China Shuts Hershey-Lotte Plant in Latest Missile Spat Response

[yantong1980]

Ok, let presume Russia and China retaliate, and build kind of THAAD in let say in Cuba. If Mr 'make America great again' OK with that, I don't think China and Russia have any objection. A side it was defensive or not.

 

[neem456]

Ok, let presume Russia and China retaliate, and build kind of THAAD in let say in Cuba. If Mr 'make America great again' OK with that, I don't think China and Russia have any objection. A side it was defensive or not.

Why talk. Do it.

 

[gambit]

Ok, let presume Russia and China retaliate, and build kind of THAAD in let say in Cuba. If Mr 'make America great again' OK with that, I don't think China and Russia have any objection. A side it was defensive or not.

Why do we need to presume ? You never heard of the Cuban Missile Crisis of Oct 1962 ?

Back then, when the Soviets installed missiles in Cuba, the US blockaded Cuba. A blockade is an act of war, so essentially, the US quite non-verbally declared war on Cuba. After a couple weeks, the Soviets dismantled the missiles and meekly took off.

What China can do is blockade South Korea AND Japan. The reason for the 'and' is because the distance between SKR and JPN is no deterrent to a medium range ballistic missile or THAAD. Back in 1962, if the Soviets moved those missiles to South America, the US would have pursued and made life miserable for any South American country that hosted Soviet missiles. So China must make it clear to both SKR and JPN that any hosting of THAAD by the US would result in a war between China and the hosting country.

Three items...

One - Either South Korea's or Japan's navy is more powerful today in comparison to China than Cuba in comparison to the US. That means short of a real shooting war, the PLAN simply cannot blockade either SKR or JPN.

Two -- The US is more committed to both SKR and JPN than the Soviets were to Cuba.

Three - The Soviet Navy was never the expeditionary force as the US Navy, then and now. Unlike the Soviets when we blockaded Cuba, if China threatens SKR or JPN, depending on who hosts the THAAD, we will not pack up the THAAD and docilely leave. Instead, to whoever is the host, we will land more troops, station more aircrafts, and cruise more ships to show solidarity.

 

[xunzi]

Try diplomacy?

The issue here is that you have signed some pledges under law when joining WTO, and other trade regimes.

An economic sanction violates that, and apart from that is unproductive.

Let's see the reasons:

1. It is unproductive because it gives other states the chance to use this against China.
2. It is NOT going to stop Thaad deployment in S Korea.
3. It is only creating anxiety in other countries surrounding China.
4. From now on, other countries surrounding China will try to diversify their relationship and dependence.
5. South Korea itself will try to diversify its trade.



Actually it is a national security concern for China.

The radar of THAAD alone can peer DEEP inside Chinese territory, not to mention that the whole of the north sea fleet of China will be under surveillance.

Apart from that while the title of the system may be THAAD, nothing really prevents it from being deployed against any kind of missile.

You don't think we have try diplomacy already? It doesn't work!

There is no violation of WTO. Our economic sanction is target certain organization that operated to harm our national security. As a matter of fact, every country used some form of tariff and taxation to make life difficult for the country they trade with with whom they are not on good term. The biggest is the US of the World. It is within our rights to conduct business with whom we like. It is the same right the SK can conduct elsewhere. We never oppose that. In fact, we encourage them to do so because they should know by now that we are not going to stand pat and let our national security be threatened by their own self-interest. Like I said before, the SK aren't a dummy. They know deploying thadd will hurt Sino-SK relation but they do it anyway because they "THINK" their KFX program is worth saving than any economic retaliation cost by us. Therefore it is important that we test that theory of them and let see how it will ends up.