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China responds to Indonesia’s question about alleged abuse of Xinjiang’s Muslims

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So you killed someone based on their ideology and belief? no different to Isis

I am against the killing, it was not Islamic.

So being communist is a serious crime that deserves the death penalty?
looks like your Gov is even worse than evil communist.

I am against the killing, it was not Islamic.
 
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Indonesia has more guts and compassion than many other Muslim countries to question China openly. Appreciate it.
 
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Indonesia has more guts and compassion than many other Muslim countries to question China openly. Appreciate it.
:rofl:guts or show off?

So you killed someone based on their ideology and belief? no different to Isis
Indonesia is a notorious anti China country. they have a debt of blood owned to Chinese.
 
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China responds to Indonesia’s question about alleged abuse of Xinjiang’s Muslims
  • Dian Septiari
    The Jakarta Post
Bandung / Thu, December 20, 2018 / 11:35 am
2018_01_19_39159_1516359033._large.jpg

Men dance in front of the Id Kah Mosque after morning prayers on June 26, 2017 during Idul Fitri in the old town of Kashgar in China's Xinjiang Uighur autonomous region. (Agence France -Presse/Johannes Esielle)

China has responded to Indonesia’s question about alleged human rights abuse against Uighur Muslims in Xinjiang, saying that Beijing guaranteed the religious freedom of all of its citizens, including the Uighurs.

A Chinese Embassy spokesman in Jakarta said in a statement on Thursday that “China is a country with multiple ethnic groups and religions".

“As prescribed in the Constitution, all Chinese citizens enjoy the freedom of religious belief,” the statement said.

The statement said that the Chinese government was facing the threat of religious extremism in Xinjiang, which is home to about 14 million Muslims. Some Xinjiang residents, it said, had struggled to find jobs because of their poor command of the nation’s official language and lack of skills.

“This has made them vulnerable to the instigation and coercion of terrorism and extremism,” it said.

“In light of the situation, Xinjiang has established professional vocational training institutions as the platform, providing courses on China’s common language, legal knowledge, vocational skills, along with de-radicalization education for citizens influenced by extremist ideas.”

Previously, the Foreign Ministry said it had summoned Chinese Ambassador to Indonesia Xiao Qian on Monday to convey the concerns of Indonesian Muslims about the plight of Uighur Muslims in Xinjiang.

“The Foreign Ministry stressed that in accordance with the universal declaration of human rights, religious freedom and belief are human rights and it is the responsibility of all countries to respect it,” ministry spokesperson Arrmanatha Nasir told reporters on the sidelines of the Diplofest event on Wednesday evening.

He said Xiao Qian conveyed China’s commitment to the protection of human rights. In addition, the ambassador said it was very important for the Indonesian public to know the condition of the Uighurs in Xinjiang, an autonomous region.

“Even though it is a domestic issue, the Foreign Ministry noted the embassy’s intention to expand communication with various civil society groups in order to convey information about the condition of the Uighur community.”

The summons of the Chinese ambassador came shortly after Indonesian Islamic groups demanded an explanation on the situation in Xinjiang.

Western countries have accused China of persecuting Uighurs through its “re-education centers”, which Beijing insisted were actually vocational and training centers that combat religious extremism.

The situation in Xinjiang was highlighted during China’s third United Nations Human Rights Council’s universal periodic review last month.

Human Rights Watch says Uighur people in particular are subject to intense surveillance and are made to give DNA and biometric samples.

Muhammadiyah chairman Haedar Nashir said if the reports were true, then China had violated universal human rights and his organization was ready to mobilize humanitarian and material support for peace in Xinjiang, especially for the Uighur community.

”The Chinese government’s inaction is feared to hurt diplomatic relations between Indonesia and China, and the good relations our people have had for centuries,” Haedar said as quoted by Antara on Wednesday.

Social media messages calling on Indonesians to take to the streets to defend Uighurs have been circulating online in the last few days.

On Monday, the Indonesian Ulema Council (MUI) advisory council leader and former chairman of Muhammadiyah, Din Syamsuddin, said the alleged crackdown was an outright violation of basic human rights and demanded that the Indonesian government take firm action to advocate for the Uighur people.

Responding to the MUI’s call, Vice President Jusuf Kalla said Indonesia would not interfere in China’s handling of Uighur Muslims.

“Of course we reject or [want to] prevent any human rights violations. However, we don’t want to intervene in the domestic affairs of another country,” Kalla told journalists on Monday.

The Chinese Embassy’s spokesman said that, “China and Indonesia have always supported each other on issues concerning respective major interests.

“I believe after knowing the real situation in Xinjiang, our Indonesian friends would better understand and support the Chinese government's efforts to combat terrorism and extremism and to safeguard stability and security in Xinjiang,” he said.

https://www.thejakartapost.com/news...about-alleged-abuse-of-xinjiangs-muslims.html
Please place a thick line between Muslims and terrorists. They are not the same.
 
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:rofl:guts or show off?

Indonesia is a notorious anti China country. they have a debt of blood owned to Chinese.

Those notorious acts were happen in Soeharto era. Although there's still some racist people in Indonesia today, but not so popular in the eyes of Indonesian People in General. I think the bridge has been build between China and Indonesia. So let that bridge become stronger and not be destroyed because of sentiments that can cause friction between the two people.

I know that this bridge is still fragile. Like Soeharto faction is on raise again lately, Uyghur sentiments, '98 chaos, etc. But let's talk about good will instead of hatred and anger. Even a best friend can become enemy when you mentioned old wound again and again.

I am against the killing, it was not Islamic.

I am against the killing, it was not Islamic.

Yes, you should! And it's true that it was not Islamic.
 
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China responds to Indonesia’s question about alleged abuse of Xinjiang’s Muslims
  • Dian Septiari
    The Jakarta Post
Bandung / Thu, December 20, 2018 / 11:35 am
2018_01_19_39159_1516359033._large.jpg

Men dance in front of the Id Kah Mosque after morning prayers on June 26, 2017 during Idul Fitri in the old town of Kashgar in China's Xinjiang Uighur autonomous region. (Agence France -Presse/Johannes Esielle)

China has responded to Indonesia’s question about alleged human rights abuse against Uighur Muslims in Xinjiang, saying that Beijing guaranteed the religious freedom of all of its citizens, including the Uighurs.

A Chinese Embassy spokesman in Jakarta said in a statement on Thursday that “China is a country with multiple ethnic groups and religions".

“As prescribed in the Constitution, all Chinese citizens enjoy the freedom of religious belief,” the statement said.

The statement said that the Chinese government was facing the threat of religious extremism in Xinjiang, which is home to about 14 million Muslims. Some Xinjiang residents, it said, had struggled to find jobs because of their poor command of the nation’s official language and lack of skills.

“This has made them vulnerable to the instigation and coercion of terrorism and extremism,” it said.

“In light of the situation, Xinjiang has established professional vocational training institutions as the platform, providing courses on China’s common language, legal knowledge, vocational skills, along with de-radicalization education for citizens influenced by extremist ideas.”

Previously, the Foreign Ministry said it had summoned Chinese Ambassador to Indonesia Xiao Qian on Monday to convey the concerns of Indonesian Muslims about the plight of Uighur Muslims in Xinjiang.

“The Foreign Ministry stressed that in accordance with the universal declaration of human rights, religious freedom and belief are human rights and it is the responsibility of all countries to respect it,” ministry spokesperson Arrmanatha Nasir told reporters on the sidelines of the Diplofest event on Wednesday evening.

He said Xiao Qian conveyed China’s commitment to the protection of human rights. In addition, the ambassador said it was very important for the Indonesian public to know the condition of the Uighurs in Xinjiang, an autonomous region.

“Even though it is a domestic issue, the Foreign Ministry noted the embassy’s intention to expand communication with various civil society groups in order to convey information about the condition of the Uighur community.”

The summons of the Chinese ambassador came shortly after Indonesian Islamic groups demanded an explanation on the situation in Xinjiang.

Western countries have accused China of persecuting Uighurs through its “re-education centers”, which Beijing insisted were actually vocational and training centers that combat religious extremism.

The situation in Xinjiang was highlighted during China’s third United Nations Human Rights Council’s universal periodic review last month.

Human Rights Watch says Uighur people in particular are subject to intense surveillance and are made to give DNA and biometric samples.

Muhammadiyah chairman Haedar Nashir said if the reports were true, then China had violated universal human rights and his organization was ready to mobilize humanitarian and material support for peace in Xinjiang, especially for the Uighur community.

”The Chinese government’s inaction is feared to hurt diplomatic relations between Indonesia and China, and the good relations our people have had for centuries,” Haedar said as quoted by Antara on Wednesday.

Social media messages calling on Indonesians to take to the streets to defend Uighurs have been circulating online in the last few days.

On Monday, the Indonesian Ulema Council (MUI) advisory council leader and former chairman of Muhammadiyah, Din Syamsuddin, said the alleged crackdown was an outright violation of basic human rights and demanded that the Indonesian government take firm action to advocate for the Uighur people.

Responding to the MUI’s call, Vice President Jusuf Kalla said Indonesia would not interfere in China’s handling of Uighur Muslims.

“Of course we reject or [want to] prevent any human rights violations. However, we don’t want to intervene in the domestic affairs of another country,” Kalla told journalists on Monday.

The Chinese Embassy’s spokesman said that, “China and Indonesia have always supported each other on issues concerning respective major interests.

“I believe after knowing the real situation in Xinjiang, our Indonesian friends would better understand and support the Chinese government's efforts to combat terrorism and extremism and to safeguard stability and security in Xinjiang,” he said.

https://www.thejakartapost.com/news...about-alleged-abuse-of-xinjiangs-muslims.html

Hypocrite Indonesian.. So much bravery and justice for muslim. But its selective only. Working for the evil Uncle Sam satan.

https://www.jpost.com/Israel/Indonesia-to-buy-four-Israeli-spy-drones


INDONESIA TO BUY FOUR ISRAELI SPY DRONES


So much concern for Uighur muslim while ignore Palestine muslim and working for the big Uncle Sam satan and Israel. You are a real shame to muslim.
 
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Hypocrite Indonesian.. So much bravery and justice for muslim. But its selective only. Working for the evil Uncle Sam satan.

https://www.jpost.com/Israel/Indonesia-to-buy-four-Israeli-spy-drones


INDONESIA TO BUY FOUR ISRAELI SPY DRONES


So much concern for Uighur muslim while ignore Palestine muslim and working for the big Uncle Sam satan and Israel. You are a real shame to muslim.


Indonesian's government stance is clear: we dont interfere with China's domestic affair. We are only asking China for the clarification whether the news about uyghur miss treatment is true or not, and this is inline with our foreign affair principle.

The voice from clerical organization doesn't represent our government stance. You know, Indonesia is democratic country therefore organization representing group of people can convey their opinion.
 
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Indonesian's government stance is clear: we dont interfere with China's domestic affair. We are only asking China for the clarification whether the news about uyghur miss treatment is true or not, and this is inline with our foreign affair principle.

The voice from clerical organization doesn't represent our government stance. You know, Indonesia is democratic country therefore organization representing group of people can convey their opinion.
Look at your stupid Indos OP reply. Clearly this hypocrite want to poke his nose into our matter.
 
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Look at your stupid Indos OP reply. Clearly this hypocrite want to poke his nose into our matter.

What happen in 65 is obviously wrong.

I believe what he meant is that the situation was chaos and out of hand at that time; then the mass was doing something like preemptive fight against ICP because ICP had agenda to kill their clerical leaders and had killed their clerics already before.

In fact, our government now is trying to strengthen cooperation with China and become less dependent on US.
 
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