China renames a river because it sounds Arabic

[Tauren Paladin]

I don't see why it's a big deal. There's no harm in changing a name. India illegally occupying Jammu and Kashmir and opressing people there is harmful and dangerous.

 

[Brainsucker]

If Mao was replaced by someone else, I am not optimistic China will hold during cold war.

First, other leaders may not agree to support North Korea during Korean War in 1950. Actually most of Mao's comrades disagreed with Mao, they didn't want to fight with USA. Then we have USA troops next to our boarder.

Then, with USA threat next to our boarder, China won't has much choice but closer to USSR, or to say independent foreign policy. That's Stalin's original plan. Stalin is best geopolitical master, he encouraged Kim Il-sung to have a war to unify Korean Peninsula, Stalin knew it will backfired on China's national security.

No one in CCP had Mao's authority, sectarianism will destroy CCP from inside, just like USSR.

Without Mao's determination and authority, radical reform is harder, sectarianism will stumble China. China won't play a significant role during cold war. US won't give up Taiwan nor first island chain. China is deadlocked between USSR and USA. The north and west side is surrounded by USSR. The east and south side is surrounded by USA. China is the battle field, the front-line of two supper power.

There are 2 series of books, which you can read, one is 美国对华情报解密档案, the other is 苏联历史档案选编. I read those books, I don't think other people can play better than Mao.

Mao is very tough, he fought for independent foreign policy and great power position. Without Mao, China won't restore P5 seat in UN in 1971, nor hydrogen bomb in 1967. Without Mao, China won't have launched Dongfanghong space satellite in 1970, nor DF-4 intercontinental ballistic missile in 1975.

Mao is radical, but he built China's backbone, which is steel, heavy industry, railway, power plant, dam, and most importantly tanks, fighter jets, Nukes and intercontinental ballistic missile.

Without Mao's Nukes, Deng Xiaoping can't focus on economy development as well as cut military budget.


I think you have a point. Personally I think all ideologies is a religion, and all religions is an ideology. And we all knew religions do not get along with each other naturally, ideologies do not get along with each other naturally.

But, China dislike religions not because CCP. China secular power control religions most of time in history, not the otherwise. Religions in China never played a significant role, never. China is not Europe, nor middle east, nor South Asia. Religions must obey secular power, no matter it's King, Emperor or Chairman.

Once religions want to compete with secular power, they better knew their position. Falun Gong rose and fell just in 10 years or so.

Thank you for sharing your thought about this. Yes, that's Mao's best feat that make CCP won China in 1949. He was a tough fighter. And he had all the traits that you write in your post here.

 

[haidian]

If Mao was replaced by someone else, I am not optimistic China will hold during cold war.

First, other leaders may not agree to support North Korea during Korean War in 1950. Actually most of Mao's comrades disagreed with Mao, they didn't want to fight with USA. Then we have USA troops next to our boarder.

Then, with USA threat next to our boarder, China won't has much choice but closer to USSR, or to say independent foreign policy. That's Stalin's original plan. Stalin is best geopolitical master, he encouraged Kim Il-sung to have a war to unify Korean Peninsula, Stalin knew it will backfired on China's national security.

No one in CCP had Mao's authority, sectarianism will destroy CCP from inside, just like USSR.

Without Mao's determination and authority, radical reform is harder, sectarianism will stumble China. China won't play a significant role during cold war. US won't give up Taiwan nor first island chain. China is deadlocked between USSR and USA. The north and west side is surrounded by USSR. The east and south side is surrounded by USA. China is the battle field, the front-line of two supper power.

There are 2 series of books, which you can read, one is 美国对华情报解密档案, the other is 苏联历史档案选编. I read those books, I don't think other people can play better than Mao.

Mao is very tough, he fought for independent foreign policy and great power position. Without Mao, China won't restore P5 seat in UN in 1971, nor hydrogen bomb in 1967. Without Mao, China won't have launched Dongfanghong space satellite in 1970, nor DF-4 intercontinental ballistic missile in 1975.

Mao is radical, but he built China's backbone, which is steel, heavy industry, railway, power plant, dam, and most importantly tanks, fighter jets, Nukes and intercontinental ballistic missile.

Without Mao's Nukes, Deng Xiaoping can't focus on economy development as well as cut military budget.


I think you have a point. Personally I think all ideologies is a religion, and all religions is an ideology. And we all knew religions do not get along with each other naturally, ideologies do not get along with each other naturally.

But, China dislike religions not because CCP. China secular power control religions most of time in history, not the otherwise. Religions in China never played a significant role, never. China is not Europe, nor middle east, nor South Asia. Religions must obey secular power, no matter it's King, Emperor or Chairman.

Once religions want to compete with secular power, they better knew their position. Falun Gong rose and fell just in 10 years or so.

Well put indeed.

 

[Omar Al-Deek]

So Muslim hates communism? So what is the point of your criticism, when a country with communism ideology (that you hate) prosecute your religion? They're evil, aren't they? You hate them, aren't you? So, there is no point for them to answer your criticism because it is pointless. Whatever they said, you always hate them. Because they're communist. An Entity that you HATE.

I hate Communism. Everyone should hate Communism. Communism is evil and Satanic. It was created as part of an international Jewish conspiracy to advance the New World Order. I hear there's a good movie on Communism called Pengkhianatan G30S/PKI. What is occurring in China shows that it is right to hate Communism.

 

[Brainsucker]

I hate Communism. Everyone should hate Communism. Communism is evil and Satanic. It was created as part of an international Jewish conspiracy to advance the New World Order. I hear there's a good movie on Communism called Pengkhianatan G30S/PKI. What is occurring in China shows that it is right to hate Communism.

Then, there is nothing worth for Chinese Posters here to answer you then. Because you post it for the sake of hatred. Whatever they said, They're always evil Commie for you. Do you even care to give them a chance to find a middle ground for the good of two parties? Nah, you just want to push your Muslim value to a Communist country. And tell the evil one to accept your value, while at the same time, you will always reject their value. It's not a discussion, it's a witch hunting.

 

[haidian]

I hate Communism. Everyone should hate Communism. Communism is evil and Satanic. It was created as part of an international Jewish conspiracy to advance the New World Order. I hear there's a good movie on Communism called Pengkhianatan G30S/PKI. What is occurring in China shows that it is right to hate Communism.

Ok, so you started this thread just for your hatred against communism, won't waste my time on you, haters gonna hate.

 

[Omar Al-Deek]

Then, there is nothing worth for Chinese Posters here to answer you then. Because you post it for the sake of hatred. Whatever they said, They're always evil Commie for you. Do you even care to give them a chance to find a middle ground for the good of two parties? Nah, you just want to push your Muslim value to a Communist country. And tell the evil one to accept your value, while at the same time, you will always reject their value. It's not a discussion, it's a witch hunting.

I'm not against China or Chinese people. I find China fascinating and I think it's very interesting. I'm also interesting in learning about its history. Its nothing anti-Chinese.

However, yes, I am utterly opposed to Communism- whether it rears its head in Latin America, Spain, Russia, China, Yemen, Indonesia, wherever; whether it appears in the form of Plutarco Calles, Fidel Castro, Mao Zedong, Che Guevara, etc.

The fight against Communism must continue until Judeo-Bolshevism is extinguished all throughout the entire world.

If this position is not to other peoples' liking, it is become I am indeed a Maoist!

If you know the story of the Sino-Soviet Split, Khruschev wanted "co-existence" with the capitalist world. Mao stood against this and argued for uncompromising belligerence.

Perhaps others are not as Maoist as I am. I am not a Khruschevite. I believe we must follow "Maoist" line in opposition to Communism until Communism is eliminated.

Hatred of Communism must be deepened, cultivated and promoted.

It is right to hate Communism.

Is it wrong to hate murder? Wrong to hate stealing? Wrong to hate adultery? Wrong to hate Communism?

Not at all.

Joseph Goebbels right described Judeo-Bolshevism thus: "Bolshevism, which is in reality an attack on the world of the spirit".

In reality, Communism is the aggressor in a war it is waging against the spiritual capacity of man, against religion. Communism seeks the elimination of religion. Those who believe in God therefore are well-justified in wishing for Communism's elimination. It is Communism that is the aggressor, not the believer in God and the one who wants the protection of their faith. Muslims must be free to practice Islam in every country of the earth and there is no man-made law which is higher than the commandments of Almighty God.

 

[barjo]

I'm not against China or Chinese people. I find China fascinating and I think it's very interesting. I'm also interesting in learning about its history. Its nothing anti-Chinese.

However, yes, I am utterly opposed to Communism- whether it rears its head in Latin America, Spain, Russia, China, Yemen, Indonesia, wherever; whether it appears in the form of Plutarco Calles, Fidel Castro, Mao Zedong, Che Guevara, etc.

The fight against Communism must continue until Judeo-Bolshevism is extinguished all throughout the entire world.

If this position is not to other peoples' liking, it is become I am indeed a Maoist!

If you know the story of the Sino-Soviet Split, Khruschev wanted "co-existence" with the capitalist world. Mao stood against this and argued for uncompromising belligerence.

Perhaps others are not as Maoist as I am. I am not a Khruschevite. I believe we must follow "Maoist" line in opposition to Communism until Communism is eliminated.

Hatred of Communism must be deepened, cultivated and promoted.

It is right to hate Communism.

Is it wrong to hate murder? Wrong to hate stealing? Wrong to hate adultert? Wrong to hate Communism?

Not at all.

Joseph Goebbels right described Judeo-Bolshevism thus: "Bolshevism, which is in reality an attack on the world of the spirit".

In reality, Communism is the aggressor in a war it is waging against the spiritual capacity of man, against religion. Communism seeks the elimination of religion. Those who believe in God therefore are well-justified in wishing for Communism's elimination. It is Communism that is the aggressor, not the believer in God and the one who wants the protection of their faith. Muslims must be free to practice Islam in every country of the earth and there is no man-made law which is higher than the commandments of Almighty God.

I dont know is it okay to quote nazi propaganda here?

 

[Omar Al-Deek]

I dont know is it okay to quote nazi propaganda here?

I'm not a Nazi. However, not everything they said was false. World War 2 was a victory for Stalin and Communism.

 

[barjo]

I'm not a Nazi. However, not everything they said was false.

Damn you hate jews, commie, atheis...etc etc etc... You want kill the rest of the world? Astrafillulah... Bye... I dont want talk this shit anymore

 

[Omar Al-Deek]

Damn you hate jews, commie, atheis...etc etc etc... You want kill the rest of the world? Astrafillulah... Bye... I dont want talk this shit anymore

I don't hate Jews. I'm opposed to the International Jewish Conspiracy but I don't hate Jews, though. Not all Jews are like George Soros or the Rothschilds. A person can be ethnically Jewish and they have no control over that. It would be wrong to hate them for that. They can be Jewish by ethnicity but be Muslim by faith.

I hate Communism and atheism. However, I don't wish harm on anyone simply for being Communist or atheist.

If someone is a Communist or atheist- I hate the Communism or atheism that is in their heart but that doesn't mean I actually hate them personally.

 

[OIO]

I'm not against China or Chinese people. I find China fascinating and I think it's very interesting. I'm also interesting in learning about its history. Its nothing anti-Chinese.

However, yes, I am utterly opposed to Communism- whether it rears its head in Latin America, Spain, Russia, China, Yemen, Indonesia, wherever; whether it appears in the form of Plutarco Calles, Fidel Castro, Mao Zedong, Che Guevara, etc.

The fight against Communism must continue until Judeo-Bolshevism is extinguished all throughout the entire world.

If this position is not to other peoples' liking, it is become I am indeed a Maoist!

If you know the story of the Sino-Soviet Split, Khruschev wanted "co-existence" with the capitalist world. Mao stood against this and argued for uncompromising belligerence.

Perhaps others are not as Maoist as I am. I am not a Khruschevite. I believe we must follow "Maoist" line in opposition to Communism until Communism is eliminated.

Hatred of Communism must be deepened, cultivated and promoted.

It is right to hate Communism.

Is it wrong to hate murder? Wrong to hate stealing? Wrong to hate adultery? Wrong to hate Communism?

Not at all.

Joseph Goebbels right described Judeo-Bolshevism thus: "Bolshevism, which is in reality an attack on the world of the spirit".

In reality, Communism is the aggressor in a war it is waging against the spiritual capacity of man, against religion. Communism seeks the elimination of religion. Those who believe in God therefore are well-justified in wishing for Communism's elimination. It is Communism that is the aggressor, not the believer in God and the one who wants the protection of their faith. Muslims must be free to practice Islam in every country of the earth and there is no man-made law which is higher than the commandments of Almighty God.

So you're Muslim supremacy, but this is not your world not your earth.

I don't hate Jews. I'm opposed to the International Jewish Conspiracy but I don't hate Jews, though. Not all Jews are like George Soros or the Rothschilds. A person can be ethnically Jewish and they have no control over that. It would be wrong to hate them for that. They can be Jewish by ethnicity but be Muslim by faith.

I hate Communism and atheism. However, I don't wish harm on anyone simply for being Communist or atheist.

If someone is a Communist or atheist- I hate the Communism or atheism that is in their heart but that doesn't mean I actually hate them personally.

Communist or not, atheist is future, time will proov.

 

[Omar Al-Deek]

So you're Muslim supremacy, but this is not your world not your earth.

Muslims must be free to practice Islam in every country of the earth

I don't think that statement is "Muslim supremacy". If that statement is "Muslim supremacy" I suppose I must believe in "Christian supremacy" and "Jewish supremacy" as well as I believe Christians and Jews should also be free to practice their religions.

Communist or not, atheist is future, time will proov.

So you believe in atheist supremacy, but this is not your world not your earth. Allah is Lord over this world and all worlds. Muslim or not, Islam is future, time will proov.

 

[OIO]

I don't think that statement is "Muslim supremacy". If that statement is "Muslim supremacy" I suppose I must believe in "Christian supremacy" and "Jewish supremacy" as well as I believe Christians and Jews should also be free to practice their religions.



So you believe in atheist supremacy, but this is not your world not your earth. Allah is Lord over this world and all worlds.

Atheist can leave earth you can't not.

 

[barjo]

I don't hate Jews. I'm opposed to the International Jewish Conspiracy but I don't hate Jews, though. Not all Jews are like George Soros or the Rothschilds. A person can be ethnically Jewish and they have no control over that. It would be wrong to hate them for that. They can be Jewish by ethnicity but be Muslim by faith.

I hate Communism and atheism. However, I don't wish harm on anyone simply for Communist or atheist.

If someone is a Communist or atheist- I hate the Communism or atheism that is in their heart but that doesn't mean I actually hate them personally.

No one want to be Moslem if our heart only full of hates, no one believe there is peace in Islam, if we not stop the hates, i dont consider any voluntery commie will be convert or embrace to Islam, or jews or atheis. We cant life this world by our own Al Mighty also create them, in my home country all living in harmony as brothers and sisters they dont call everything upon religion but brotherhood of nation, then what we become is the largest Moslem population on earth, without forcing or hates between us

But it just my though anyway is up to you guys