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China Spreading Misinformation About COVID's Origins As WHO Investigation Lingers

This is the very beginning information about the virus. Any new virus or any new thing need a process to be studied and approved. You'd better keep open-mind, you know, if you keep on following the WHO twitter, you would find the information updated very quickly later.
Do you remember when your medias were talking about the doctor of *whistler*, obviously your medias and government didn't focus on the right aspect of the risk. Pay attention to the virus itself but not what else, you may have a better situation now.

So This is what you are saying, don't trust info from WHO/china. Do your own analysis.
What investigation they block???
Why don't you read the news

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The delay in the release of the genome stalled the recognition of its spread to other countries, along with the global development of tests, drugs and vaccines. The lack of detailed patient data also made it harder to determine how quickly the virus was spreading — a critical question in stopping it.

Between the day the full genome was first decoded by a government lab on Jan. 2 and the day WHO declared a global emergency on Jan. 30, the outbreak spread by a factor of 100 to 200 times, according to retrospective infection data from the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention.
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So This is what you are saying, don't trust info from WHO/china. Do your own analysis.

Why don't you read the news

Keep open-minded dear, spend your time in meaningful things. You are not dumb, but you didn't use your time and energy for meaningful thing.
 
Why don't you read the news
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The delay in the release of the genome stalled the recognition of its spread to other countries, along with the global development of tests, drugs and vaccines. The lack of detailed patient data also made it harder to determine how quickly the virus was spreading — a critical question in stopping it.

Between the day the full genome was first decoded by a government lab on Jan. 2 and the day WHO declared a global emergency on Jan. 30, the outbreak spread by a factor of 100 to 200 times, according to retrospective infection data from the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention.
propaganda by USA media, can you give the link from UN or WHO source???
 
propaganda by USA media, can you give the link from UN or WHO source???
So now you don't believe any news outlets.

 
So now you don't believe any news outlets.
I need it from original source, do you have any source directly from WHO website, and i don't believe on either US media on Chinese issues or Chinese media on US issues, i want it from ORIGINAL AND REAL SOURCE, if you have, i want it from neutral source
 
Some people just lack a sense of social responsibility and self-discipline.

When they face a challenge, they tend to quickly fall apart and disintegrate socially.

How will these societies be able to deal with a larger threat such as war?

If pigs could fly and rambos could save the day... Not in real world.

Pandemic has shown how fragile some societies are.
Those people getting what they deserved.:suicide::suicide::suicide:

Nothing more

Nothing less :pleasantry: :pleasantry::pleasantry:
China provided all the information it had at the time.

This helped early release of the virus genome.

US, India and the likes hid their cases, or were incompetent to discover early.

Your virus had months to mutate and get stronger.

Now you are besieged by virus, completely surrendered. It is a direct outcome of your government incompetency or outright corruption.

Countries/regions taking early precautions are better off now. If India was so innocent and abused by big bad China because China did not inform early, why South Korea had enough time.

China informed SK earlier than poor innocent India and daddy US?

Sorry, you have to face and admit your own incompetency. Noone will assume it for you.


To be fair to India, India prepared very early. :-):-):-)

Stockpiling cow dung and cow urine and spending time and money to prepare vaccine based on cowdung and cow urine.:yay:


But for that to work, they needed to get Holy Vedic chanting into the vaccine.
That was their stumbling block and cannot blame Indians for that stumbling block.
:rofl::rofl::rofl:
 
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So This is what you are saying, don't trust info from WHO/china. Do your own analysis.

Why don't you read the news

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The delay in the release of the genome stalled the recognition of its spread to other countries, along with the global development of tests, drugs and vaccines. The lack of detailed patient data also made it harder to determine how quickly the virus was spreading — a critical question in stopping it.

Between the day the full genome was first decoded by a government lab on Jan. 2 and the day WHO declared a global emergency on Jan. 30, the outbreak spread by a factor of 100 to 200 times, according to retrospective infection data from the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention.
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The virus was spreading for much earlier. Countries like US and India either were incompetent or corrupt to detect early cases.

They passed early cases (as early as September 2019) as common flu.

BIG mistake or cover up.

If China did not do the hard work, we would be much worse shape now.

China's regular sharing of information about the outbreak with the WHO and individual states/regions began on Jan. 3, 2020. We in Taiwan region received data from early January.

From Jan. 3, China began to inform the US of the outbreak and measures.

On Jan. 11, the China CDC uploaded five whole genome sequences of the novel coronavirus on its website and shared data with the world.

WHO says it.

If you are in a bad shape now, blame yourself. You have an incompetent government and lack social responsibility.
 
The virus was spreading for much earlier. Countries like US and India either were incompetent or corrupt to detect early cases.

Yet, they passed early cases (as early as September 2019) as common flue.

If China did not do the hard work, we would be much worse shape now.

China's regular sharing of information about the outbreak with the WHO and individual states/regions began on Jan. 3, 2020.

From Jan. 3, China began to inform the US of the outbreak and measures.

On Jan. 11, the China CDC uploaded five whole genome sequences of the novel coronavirus on its website and shared data with the world.

WHO says it.

If you are in a bad shape now, blame yourself. You have an incompetent government and lack social responsibility.
Those people getting what they deserved.:suicide::suicide::suicide:

Nothing more

Nothing less :pleasantry: :pleasantry::pleasantry:
 
Can't trust any one in this game:-

Millions were in germ war tests | Politics | The Guardian


Millions were in germ war tests
This article is more than 18 years old
Much of Britain was exposed to bacteria sprayed in secret trials


Antony Barnett, public affairs editor
Sun 21 Apr 2002 05.23 EDT

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A government report just released provides for the first time a comprehensive official history of Britain's biological weapons trials between 1940 and 1979.

Many of these tests involved releasing potentially dangerous chemicals and micro-organisms over vast swaths of the population without the public being told.

While details of some secret trials have emerged in recent years, the 60-page report reveals new information about more than 100 covert experiments.

The report reveals that military personnel were briefed to tell any 'inquisitive inquirer' the trials were part of research projects into weather and air pollution.

The tests, carried out by government scientists at Porton Down, were designed to help the MoD assess Britain's vulnerability if the Russians were to have released clouds of deadly germs over the country.
In most cases, the trials did not use biological weapons but alternatives which scientists believed would mimic germ warfare and which the MoD claimed were harmless. But families in certain areas of the country who have children with birth defects are demanding a public inquiry.
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One chapter of the report, 'The Fluorescent Particle Trials', reveals how between 1955 and 1963 planes flew from north-east England to the tip of Cornwall along the south and west coasts, dropping huge amounts of zinc cadmium sulphide on the population. The chemical drifted miles inland, its fluorescence allowing the spread to be monitored. In another trial using zinc cadmium sulphide, a generator was towed along a road near Frome in Somerset where it spewed the chemical for an hour.

While the Government has insisted the chemical is safe, cadmium is recognised as a cause of lung cancer and during the Second World War was considered by the Allies as a chemical weapon.

In another chapter, 'Large Area Coverage Trials', the MoD describes how between 1961 and 1968 more than a million people along the south coast of England, from Torquay to the New Forest, were exposed to bacteria including e.coli and bacillus globigii , which mimics anthrax. These releases came from a military ship, the Icewhale, anchored off the Dorset coast, which sprayed the micro-organisms in a five to 10-mile radius.

The report also reveals details of the DICE trials in south Dorset between 1971 and 1975. These involved US and UK military scientists spraying into the air massive quantities of serratia marcescens bacteria, with an anthrax simulant and phenol.

Similar bacteria were released in 'The Sabotage Trials' between 1952 and 1964. These were tests to determine the vulnerability of large government buildings and public transport to attack. In 1956 bacteria were released on the London Underground at lunchtime along the Northern Line between Colliers Wood and Tooting Broadway. The results show that the organism dispersed about 10 miles. Similar tests were conducted in tunnels running under government buildings in Whitehall.

Experiments conducted between 1964 and 1973 involved attaching germs to the threads of spiders' webs in boxes to test how the germs would survive in different environments. These tests were carried out in a dozen locations across the country, including London's West End, Southampton and Swindon. The report also gives details of more than a dozen smaller field trials between 1968 and 1977.

In recent years, the MoD has commissioned two scientists to review the safety of these tests. Both reported that there was no risk to public health, although one suggested the elderly or people suffering from breathing illnesses may have been seriously harmed if they inhaled sufficient quantities of micro-organisms.

However, some families in areas which bore the brunt of the secret tests are convinced the experiments have led to their children suffering birth defects, physical handicaps and learning difficulties.

David Orman, an army officer from Bournemouth, is demanding a public inquiry. His wife, Janette, was born in East Lulworth in Dorset, close to where many of the trials took place. She had a miscarriage, then gave birth to a son with cerebral palsy. Janette's three sisters, also born in the village while the tests were being carried out, have also given birth to children with unexplained problems, as have a number of their neighbours.

The local health authority has denied there is a cluster, but Orman believes otherwise. He said: 'I am convinced something terrible has happened. The village was a close-knit community and to have so many birth defects over such a short space of time has to be more than coincidence.'

Successive governments have tried to keep details of the germ warfare tests secret. While reports of a number of the trials have emerged over the years through the Public Records Office, this latest MoD document - which was released to Liberal Democrat MP Norman Baker - gives the fullest official version of the biological warfare trials yet.

Baker said: 'I welcome the fact that the Government has finally released this information, but question why it has taken so long. It is unacceptable that the public were treated as guinea pigs without their knowledge, and I want to be sure that the Ministry of Defence's claims that these chemicals and bacteria used were safe is true.'

The MoD report traces the history of the UK's research into germ warfare since the Second World War when Porton Down produced five million cattle cakes filled with deadly anthrax spores which would have been dropped in Germany to kill their livestock. It also gives details of the infamous anthrax experiments on Gruinard on the Scottish coast which left the island so contaminated it could not be inhabited until the late 1980s.

The report also confirms the use of anthrax and other deadly germs on tests aboard ships in the Caribbean and off the Scottish coast during the 1950s. The document states: 'Tacit approval for simulant trials where the public might be exposed was strongly influenced by defence security considerations aimed obviously at restricting public knowledge. An important corollary to this was the need to avoid public alarm and disquiet about the vulnerability of the civil population to BW [biological warfare] attack.'

Sue Ellison, spokeswoman for Porton Down, said: 'Independent reports by eminent scientists have shown there was no danger to public health from these releases which were carried out to protect the public.

'The results from these trials_ will save lives, should the country or our forces face an attack by chemical and biological weapons.'

Asked whether such tests are still being carried out, she said: 'It is not our policy to discuss ongoing research.'
antony.barnett@observer.co.uk


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So This is what you are saying, don't trust info from WHO/china. Do your own analysis.

Why don't you read the news

"
The delay in the release of the genome stalled the recognition of its spread to other countries, along with the global development of tests, drugs and vaccines. The lack of detailed patient data also made it harder to determine how quickly the virus was spreading — a critical question in stopping it.

Between the day the full genome was first decoded by a government lab on Jan. 2 and the day WHO declared a global emergency on Jan. 30, the outbreak spread by a factor of 100 to 200 times, according to retrospective infection data from the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention.
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There is a difference between close contact human to human transmission and community human to human transmission.

Oh clever use of dates. You left out this notification by WHO.
WHO announced class B notifiable disease on the 20Jan. Class B is Human to human transmission.

Oh. China CDC also have constant contact with US CDC. All are recorded. You want I can show to you.
But I cannot wake up a person who is pretending to be asleep.
 
''The 'blame China' game will continue... But it is becoming harder and harder to argue that the mess most 'Western' countries are in was caused by China when it is so obvious that it is caused by the behaviors of our own societies.''

MoA - CNN's 'Blame China' Document Leak Shows China Did Nothing Wrong

The Trump administration has tried to blame China for the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic.

U.S. agencies have invested some efforts to obtain documents from China that might provide proof for that.

At least some of those documents were now leaked to CNN which has published them as The Wuhan Files.

But the documents do not show any malfeasance from China's side. They do show a health system and bureaucracy under stress while they have trouble to get an outbreak of a previously unknown infectious disease under control.

This is the most incriminating issue CNN could find in the papers:


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2020-12-01:


CHECK also this separate thread on the SARS-CoV-2:
 
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Oh troll there is lots of conflicting report by different scientist of the world that this virus made labs in Fort Detrick, Maryland, few miles from my home, these scientists went Wuhan to take part in Military exhibition they spread this virus there, anything could be possible, i am not saying this theory is 100% correct, but may USA is responsible or China, but blaming only on China without any solid proofs that this virus created by Chinese military and they spread out throughout the world is only baseless claims, anything is possible
Bro, why would he not blame China? He's Indian.
 

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