road has few meaning for military purpose. In 2010, an earthquake blocked the road for 5 years. This road basically only work smoothly in summer. Railway ? Forget it. The following are some picture of Karakoram Highway:

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The following picture is transporting by boat after the earthquake in 2010, Gilgit Baltistan.

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The following picture is the road fixed in 2015 to work around the lake formed in earthquake in 2010.

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Before earthquake, there was roughly 3000 trucks cargo enter Pakistan thru this road per year, between 2010 - 2015, the number reduced to 600-700 trucks per year.

I spend so much to address the following issue or concern:
1) Transport oil and gas via this road? it's impossible.
2) Large volume cargos from Xinjiang? it's impossible, not to mention southern Xinjiang has few induestries and only 10 million residents. You can image the price of these goods.
this road does help people in Gilgit Baltistan to make them have job and business opportunity in some extent.

Pakistan and China signed FTA in 2006, effectively kicked off in 2007, there's no issue of Chinese goods flooding into Pakistan for reason of CPEC, it's already there before CPEC by sea route.

Energy and goods transportation through this routine is not core of CPEC. Many projects are invested in Baluchistan where is one of the core direction. The economy development of Baluchistan is ignored or postponed for a long time due to political issue. The economy development of this region require an infrastructure like Gwadar port. I still don't fully understand how Gwadar port is used. An obvious fact is, Baluchistan is rich in mineral resource, and near Persian Gulf, the oil and gas region. Pakistan probably develop mineral and refined oil and chemical industry in Baluchistan, fishing and fruit agriculture is also a good direction.

Most industries of Pakistan exist in Sindh and Punjab which are traditionally wealthy provinces, these projects will help resolve electricity shortage and boost its industrialization.

If we examine the map, take Pakistan as the center, the left side is Iran, 80 million population, 85% literate rate, has a relatively decent industry compared with countries of this region, already has an upper hand. The right side is India, 1.3 billion people roughly same GDP per capita as Pakistan, India has better industry compare with Pakistan however India is still a service orientated economy, India has to speed up industry development to achieve higher and faster growth. BD, a nation with 160 million people, lots of infrastructure projects are ongoing and its economy is doing pretty good in the past few years. The south side is East Africa, China is investing in Ethiopia to build infrastructure and industrial park, the far east side is SEA which is also attracting investment from all over the world. In short, Pakistan need shift focus on domestic economy development to boost its industrialization otherwise, Pakistan would have to face fierce competition in the future, this is also same for India. From East Africa to SEA, this region is the area subcontinent can directly trade either by land or by sea, any country fall behind will have to pay a much higher price to catch up.
We would like to interact more with a real good Chinese like you. Most of the Chinese here tow pakistani line, some are even Pakistani false flaggers. Come and visit some Indian defence forums...
 
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