China to announce biggest military budget increase in nearly a decade as Asian arms race heats up

[sweetgrape]

I just wanted to correct you because you claimed "Mao fought the war in VN". No, correct is chinese helped repairing what the US destroyed.

second, no, you are wrong. there was NO such 17 degree line agreement between China and United States. if anything, then it was the threat of the USSR to escalate the war. besides, the US and South VN ground forces made several attempts to invade North VN, however that failed miserably.

You are very "self confident", hehe, really think you are the third strong army in that time, a blind.

If not China and USSR, USA were bound, what they were afraid of are China and USSR, which one more? hehe, who are closed to vietnam? who push US-larmy to 38 degree in Korean war? you think USSR really can stop USA? in Cuban crisis, we know.

Without China and USSR, no constraint on USA force, there would were no VCP, Vietnam also can be unified, but not by VCP.

 

[Viet]

You are very "self confident", hehe, really think you are the third strong army in that time, a blind.

If not China and USSR, USA were bound, what they were afraid of are China and USSR, which one more? hehe, who are closed to vietnam? who push US-larmy to 38 degree in Korean war? you think USSR really can stop USA? in Cuban crisis, we know.

Without China and USSR, no constraint on USA force, there would were no VCP, Vietnam also can be unified, but not by VCP.

I correct the incorrect views and statements. if you say I am "self confident", then it is so. I don´t care.
No, you don´t save Vietnam. Moreover, your dream is to put our people in gas chamber. the few years you helped Vietnam are very short comparing to hundred of years when you actively destroyed Vietnam direct and indirect.

 

[Rechoice]

You are very "self confident", hehe, really think you are the third strong army in that time, a blind.

If not China and USSR, USA were bound, what they were afraid of are China and USSR, which one more? hehe, who are closed to vietnam? who push US-larmy to 38 degree in Korean war? you think USSR really can stop USA? in Cuban crisis, we know.

Without China and USSR, no constraint on USA force, there would were no VCP, Vietnam also can be unified, but not by VCP.

don't forget that China betrayed Soviets and Viets from 1968 to shake hands with USA in cold war. There was big problem for Vietnam in this time. China has nothing to caculate here.

Only Soviets was with Vietnam's side to 1990, to the end of Sino-Vietnam war.

 

[sweetgrape]

I correct the incorrect views and statements. if you say I am "self confident", then it is so. I don´t care.
No, you don´t save Vietnam. Moreover, your dream is to put our people in gas chamber. the few years you helped Vietnam are very short comparing to hundred of years when you actively destroyed Vietnam direct and indirect.

Whether you care or not is not my care, I agree with Abacin, that was proxy war, only one of the player(USA, China & USSR) gave up, you can be unified.

For China, first priority was, USA force can't close to China too much, whether saving you or saving VCP, I don't care, but can sure that it just by products.

Not want you can remeber our help to you, I know you hate China, I have said, if the hatred can't defuse, keep it, it last more than 1000 years, if you 100 million vietnamese don't care, why we 1400 million Chinese should care? the hatred will be endless, or will end one day, let us wait and see,

don't forget that China betrayed Soviets and Viets from 1968 to shake hands with USA in cold war. There was big problem for Vietnam in this time. China has nothing to caculate here.

Only Soviets was with Vietnam's side to 1990, to the end of Sino-Vietnam war.

Hehe, USSR had betray China, if you said we China shaking with USA can see as we betray you, but you keep relation with China, and USSR, you betray China or USSR?

The cold war is between USSR and USA, for me, we and USA were just used mutually, even we shake wit USA, we didn't stop the support to Vietnam, the bottom line still exist, USA can't be closed to China border too much, if they cross the line, China PLA will join the war open and immediately, like Korean war, do you know or agree on these?

What we sacrificing and supply to you are huge, here, I don't expect you Vietnamese accept these and thank us, for me, it is meaningless, especially know what you are, what we did is for our own benefit firstly, if you Vietnam are useless, we China know what should we do

Keep good relation with Russia, but the biggest advantage and disadvantage of Vietnam both are too closed to China, you have fight against it for more 1000 years, I know, this will continue.

 

[Viet]

Whether you care or not is not my care, I agree with Abacin, that was proxy war, only one of the player(USA, China & USSR) gave up, you can be unified.

For China, first priority was, USA force can't close to China too much, whether saving you or saving VCP, I don't care, but can sure that it just by products.

Not want you can remeber our help to you, I know you hate China, I have said, if the hatred can't defuse, keep it, it last more than 1000 years, if you 100 million vietnamese don't care, why we 1400 million Chinese should care? the hatred will be endless, or will end one day, let us wait and see,


Hehe, USSR had betray China, if you said we China shaking with USA can see as we betray you, but you keep relation with China, and USSR, you betray China or USSR?

The cold war is between USSR and USA, for me, we and USA were just used mutually, even we shake wit USA, we didn't stop the support to Vietnam, the bottom line still exist, USA can't be closed to China border too much, if they cross the line, China PLA will join the war open and immediately, like Korean war, do you know or agree on these?

What we sacrificing and supply to you are huge, here, I don't expect you Vietnamese accept these and thank us, for me, it is meaningless, especially know what you are, what we did is for our own benefit firstly, if you Vietnam are useless, we China know what should we do

Keep good relation with Russia, but the biggest advantage and disadvantage of Vietnam both are too closed to China, you have fight against it for more 1000 years, I know, this will continue.

only brainwashed and stupid boy like you thinks it was a proxy war.

for decades, VN fought against enemies from France, to Japan, to America to China to Cambodia to expel them from her soil, defeating the enemies, uniting the country. I haven´t mentioned other foreign armies fighting in VN as Germany, Australia, Korea, Thailand and many more. we paid a huge price, economic development and human lives. now you come and make jokes on it.

Major wars typically involve many powers. when Germany invaded the USSR, the Soviets called on England for help and assistance. in your view, the Soviets were just a pawn, a proxy war between Germany and England.

China provided civil and non-combat assistance. your contribution to North Vietnam war efforts was short lived and insignificant. it was the USSR that provided all the crucial assistances.

the period 1960s, China assisted North Vietnam was even shorter than the period, China attacked Vietnam, killing our people and destroying our country in the 1970s.

in short, your balance is NEGATIVE.

we owe you NOTHING.

you are a typical liar.

you and the likes.

 

[sweetgrape]

only brainwashed and stupid boy like you thinks it was a proxy war.

for decades, VN fought against enemies from France, to Japan, to America to China to Cambodia to expel them from her soil, defeating the enemies, uniting the country. I haven´t mentioned other foreign armies fighting in VN as Germany, Australia, Korea, Thailand and many more. we paid a huge price, economic development and human lives. now you come and make jokes on it.

Major wars typically involve many powers. when Germany invaded the USSR, the Soviets called on England for help and assistance. in your view, the Soviets were just a pawn, a proxy war between Germany and England.

China provided civil and non-combat assistance. your contribution to North Vietnam war efforts was short lived and insignificant. it was the USSR that provided all the crucial assistances.

the period 1960s, China assisted North Vietnam was even shorter than the period, China attacked Vietnam, killing our people and destroying our country in the 1970s.

in short, your balance is NEGATIVE.

we owe you NOTHING.

you are a typical liar.

you and the likes.

Seems you are very mad, you really care, hehe, calm down

Whether I am brainwashed, I don't know, when I enter into the world, I always suck the information from the world, the information is not took by myself, but a Vietnamese say I am brainwashed, don't know why, it is very funny,

And, you still that self confident, hee. Whether it is proxy war? I think it depend on, except the power that fight directly, whether there are other strong power that can decide ther direction of the affair. In Korean, first NK invaded SK, then USA join, push SK near to China border, then China join, you know the result, In Vietnam, USA deploy huge army force in Vietnam, If they want, they Can't push you to near the China border or sea? you really think you are that strong encough, hehe.

You said I make joke on you vietnamese, hehe, so what kind of joke you make on China? yes, you are brave, but not braveness can solve anything,

The example you took is a joke, think it twice,

What China gave to you in Vietnam war is not just material support, there are something more important than it, I don't know whether you can understand, think it with brain, but in you head, there are too much China hatred, I doubt you can understand

I am talking the support we gave to you in Vietnam war, you drag the period we kick you, you are that proud and diginified, you should refuse China support, why you let a more than 1000 years enemy help you?

Yes, for you I am liar, I and my likes don't care,

 

[xunzi]

you don´t know the fact:

the Vietnam war escalated to a full confrontation, reaching the boiling point in 1972. but following the Sino-USSR political crisis in the late 1950s, your relation to the Soviets finally came to the breakdown in 1965, China stopped all supports and assistance to North Vietnam. do you see the time gap?

besides, China wanted to fight to the last Vietnamese, not to help Vietnam to win the war.

as for conquering TW, I wish you all the best. I suggest you to study what it needs to launch a successful invasion ashore. a good example is how the Allies landed on the Normandy in the WW II.

as for your thoughts regarding to the US, Japan and Philippines reactions, you make too much positive assumptions. a small wind gust will blow all of your assumptions away.

I don't care if you don't want to give us any credit for helping you in the Vietnam War, but stop lying about the facts. We never stop shipping of weapons and aids to you until the war was over. Our weapons continue to ship you in the latter period of the war, albeit,not as high as those during the early 60s because the Sino-Soviet split. Though, facts remain, we ship weapons to you. I have showed you that a long time ago.

 

[Jlaw]

Photo: People's Liberation Army soldiers at a 2015 military parade to mark the 70th anniversary of the end of World
War II ......(Reuters: Damir Sagolj)

China is expected to announce its biggest military budget increase in nearly a decade in the next couple of days, fuelled by increasing tensions in the South China Sea and the need for the latest weaponry.

The increase is set to worry countries in the region, who see the massive rise as a driver for an Asian arms race.

China's military insiders say the budget could increase by up to 20 per cent. Last year the budget was $200 billion.

"The Chinese Government is not only determined but capable of continuously increasing the military budget," Professor Shi Yinhong from the Renmin University of China said.

"In the arms race in the Western Pacific, China wants to close the gap with the US."

The increase will fund a massive reform program, which will make the People's Liberation Army a meaner and leaner fighting machine.

The world's largest army has cut 300,000 soldiers and money is needed to pay them out.

On top of this, to keep morale and loyalty up, President Xi Jinping will hand out a pay rise.

But the lion's share of the budget will have been spent on updating and modernising China's weaponry.

"The most expensive part will be the advanced weapon systems — the missile systems," Professor Shi Yinhong said.

"If we describe China's defence expenditure as a sword, the sharp point are these systems."

Tensions in the South China Sea are also driving the increase, and much of the modernisation drive will be directed into China's navy, which is critical to enforcing territorial claims.

Regional countries fear the massive increase in China's armed forces will further fuel an Asian arms race.

The US has said it will step up its patrols in the area, and has warned China that its increasing militarisation of the South China Sea will have consequences.

China maintains it is just looking after its interests and is ready to respond..

Hawks driving policy on both sides

Jia Qingguo, a professor of international relations from Peking University, said the problem was that hawks from both sides were now in control.

"China is a rising power. The US is an established power," Professor Qingguo said.

"These two can't get along peacefully so, ultimately, there will be a confrontation. People are pushing this argument, and its affecting the choices of the governments."

Professor Yinhong said China's position on the South China Sea could not be moved.

"The South China Sea is vast," he said.

"China's determination is very strong. As Xi Jinping said, we will not lose one inch of the land left by our ancestors — so China will invest more."

The details of China's military increase will be released at the National People's Congress in the coming days.


Source : abc

Not even close to the US military budget of over $600 billion

Good start though

 

[70U63]

Of course it was a proxy war. No wonder human race keep making same mistake because some of them never learn from the history.

only brainwashed and stupid boy like you thinks it was a proxy war

 

[jkroo]

But the increasing rate is slowing down, we need 2-3% of GDP of last year for military budget, that means 260-360 billion is rational.

 

[retaxis]

Vietnam is just a pawn like Syria. Anytime China and America can destabilise the country and support various factions e.g democratic/freedom sects against the party. If Vietnam behaves itself then nothing will happen, if they do not maybe China will decide to rule Vietnam for another 1000years. Don't act like u are anything more than an Iraq or am Afghanistan. Your a pawn who can be sacrificed at any time so do not talk like you call the shots boy

 

[Aepsilons]

But the increasing rate is slowing down, we need 2-3% of GDP of last year for military budget, that means 260-360 billion is rational.

$260-$360 Billion. So roughly around half of America's. Not bad at all.

Impressive.

 

[jkroo]

$260-$360 Billion. So roughly around half of America's. Not bad at all.

Impressive.

China's GDP is about 70 percent of America's but the military budget is about 26%. More room for the budget.

Of course we also have other important business to invest. It's OK for me for the higher rate of budget if it doesn't bring burden to the economy and people's living conditions.

 

[Beidou2020]

China's GDP is about 70 percent of America's but the military budget is about 26%. More room for the budget.

Of course we also have other important business to invest. It's OK for me for the higher rate of budget if it doesn't bring burden to the economy and people's living conditions.

Either the CPC is petrified of increasing the military budget or the Chinese GDP is significantly overstated.

Something is wrong here.

 

[jkroo]

Either the CPC is petrified of increasing the military budget or the Chinese GDP is significantly overstated.

Something is wrong here.

China's GDP could be trusted if you caculated the macroeconomic data. Concentrate on economy development is OK.

But the increasing rate is less than last year that could be a question.

Many military fans in domestic forums even talk about the military lottery. Many of them do worry about the military budget.

We should be confident for China's military development for the R&D and construction process is already on the track.

Time will tell.