China to build second, larger carrier for fighter jets: report

[Zero_wing]

I agree with this guy. Except for the fact that it's Philippine's water or Malay's water. It belongs to the strong, and wouldn't you know it, is China.

Though I will say this, God is fair in that if you don't want to be bullied, you could work out and learn CQC. If you don't want to be looked down you could wear Prada and drive a Lambo.

If you got the stomach for self strengthening, because let me tell you at the start of the "Chinese Miracle," the West was taking advantage of China left, right and in the rear. It wasn't a miracle, it was built on blood, sweat and the tears of countless Chinese.

Philippines is roughly the size of Japan with the same population sort of, if you want it, strengthen yourself. Japan almost succeeded in WW2 against not only China, Asia, but almost US too all at the same time. So it's not out of the realm of possibility that Philippine could become a dominate world power.

I swear to you, if Philippines ever becomes the Strongman of the SCS and beyond, and wants to conquer China or take Chinese interests, I won't complain to you.

Wow that's just stupid logic i have ever header ever can you guys come up with ore logical sense and this why we make fun of you hey false flagger is this the people your defending? See that's why you don't want UN because if you do this its going to be epic fail, well at less your smart enough to know that am so sorry we live 21st century and we have rules in this century we are not uncivilized so please keep your ways to yourselves.

 

[Genesis]

Wow that's just stupid see that's why you don't want attribution because if you do its epic fail well at less your smart enough to know that am so sorry we live 21st century and we have rules in this century we are not uncivilized so please keep your ways to yourselves.

Rules needs to be enforced, people follow the law because there is the police, however, there are times when someone like the US now can go beyond the rules.

Also, maybe you been in US too long, but I have never lacked a glorious reason to do anything. You can justify anything, as long as you know how.

It doesn't have to be a solid reason or a logical reason, there just needs to be one. As long as you can back it up with force. China can provoke the Philippines enough for it to strike first, looking at the current behavior of the Philippines it is entirely possible or even expected.

How solid will your rules be when China is raining shells and missiles on your shore. The only way for your rules to work is if you can defend yourself. China has learned that the hard way.

Don't give me the 21st century argument, people are just as greedy now as we are then. Perhaps we have to mask ourselves a little more, but it is nothing but a wolf wearing a sheep skin.

 

[Zero_wing]

Wow again my point it prove and strike with what? our two Inchoen class is still being made our FA50s are still being made too and our Goyo class is still in states being re armed and we never strike first and if we did with with just like Russia have done to your pirates and your poachers you will do nothing we are humane will never do that they just get nice cold bath and arrest for intruding on Filipino waters and if they cough anything if its just normal trade it will give to the locals you stole from and if you killed endanger species your clowns are going to jail see humane not like china if you were overrun they abuse you with words and b.o and physical then they lock you for fishing on your own waters just ask the Vietnamese and the Filipino fisher folks who have the unfortunate timing to be hunted by Chinese pirates or worse shot at which common method use by chinses pirates and and its the PGC jurisdiction so the Navy and Airforce is just back Just in case you use military force they been escorting our fishermen and handling your aggressive pirates and poachers and two of the ten ships from Japan that was given to us under soft loan is coming so please tell those pirates and poachers to bring soap and shampoo because will being spraying them with nice cold sea water (because soap and shampoo is not included) will at less you be clean and smelling like civilized men when we lock them up.

By the way that's the true if you don't like its your business but that's the truth if you continue to insist on your childish tantrums its fine go ahead . we have a saying here kahit ano gawin mo baliktarin mo man ng mundo ang mali ay mali ng tama ay tama (No Matter what you do even if you turn the world upside down, what is wrong is wrong what is right is right)

 

[Fsjal]

Oh please tell me sir why is china modernized so much? no one is attacking them they started this to keep their people minds out of the problems at home? Fantasies my foot sir this a military forum and big developments like this is being analysis and research build a second aircraft carrier and continues military present next to the doors of other country and strengthening of its bases next to said countries is called preparation for war Hitter has done this Imperial Japan us done. So tell me who make things up us said it yourself that "what was china going in Filipino waters in the other post even admitted that Chinese regardless of civilian or not its still on filipino waters? and to add to that the continued military activities of china on edge of this countries last month china was just 80milies from Malaysia tell me is that still part of Chinese territory? so then defend your beloved china what were they doing in Malaysian waters with huge military force did Malaysia invite them there to make drills or they let themselves in why do you think everybody is modernizing now thanks to china's aggressive modernization why do you think so sir.

Do your self a favor and play with your dolls Jake the human wanna be !

The reason why China is modernizing their military is because of the US pivot. People like you are ignorant to understand. China has been oppressed by the West during the Qing Dynasty. Now, China is rising like a Pheonix from an ash.

Go back to you to your hole, troll

Wow again my point it prove and strike with what? our two Inchoen class is still being made our FA50s are still being made too and our Goyo class is still in states being re armed and we never strike first and if we did with with just like Russia have done to your pirates and your poachers you will do nothing we are humane will never do that they just get nice cold bath and arrest for intruding on Filipino waters and if they cough anything if its just normal trade it will give to the locals you stole from and if you killed endanger species your clowns are going to jail see humane not like china if you were overrun they abuse you with words and b.o and physical then they lock you for fishing on your own waters just ask the Vietnamese and the Filipino fisher folks who have the unfortunate timing to be hunted by Chinese pirates or worse shot at which common method use by chinses pirates and and its the PGC jurisdiction so the Navy and Airforce is just back Just in case you use military force they been escorting our fishermen and handling your aggressive pirates and poachers and two of the ten ships from Japan that was given to us under soft loan is coming so please tell those pirates and poachers to bring soap and shampoo because will being spraying them with nice cold sea water (because soap and shampoo is not included) will at less you be clean and smelling like civilized men when we lock them up.

By the way that's the true if you don't like its your business but that's the truth if you continue to insist on your childish tantrums its fine go ahead . we have a saying here kahit ano gawin mo baliktarin mo man ng mundo ang mali ay mali ng tama ay tama (No Matter what you do even if you turn the world upside down, what is wrong is wrong what is right is right)

OUR? Dude, we lack experience in building these stuff, also, they are Korean. Fools like you are blind and ignorant.
OVERNATIONALISTIC PEOPLE THESE DAYS

 

[Genesis]

Wow again my point it prove and strike with what? our two Inchoen class is still being made our FA50s are still being made too and our Goyo class is still in states being re armed and we never strike first and if we did with with just like Russia have done to your pirates and your poachers you will do nothing we are humane will never do that they just get nice cold bath and arrest for intruding on Filipino waters and if they cough anything if its just normal trade it will give to the locals you stole from and if you killed endanger species your clowns are going to jail see humane not like china if you were overrun they abuse you with words and b.o and physical then they lock you for fishing on your own waters just ask the Vietnamese and the Filipino fisher folks who have the unfortunate timing to be hunted by Chinese pirates or worse shot at which common method use by chinses pirates and and its the PGC jurisdiction so the Navy and Airforce is just back Just in case you use military force they been escorting our fishermen and handling your aggressive pirates and poachers and two of the ten ships from Japan that was given to us under soft loan is coming so please tell those pirates and poachers to bring soap and shampoo because will being spraying them with nice cold sea water (because soap and shampoo is not included) will at less you be clean and smelling like civilized men when we lock them up.

By the way that's the true if you don't like its your business but that's the truth if you continue to insist on your childish tantrums its fine go ahead . we have a saying here kahit ano gawin mo baliktarin mo man ng mundo ang mali ay mali ng tama ay tama (No Matter what you do even if you turn the world upside down, what is wrong is wrong what is right is right)

You remind me exactly as the old Nationalist government of China, complaining day and night that this is illegal and that is illegal when in the end, the only thing illegal is they took Chinese taxes and failed to protect its people.

If you want to be right be right. I rather be the guy that's wrong with a gun then the guy that's right laying on the ground.

You can keep locking up our fishermen, but if I were you I would ignore them and just work on economy and military. But to each his own.

 

[Zero_wing]

Rules needs to be enforced, people follow the law because there is the police, however, there are times when someone like the US now can go beyond the rules.

Also, maybe you been in US too long, but I have never lacked a glorious reason to do anything. You can justify anything, as long as you know how.

It doesn't have to be a solid reason or a logical reason, there just needs to be one. As long as you can back it up with force. China can provoke the Philippines enough for it to strike first, looking at the current behavior of the Philippines it is entirely possible or even expected.

How solid will your rules be when China is raining shells and missiles on your shore. The only way for your rules to work is if you can defend yourself. China has learned that the hard way.

Don't give me the 21st century argument, people are just as greedy now as we are then. Perhaps we have to mask ourselves a little more, but it is nothing but a wolf wearing a sheep skin.

Oh have you forgot we have MDT with the US? an attack on us is an attack on the US and since you threaten war that's also a violation especially a nation who has use international law to solve the problem peaceful regardless of your propaganda the world will a aggressor invading a peaceful loving country who has follow the rules just to cut the long story short you will lose everything you now enjoy and beside global maritime trade is under unintentionally by Filipinos (one of the producers of seamen the world) think since they can't send money home do you think does people will still work? and it would take months to convince or find works to replace them and since china would be condemn at this point there is no way the said seamen would be replace even if the chinese were allowed this will create problems not just for china but for world trade and not to mention West Philippine Sea is one of the busies world shipping lanes in the world just to name a few problems that your future criminal aggression will cause and believe me there are a lot and if you don't believe theere is a huge US presence here plus we have US forces here meaning if you carry out your threat after the threat is done this guys will give you some love and since American forces are here and so many American and other nationalities and if there was a off chance they got killed or injured who would you think will pay for that? its not going to be the Philippines that's for sure. Will be like South Korea in the Korean war many nation will come to our aid and you be crush that's for sure not even Germany the most powerful country back then won that's why America still have many Allies regardless of her power. So please do so.

 

[armchairPrivate]

Over two hundred years ago, the Chinese thought the world was civilized then, but it was in fact a jungle. China was torn apart by a pack of wolves.

Fast forward to today. The world is still a jungle. All those wolves are weak, only the lead wolf is strong. but can no longer form a pack.

After the Pinoy have been enslaved by the Spaniards and the Amerikans, they still live in the la la land. While they live in the jungle, they thought the world is civilized. I pity you.

 

[Zero_wing]

And you remind of the NPA both of you are Maoist so what your point? and beside the real government of china is the government in Taiwan so legally your leaders are illegal rulers of china but that your own business face it you guys are always wrong here you were wrong then and still is? So the Point of all of this china regardless of what you are today is still a nation of the world and like any other nation you should follow what International Law because its a law otherwise you can do what ever you want in china and if the police try to arrest you tell them rules can be bent and see how that works.

Wow am blind i been advocating peacefully under international law and am blind some logic you have there sir?

 

[tranquilium]

Oh please tell me sir why is china modernized so much? no one is attacking them they started this to keep their people minds out of the problems at home? Fantasies my foot sir this a military forum and big developments like this is being analysis and research build a second aircraft carrier and continues military present next to the doors of other country and strengthening of its bases next to said countries is called preparation for war Hitter has done this Imperial Japan us done. So tell me who make things up us said it yourself that "what was china going in Filipino waters in the other post even admitted that Chinese regardless of civilian or not its still on filipino waters? and to add to that the continued military activities of china on edge of this countries last month china was just 80milies from Malaysia tell me is that still part of Chinese territory? so then defend your beloved china what were they doing in Malaysian waters with huge military force did Malaysia invite them there to make drills or they let themselves in why do you think everybody is modernizing now thanks to china's aggressive modernization why do you think so sir.

Do your self a favor and play with your dolls Jake the human wanna be !

As for why China is getting all the new equipment, it is a major nation thing. Minor countries shouldn't read too much into it.

 

[tranquilium]

Catapult is outdated. With aircraft engine having more thrust. One can take off max weight without the need of catapult. Angle deck and arrestor hook will be enough. China next carrier will be angle deck, nuclear power and weigh around 81,000 tons.

I disagree with the catapult comment. I think while steam powered catapult is outdated, electromagnetic catapult is still very useful.

 

[hurt]

Whaa? I thought aircraft carriers were obsolete.

Why you need Gerald R. Ford-class?
It like tell Libya that you dont need Nuclear weapon.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Catapult is outdated. With aircraft engine having more thrust. One can take off max weight without the need of catapult. Angle deck and arrestor hook will be enough. China next carrier will be angle deck, nuclear power and weigh around 81,000 tons.

China will not give up the EMALS technology, the CVN-003 will feature this technology.

But i do agree with you that CV-001A will look like a larger improved replica of CV-16.

 

[Zero_wing]

Hahaha no reasonable answer not to read my foot dude you have no real enemies and yet you have more weapons now what time of message that sends do you think it well say to folks that am all good while ready to blow your face in? that's a sign of peaceful intentions Ya right

 

[hurt]

Hahaha no reasonable answer not to read my foot dude you have no real enemies and yet you have more weapons now what time of message that sends do you think it well say to folks that am all good while ready to blow your face in? that's a sign of peaceful intentions Ya right

it is like an ant trying to shake a big tree. Filipino maid。

 

[armchairPrivate]

Zero-Wing said the Pinoy has MDT with the US. That is a laugh.

Last year this time, The Pinoy sent their only war to Huangyan Island/Scarborough Shoal/Panatag Shoal to interdict the Chinese boats from leaving.

Today, Huangyan Island/Scarborough Shoal/Panatag Shoal is under the Chinese control. The Pinoy fishermen couldn't go there to fish. The Pinoy navy is nowhere to be seen.

Did the US hear the Pinoy's cries? Yes

Did the US come to Pinoy's rescue? No

Wake up Pinoy! You are being abandoned.

The MDT is good only for cleaning butt holes.