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Nepal is a sovereign country to have her own independent foreign policy. Being sandwiched between two giant nations is not easy to side with just one. Some of us indians fail to recognize that. Today, no region on earth is inhospitable. We have as much trade with US as much with China, then why we expect Nepal to be our backyard. Somehow India always messes up with Nepal. Even we did good work after earthquake our loudmouth media spoiled all the goodwill.

I don't have any spite with Nepalis. I consider them to be our own. But I don't have any faith in Maoists or the government run by them. Yes, they are sovereign country, and they can trade with China. What I am against is Nepali government's ploy to pit India against China for their political gain.
 
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I don't have any spite with Nepalis. I consider them to be our own. But I don't have any faith in Maoists or the government run by them. Yes, they are sovereign country, and they can trade with China. What I am against is Nepali government's ploy to pit India against China for their political gain.
Thats a reality. We cant escape realpolitik. Even Bangladesh, Afghanistan, Myanmar, Sri Lanka,Maldives have excellent relations with China so why to single out Nepal. Maoists or congress, its their internal matter.
Remember Modi adressing Nepali parliament... he over emphasized that Nepal must get their constitution soon, good or bad, as it can be improvised, amended over time and again but they must have the constitution soon. And when they got the constitution how did India react? We sent our forreign secretary to convey our displeasure. what we got inreturn? just ill-will and anti-india sentiment. Madhesis blocked trafic and blame came on India. Our south bloc needs serious revamping of Nepal desk.
 
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I don't have any spite with Nepalis. I consider them to be our own. But I don't have any faith in Maoists or the government run by them. Yes, they are sovereign country, and they can trade with China. What I am against is Nepali government's ploy to pit India against China for their political gain.


The bold part is the real problem! Are you still subconsciously consider your are the colonial master, patronizing Nepalis? What make you think you should consider them as your own? Did you ask them if they want to be your own? My friend, you are really doing your country disservice, and you are really good at it.
 
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The bold part is the real problem! Are you still subconsciously consider your are the colonial master, patronizing Nepalis? What make you think you should consider them as your own? Did you ask them if they want to be your own? My friend, you are really doing your country disservice, and you are really good at it.

If you consider someone your relative, I guess you are not their colonial master nor are you patronizing them.

Now why do I consider them our own? It is simply because Indian families bordering Nepal intermarry with Nepalese. The practice is very widespread.
 
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Nepali government has always two timed India. It has used China card knowing that it would spite India. It is a fact that Chinese side is inhospitable and connecting Nepal to China is not that easy and too costly to be practicable.

That dose not justify it bro what Nepal does is its internal matter. Its doing what is in its best interest and we should respect that.
 
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If you consider someone your relative, I guess you are not their colonial master nor are you patronizing them.

Now why do I consider them our own? It is simply because Indian families bordering Nepal intermarry with Nepalese. The practice is very widespread.

But majority of Nepalis have no family ties India. So don't insult them with your "you are my little brother, I will take of you" type of mentality. Just treat them as your equals, no more, no less.
 
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But majority of Nepalis have no family ties India. So don't insult them with your "you are my little brother, I will take of you" type of mentality. Just treat them as your equals, no more, no less.

You are wrong. 45% of Nepalese are Madhesi and Tarai people. They have familiy ties with India, especialiy with the people of Bihar state.

That dose not justify it bro what Nepal does is its internal matter. Its doing what is in its best interest and we should respect that.

Yes, I agree with you but unless their policies doesn't threaten India's security or harmony. There is a real danger of the violence in Nepal spelling into India.
 
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Now India will start whining about Chinese influence in its neighbours. India probably has the most retarded foreign policy in the world. First push little remaining friendly countries to deteriorate relations with it then complain about other countries coming in to fill the vacuum. I have seen some ideologically motivated countries making silly decisions but India has no such excuses.
 
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If you consider someone your relative, I guess you are not their colonial master nor are you patronizing them.

Now why do I consider them our own? It is simply because Indian families bordering Nepal intermarry with Nepalese. The practice is very widespread.
Do do play great power chauvinism when India is still a developing country.
 
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Another defeat for India as China increases its influence in South Asia.

Foreign diplomacy is an issue of management, something that Indian government are not particularly famous for. China will resolutely and surely improve relations with Nepal, including establishing strong physical connections such as extensive road networks and railroads.

Nepal is both lucky and unlucky. Lucky, because it has China as its neighbor which considers Nepal as one of its equal and is more than willing to share the fruits of development and global trade. Unlucky, because it has to deal with an arrogant and racist Indian government.

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From the Nepali Press
China roads
Dambar K Shrestha in Himal Khabarpatrika, 11-18 October



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After India cut off Nepal’s trade lifeline with the south three weeks ago, the Nepali authorities have weighed multiple options to ease an acute shortage of fuel and other essential commodities. Their first option was to import petroleum products from China, but that turned out to be the least workable one because the earthquake has blocked the two main roads leading north: Tatopani and Rasuwagadi. The Rasuwa road reopened this week with Chinese assistance but the Tatopani highway remains blocked by huge boulders.

Ananda Prasad Khanal, the former Director General of the Department of Roads (DoR), is not surprised by the slow pace of repairs. “Nepal has never given priority to increase its land connectivity with China,” he says. DoR officials say the government was not serious enough to reopen the Tatopani road until the Indian blockade. Only Rs 6 million was allocated to reopen the Tatopani road, even though repairing just 1 km of the damaged section requires around Rs 10 million.

Laxmi Dutta Bhatta of the DoR, says the budget allocated for the Tatopani road was merely a drop in the ocean. “We needed at least Rs 50 million and if we had that we could have opened the road even before the blockade,” he says. The sluggishness with which the Tatopani road is being repaired bears testimony to the fact that Nepal has never given due importance to building connectivity with China, thereby relying heavily on India for essential commodities. In the wake of a crippling embargo enforced by India, Nepal finally seems to have realised the mistake that it made by not maintaining alternatives.

Khanal says: “If our political leadership had foreseen the risk of relying on one country for trade, the Indian blockade would not have choked us.”

Apart from Tatopani and Rasuwagadi, six other Nepal-China highways are now under-construction. Two of them are likely to be completed within the next few years, and work is in progress along the 406 km highway connecting India’s Sunauli with Tibet’s Korala through Jomsom and the 291 km road from Janakpur to Phalate.

The 391 km Kechana (Jhapa)-Olangchungola (Taplejung) and the 340 km Biratnagar-Kimathanka (Sankhuwasabha) roads in eastern Nepal and the 682 km Nepalganj-Hilsa (Humla) and the 398 km-long Brahmadev Mandi-Tinkar roads in western Nepal are other important under-construction trade routes.

But the construction of these trade routes are moving slowly. In 2010, Bijendra Bade of the DoR had told us vehicles would start plying along all eight Nepal-China roads within 10 years. Five years later, there isn’t sign of much progress.

China looks keen to push the roads, but Kathmandu is dragging its feet. Nepal’s ambassador to China Mahesh Maskey says the two countries had agreed to open six more border points when Chinese premier Wen Jiabao came to Kathmandu in 2012. But the Nepal government did not show interest to follow up with that agreement.

Many believe that Nepal’s political leadership does not want to offend New Delhi by accelerating Nepal-China roads. But with the blockade, there is growing pressure to accelerate the roads to the north.

@Azizam , @Chinese-Dragon
 
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You are just a butthurtt Sri-Lankan masquerading as some foreign policy expert.

There is going to be no increase in Chinese influence over Nepal. Cold hard geographic facts preclude any possibility of China replacing India's influence in Nepal. There is Himalayan mountain range and a desolate Tibetan plateau between Nepal and populated part of China, thus making any land transport prohibitively expensive.

There is no retardedness in Indian policy as frankly, India does not need to suffer idi0ts. If Nepali pahadis think that they could roughshod over Indian concerns and that of its own Majority (Madheshi + Tharu + Janjatis >70%), they would learn a lasting lesson in geography and polity.



Modi ,due to his Hindu leader image, is (at least was) more popular among even Pahadis than their own bickering nincompoop politicians.

This may have been one of the reason for manufacture of this crisis by Pahadi politicians.
When are we going to see India learning any lesson with its abysmal economic performance? China is not incompetent as India. China will make sure to do the impossible and you indians will lose another friendly neighbour and continue whining about Chinese influence.
 
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Foreign diplomacy is an issue of management, something that Indian government are not particularly famous for. China will resolutely and surely improve relations with Nepal, including establishing strong physical connections such as extensive road networks and railroads.

Nepal is both lucky and unlucky. Lucky, because it has China as its neighbor which considers Nepal as one of its equal and is more than willing to share the fruits of development and global trade. Unlucky, because it has to deal with an arrogant and racist Indian government.

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From the Nepali Press
China roads
Dambar K Shrestha in Himal Khabarpatrika, 11-18 October



n4DV9OA.jpg



After India cut off Nepal’s trade lifeline with the south three weeks ago, the Nepali authorities have weighed multiple options to ease an acute shortage of fuel and other essential commodities. Their first option was to import petroleum products from China, but that turned out to be the least workable one because the earthquake has blocked the two main roads leading north: Tatopani and Rasuwagadi. The Rasuwa road reopened this week with Chinese assistance but the Tatopani highway remains blocked by huge boulders.

Ananda Prasad Khanal, the former Director General of the Department of Roads (DoR), is not surprised by the slow pace of repairs. “Nepal has never given priority to increase its land connectivity with China,” he says. DoR officials say the government was not serious enough to reopen the Tatopani road until the Indian blockade. Only Rs 6 million was allocated to reopen the Tatopani road, even though repairing just 1 km of the damaged section requires around Rs 10 million.

Laxmi Dutta Bhatta of the DoR, says the budget allocated for the Tatopani road was merely a drop in the ocean. “We needed at least Rs 50 million and if we had that we could have opened the road even before the blockade,” he says. The sluggishness with which the Tatopani road is being repaired bears testimony to the fact that Nepal has never given due importance to building connectivity with China, thereby relying heavily on India for essential commodities. In the wake of a crippling embargo enforced by India, Nepal finally seems to have realised the mistake that it made by not maintaining alternatives.

Khanal says: “If our political leadership had foreseen the risk of relying on one country for trade, the Indian blockade would not have choked us.”

Apart from Tatopani and Rasuwagadi, six other Nepal-China highways are now under-construction. Two of them are likely to be completed within the next few years, and work is in progress along the 406 km highway connecting India’s Sunauli with Tibet’s Korala through Jomsom and the 291 km road from Janakpur to Phalate.

The 391 km Kechana (Jhapa)-Olangchungola (Taplejung) and the 340 km Biratnagar-Kimathanka (Sankhuwasabha) roads in eastern Nepal and the 682 km Nepalganj-Hilsa (Humla) and the 398 km-long Brahmadev Mandi-Tinkar roads in western Nepal are other important under-construction trade routes.

But the construction of these trade routes are moving slowly. In 2010, Bijendra Bade of the DoR had told us vehicles would start plying along all eight Nepal-China roads within 10 years. Five years later, there isn’t sign of much progress.

China looks keen to push the roads, but Kathmandu is dragging its feet. Nepal’s ambassador to China Mahesh Maskey says the two countries had agreed to open six more border points when Chinese premier Wen Jiabao came to Kathmandu in 2012. But the Nepal government did not show interest to follow up with that agreement.

Many believe that Nepal’s political leadership does not want to offend New Delhi by accelerating Nepal-China roads. But with the blockade, there is growing pressure to accelerate the roads to the north.

@Azizam , @Chinese-Dragon

Good progress! To prevent worsening of local economy even humanitarian crisis, this is much necessary for the people of Nepal. Spokesperson of Foreign Department Hua Chun Ying has also informed the press about it during a regular press conference yesterday. Wish that could help Nepal!

中国-尼泊尔边境吉隆口岸恢复开放_国际新闻_环球网
 
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You are just a butthurtt Sri-Lankan masquerading as some foreign policy expert.

The term butthurt is commonly used by PDF Indians like you whenever you're over hyped glorification are proved wrong by others.. Either it's a unhealthy fascination you'll have with the rear end of other people or delusions of grandeur that for some god forsaken reason think that rest of the world is jealous of India or Indians

So since it's often repeated.. Could you pls highlight reasons why a Sri Lankan would be butthurt of Indians or for that matter any thing Indian ? Would be doing a big favor to this forum

Just one reason would suffice.. Tah
 
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The term butthurt is commonly used by PDF Indians like you whenever you're over hyped glorification are proved wrong by others.. Either it's a unhealthy fascination you'll have with the rear end of other people or delusions of grandeur that for some god forsaken reason think that rest of the world is jealous of India or Indians

So since it's often repeated.. Could you pls highlight reasons why a Sri Lankan would be butthurt of Indians or for that matter any thing Indian ? Would be doing a big favor to this forum

Just one reason would suffice.. Tah

Great one my friend! That's hell of a sense of humor you got there!

On topic, roads are quicker to build and can serve emergency needs, but in the long run only heavy-duty rail transport, pipe-lines, can deliver in quantities. Both should explore more infra.
 
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