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China slams Norway for expelling academic - The Local

Last month the Norwegian government told two researchers at the University of Agder -- one of them Chinese -- to leave the country, the institution's director Tor Aagedal told AFP. Reports said Oslo took the decision over concerns their work could have military applications.

Beijing has protested to Oslo over the case, foreign ministry spokesman Hong Lei said Wednesday, calling the accusation "baseless". It "infringed upon the basic rights of the relevant Chinese scholar" and "damaged the academic image of Norway", he told reporters at a regular briefing, urging Oslo to "protect the rights and interests as well as the academic freedom" of the researcher.

China's own universities are run by the ruling Communist Party, which tightly controls discussions of topics it construes as a potential threat to its grip on power and has recently stressed the importance of ideology in higher education.

The dispute is the latest episode in a diplomatic feud that began in 2010, when Beijing halted all high-level contact with Norway after the Nobel Peace Prize was given to Chinese dissident Liu Xiaobo.

The Nobel committee is independent of the government, although its members are chosen by the Norwegian parliament. Nonetheless whole salmon imports from Norway have since been banned, supposedly on safety grounds and Norwegian citizens have been excluded from a 72-hour transit visa scheme. Oslo's ambassador -- in post since 2007 -- has reportedly been unable to return home for fear that if he leaves, his successor will not be granted a visa.

Norwegian attempts to normalise political ties with the world's second largest economy have proved fruitless as, according to analysts, China wants to set an example to deter other countries.

China maintains that it is up to Norway to make a gesture to normalise ties. Last spring, the Norwegian government announced it would not meet the Dalai Lama during his visit to Oslo, in a controversial decision Prime Minister Erna Solberg described as a "necessary sacrifice" to warm up icy relations.

In September Norwegian media reported that in 2013 then-prime minister Jens Stoltenberg had considered -- but ultimately decided against -- secretly apologising to Beijing for Liu's Nobel award. The leak appeared to have angered Beijing: soon afterwards, China called off a Norway-China labour conference at the last minute, leaving more than 20 Norwegian businesses in the lurch.

Aagedal told AFP the Chinese academic was on a scholarship to research wind power. The other individual expelled was an applied mathematics professor from "a European country" who worked "in a broad range of fields" but whose research had "no military purpose", he said. "They left immediately," he said. "We've never been involved in such a case before."

Police had told the university last summer that an investigation was underway, he added.

The Chinese academic's lawyer Nils Anders Gronaas told AFP he was working to have the expulsion order reversed, but he had been denied access to much of the documentation in the case on national security grounds. His client had caught Norwegian authorities' attention partly because of his links to a Chinese university which has connections with military scientists, he said.

The other individual was "a German national of Iranian origin", he added. Norway's intelligence services declined to comment.

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Looks like relations with Norway won't be repaired anytime soon. What a shame :disagree:

On the face of it, it seems silly to expel someone based on that person's alleged links to a Chinese university with "connections to military scientists", and the possibility that their work in Norway could have a "military application". After all, does Norway hope to retard China's military development by expelling one civilian scholar? Norway has a rather pitiful military-industrial complex - it's dwarfed even by their neighbor Sweden's (Gripens anyone?), so this almost seems like self-flattery.

The bizarreness of this incident can't be understood without reference to the Nobel Prize debacle which has strained relations with Norway. And it seems like there will be more tit-for-tat responses by both sides for some time to come.
 
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On the face of it, it seems silly to expel someone based on that person's alleged links to a Chinese university with "connections to military scientists", and the possibility that their work in Norway could have a "military application". After all, does Norway hope to retard China's military development by expelling one civilian scholar? Norway has a rather pitiful military-industrial complex - it's dwarfed even by their neighbor Sweden's (Gripens anyone?), so this almost seems like self-flattery.

The bizarreness of this incident can't be understood without reference to the Nobel Prize debacle which has strained relations with Norway. And it seems like there will be more tit-for-tat responses by both sides for some time to come.

I agree that it seems a bit rash of a decision.
 
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I agree that it seems a bit rash of a decision.

That's why it can't be understood, except as a political statement and tit-fot-tat measure stemming from the 2010 Nobel Prize debacle.

Ultimately, Norway is a rich country, so it can often do what it wants without repercussions. As we all know, China guards its sovereignty and internal affairs zealously, so relations soured in 2010 as a consequence of using the Nobel Prize as a political tool to interfere in China's internal matters. Often, China relies on economic leverage to deter other countries from interfering, and it usually works. But Norway has a GDP/capita of 100k, and one of the largest sovereign wealth funds in the world, thanks to their oil largess. China was once a large consumer of Norweigian salmon, and when their salmon exports to China collapsed as a result of the political turmoil, they were able to brush off the economic hit with little pain. So I guess it pays to be rich, lol :azn:
 
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Build several big ships.

Load it with Middleeastern and African immigrant.

Put the banner of freedom, democracy and noble peace prize.

Sail and land it to the Norway every month.

End of the trouble.


The only problem right now, Chinese tend to be a pussy when it come something like this.
 
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Chinese espionage in foreign universities is extensively documented.
 
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That's why it can't be understood, except as a political statement and tit-fot-tat measure stemming from the 2010 Nobel Prize debacle.

Ultimately, Norway is a rich country, so it can often do what it wants without repercussions. As we all know, China guards its sovereignty and internal affairs zealously, so relations soured in 2010 as a consequence of using the Nobel Prize as a political tool to interfere in China's internal matters. Often, China relies on economic leverage to deter other countries from interfering, and it usually works. But Norway has a GDP/capita of 100k, and one of the largest sovereign wealth funds in the world, thanks to their oil largess. China was once a large consumer of Norweigian salmon, and when their salmon exports to China collapsed as a result of the political turmoil, they were able to brush off the economic hit with little pain. So I guess it pays to be rich, lol :azn:

It may be suspected that the reason for the scholar's ejection my be related to that, or , some other academic drama at where he or she was studying at. Whatever the case, even if he or she was affiliated to some kind of defense research back home, that's no reason for him or her to be asked to leave. In fact, even in the United States, Japanese graduate students are studying here through military grants --- as in they served time in the defense forces and thus are using their military service grants in education abroad. Who's to say that if say, a Japanese grad student decides to study at Northwestern University in Evanston, Illinois --- focusing on Physics , focusing on laser optics. He then takes summer internship at Lockheed and Martin's Naval research facility in say --- Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Learns everything he has to there. Who's to say that he's not going to go back to Japan and work in related field, or even in defense industry research?

The same applies for Chinese grad students studying abroad. What they decide to do with their education is theirs and theirs alone.

If the reason for their ejection of said scholar is to protest last year's Nobel issue, then that's just quite immature of them. Either way, I do wish relations with Norway and China improve. Perhaps there will be some clarification for the decision.


Best,

Chinese espionage in foreign universities is extensively documented.

'Espionage' is such a harsh term. I think many of us are guilty of forwarding our experiences, observations abroad back home in one way or another.

And come on. It's Norway. lol. I hardly think they're a defense power. lol.
 
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Chinese espionage in foreign universities is extensively documented.

They are just overseas students and research partners from China.

Student job is studying, research partner help to solve problem.

What do you expect?


There are a lot of foreign students and researchers in China university and research project too.
 
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They are just overseas students and research partners from China.

Student job is studying, research partner help to solve problem.

What do you expect?


There are a lot of foreign students and researchers in China university and research project too.
I didn't say they were spies. But China does have a record of using academics to engage in espionage. It's not an entirely unfounded fear.
 
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I didn't say they were spies. But China does have a record of using academics to engage in espionage. It's not an entirely unfounded fear.

You have a point, Steve. At the same time, we all spy on one another. There ain't no saint in diplomacy.
 
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