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China preparing for war. Moving 1000s of missiles

you are reading too much into science fiction.

I know what they had in the 1950s and 1960s in technology, they are far beyond that. I own antipersonnel electronic warfare weapons - called rife machines. China sells them for a few hundred USD. I have had beneficial frequencies shot at me and harmful ones. This is child's play compared with the technology the US has.

You have to first develop the weapons the US has, then develop weapons that are immune to them. These weapons are reserved for the final war.


The future of warfare is no longer about bullets and bombs, or dominating land, sea and air. Instead, tomorrow’s victors will dominate the ether.

Electronic warfare: The ethereal future of battle
The voice of the foreign military commander is sinister and gloating.
“On the anniversary of our nation’s most glorious sea victory, let us remember our heroes that helped bring the United States to its knees,” he says, his face obscured by shadows. “We ground to dust the vaunted American navy like the impotent clay figurines that they had become.”
The speech continues, providing hints of how the devastating attack of 2025 began—carried out initially not with bombs and bullets, but invisible electromagnetic energy and cyberattacks that dropped drones from the sky, left US cities in total blackness, and disabled entire aircraft carriers at sea.
This video may sound like the opening of an apocalyptic movie, but the brief clip was created as part of a US Navy game called MMOWGLI, an acronym for the unwieldy sounding Massive Multiplayer Online Wargame Leveraging the Internet. The crowdsourcing game, which was run by three elements of the US Navy – the Navy Warfare Development Command, the Office of Naval Research and the Naval Postgraduate School—invited players to help develop ideas for how the navy could prepare for this brave new world of electromagnetic warfare, where enemies use invisible, and often untraceable weapons, that can theoretically disable everything from satellites and computers to radar and aircraft.
Electromagnetic warfare covers any and all weapons that attack using electromagnetic radiation, which can jam or even permanently fry electronics.
But the Navy now may be looking at such weapons as part of a broader approach to warfare. In a recent article, Admiral Jonathan Greenert, the chief of US Naval Operations, argued that cyber weapons needed to be merged with electromagnetic attacks, or what he calls the “electromagnetic cyber realm.”
“The EM-cyber environment is now so fundamental to military operations and so critical to our national interests that we must start treating it as a warfighting domain on par with—or perhaps even more important than—land, sea, air, and space,” he wrote. “Future wars will not be won simply by effectively using the EM spectrum and cyberspace; they will be won within the EM-cyber domain.”
Electronic warhead
Much has been written about cyber-weapons, such as the Stuxnet virus that infiltrated Iran’s nuclear facilities, or any number of attacks on government and military departments and contractors, but the electromagnetic realm rarely features.
These weapons trace their origins back to the cold-war idea of exploding an atom bomb high in the atmosphere above an enemy, which results in an electromagnetic pulse, or EMP, that fries the electricity grid and communication network.
While such nuclear-generated EMP weapons are still largely theoretical, the US has pursued electromagnetic weapons that use conventional sources, such as high-power microwave generators. Such weapons could, at least in theory, stop vehicles in their tracks and even take down enemy weapons.
Much of the work on such weapons is secret, but there are unclassified weapons as well. For example, the US military has funded a Radio-Frequency Vehicle Stopper - a satellite dish sized weapon that can be mounted on top of a jeep that can be used to disable enemy vehicles at a distance.
Many of these existing weapons are for relatively close-in use. “[Electromagnetic weapons] always had the problem of getting close enough to be really effective," says Dave Fulghum, a former senior editor of Aviation Week & Space Technology magazine.
But defense companies have also been working on new weapons that can strike at greater distances. In October of last year, Boeing released footage of its development weapon, the Counter-electronics High-powered Microwave Advanced Missile Project (Champ), a cruise missile with an electromagnetic warhead. Though Boeing has declined to discuss the project in any detail, a video produced by the firm shows the missile disabling a bank of desktop computers. US firm Raytheon has worked on missiles equipped with electromagnetic warheads, according to Fulghum.
This growing interest in electromagnetic weapons explains the military’s interest in preparing defenses. “An aircraft carrier [is] a huge emitter, and anytime you have an antenna putting stuff out, those then become targets,” says Fulghum. “Any emitter that can send stuff out, can have stuff put into it.”
It also helps explain the US Navy’s – perhaps unconventional - approach of using a crowdsourcing game to finding potential solutions to electromagnetic warfare.
‘Zombies in hyperspace’
The idea of MMOWGLI was to attract a wide group of people to come up with ways to help the military prepare for electromagnetic and cyber warfare. Unlike previous crowd-sourcing games sponsored by the navy and open to the public, such as one focusing on counter-piracy, the electromagnetic warfare game was limited only to those with a military or government email account. The explanation, says Don Brutzman, a professor as the Naval Postgraduate School in Monterey, California, was because of the sensitive nature of the subject.
While the game itself was unclassified, Brutzman, who helped run the game, says keeping it “limited access” introduced a layer of security. “It’s quite easy for players to go classified in a hurry,” he says. “As soon as you talk about this radar, or that antenna—the numbers and vulnerabilities—that’s classified.”
While designed as a “game,” MMOWGLI may fall far short of many people’s idea of entertainment.
“It’s not a shoot ‘em up, let’s go blast zombies in hyperspace,” cautions Brutzman. “It’s people typing ideas and interacting with each other.”
In reality, players submitted an idea, such as a way to bolster US defenses, winning points based on the number of discussion and response that their submission generates.
So what exactly can crowdsourcing do for improving electromagnetic-cyber warfare? It’s not completely clear: though the naval researchers involved in the project did post some examples of award winning concepts, at least some, such as a method for secure communication, cannot be discussed in an open forum.
While limiting it to government officials and members of the military may make the game sound less like an experiment in true crowdsourcing, Rebecca Law, a research associate at the MovesInstitute at the Naval Postgraduate School and a game administrator, points out that it still had over 200 active players. And the anonymity granted to players online allowed them to propose ideas without regard to their status or rank. “I believe it makes the information accessible when it’s done in a game-like fashion,” she said.
But more importantly, using a game with points and winners encourages a creative mindset. “They want to have great ideas,” she says. “They want to win.”
Whether they will , time will tell.



The final battle would be over in minutes. China would not know even what hit them. Their subs would be the only survivors. Which is why I say, build thousands of SSKs, SSNs, SSBNs.
 
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The final battle would be over in minutes. China would not know even what hit them. Their subs would be the only survivors. Which is why I say, build thousands of SSKs, SSNs, SSBNs.
This is absolute madness ... the Chinese have clearly chosen a quality over quantity approach with their sub fleet over the past two decades and I would not be surprised if this holds true over the next couple decades as well. Especially with nuclear submarines, which are much harder to build and more expensive ... thus the need is to spend money on qualitative improvement (more expensive subs) as opposed to quantitative (less expensive subs).
 
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The most responsible thing to do with nuclear weapons is to use it on China's enemies. Taiwan separatists are China's enemy. A surprise nuclear strike wiping out the DPP senior leadership is far more humane than any other option. It allows Taiwan to voluntarily surrender without further bloodshed.

Nuclear weapons will destroy everything. China needs a more efficient and economic solution. That is using neutron bombs. Architectural works, museums, historical relics, artifacts, crafts, jewelery ... will be safely protected.
 
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Both militaries are just chest thumping by deploying troops and pressurizing each other, there won't be any war.
 
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Here is an article showing electronic weapons that can fry enemy vehicles' electronics and make the tank or APC not work.

Electromagnetic weapons could also be used to disable enemy vehicles, or in the case of the US Active Denial System (ADS), be used to repel humans. (Copyright: JNLWP)

Electromagnetic weapons could also be used to disable enemy vehicles, or in the case of the US Active Denial System (ADS), be used to repel humans. (Copyright: JNLWP)

You may be thinking I am making this up.

You need two types of tanks. Old WWII era light tanks with no electronics and MBTs that have protection from EMPs and other electronic attacks. These compliment each other.

EW is no joke. And it is what is not talked about and weapons remain secret.

I knew the US had missiles that were equipped with electronic warfare weapons to destroy the incoming missile not with kinetic or direct hit, however, with frying the incoming missile at many meters away. Knew this before the news articles.

You can destroy a hypersonic missile or ICBM with this weapon. These are classified weapons. They make no news. Only hinted at. I know much more, my warnings are real.

China must spend 30 years with a yearly budget of 1 trillion yuan to develop EW weapons and their countermeasures to be able to defend against the US.

For starters China has to load up the orbit with military sats and asats.
 
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I know what they had in the 1950s and 1960s in technology, they are far beyond that. I own antipersonnel electronic warfare weapons - called rife machines. China sells them for a few hundred USD. I have had beneficial frequencies shot at me and harmful ones. This is child's play compared with the technology the US has.

You have to first develop the weapons the US has, then develop weapons that are immune to them. These weapons are reserved for the final war.


The future of warfare is no longer about bullets and bombs, or dominating land, sea and air. Instead, tomorrow’s victors will dominate the ether.

Electronic warfare: The ethereal future of battle
The voice of the foreign military commander is sinister and gloating.
“On the anniversary of our nation’s most glorious sea victory, let us remember our heroes that helped bring the United States to its knees,” he says, his face obscured by shadows. “We ground to dust the vaunted American navy like the impotent clay figurines that they had become.”
The speech continues, providing hints of how the devastating attack of 2025 began—carried out initially not with bombs and bullets, but invisible electromagnetic energy and cyberattacks that dropped drones from the sky, left US cities in total blackness, and disabled entire aircraft carriers at sea.
This video may sound like the opening of an apocalyptic movie, but the brief clip was created as part of a US Navy game called MMOWGLI, an acronym for the unwieldy sounding Massive Multiplayer Online Wargame Leveraging the Internet. The crowdsourcing game, which was run by three elements of the US Navy – the Navy Warfare Development Command, the Office of Naval Research and the Naval Postgraduate School—invited players to help develop ideas for how the navy could prepare for this brave new world of electromagnetic warfare, where enemies use invisible, and often untraceable weapons, that can theoretically disable everything from satellites and computers to radar and aircraft.
Electromagnetic warfare covers any and all weapons that attack using electromagnetic radiation, which can jam or even permanently fry electronics.
But the Navy now may be looking at such weapons as part of a broader approach to warfare. In a recent article, Admiral Jonathan Greenert, the chief of US Naval Operations, argued that cyber weapons needed to be merged with electromagnetic attacks, or what he calls the “electromagnetic cyber realm.”
“The EM-cyber environment is now so fundamental to military operations and so critical to our national interests that we must start treating it as a warfighting domain on par with—or perhaps even more important than—land, sea, air, and space,” he wrote. “Future wars will not be won simply by effectively using the EM spectrum and cyberspace; they will be won within the EM-cyber domain.”
Electronic warhead
Much has been written about cyber-weapons, such as the Stuxnet virus that infiltrated Iran’s nuclear facilities, or any number of attacks on government and military departments and contractors, but the electromagnetic realm rarely features.
These weapons trace their origins back to the cold-war idea of exploding an atom bomb high in the atmosphere above an enemy, which results in an electromagnetic pulse, or EMP, that fries the electricity grid and communication network.
While such nuclear-generated EMP weapons are still largely theoretical, the US has pursued electromagnetic weapons that use conventional sources, such as high-power microwave generators. Such weapons could, at least in theory, stop vehicles in their tracks and even take down enemy weapons.
Much of the work on such weapons is secret, but there are unclassified weapons as well. For example, the US military has funded a Radio-Frequency Vehicle Stopper - a satellite dish sized weapon that can be mounted on top of a jeep that can be used to disable enemy vehicles at a distance.
Many of these existing weapons are for relatively close-in use. “[Electromagnetic weapons] always had the problem of getting close enough to be really effective," says Dave Fulghum, a former senior editor of Aviation Week & Space Technology magazine.
But defense companies have also been working on new weapons that can strike at greater distances. In October of last year, Boeing released footage of its development weapon, the Counter-electronics High-powered Microwave Advanced Missile Project (Champ), a cruise missile with an electromagnetic warhead. Though Boeing has declined to discuss the project in any detail, a video produced by the firm shows the missile disabling a bank of desktop computers. US firm Raytheon has worked on missiles equipped with electromagnetic warheads, according to Fulghum.
This growing interest in electromagnetic weapons explains the military’s interest in preparing defenses. “An aircraft carrier [is] a huge emitter, and anytime you have an antenna putting stuff out, those then become targets,” says Fulghum. “Any emitter that can send stuff out, can have stuff put into it.”
It also helps explain the US Navy’s – perhaps unconventional - approach of using a crowdsourcing game to finding potential solutions to electromagnetic warfare.
‘Zombies in hyperspace’
The idea of MMOWGLI was to attract a wide group of people to come up with ways to help the military prepare for electromagnetic and cyber warfare. Unlike previous crowd-sourcing games sponsored by the navy and open to the public, such as one focusing on counter-piracy, the electromagnetic warfare game was limited only to those with a military or government email account. The explanation, says Don Brutzman, a professor as the Naval Postgraduate School in Monterey, California, was because of the sensitive nature of the subject.
While the game itself was unclassified, Brutzman, who helped run the game, says keeping it “limited access” introduced a layer of security. “It’s quite easy for players to go classified in a hurry,” he says. “As soon as you talk about this radar, or that antenna—the numbers and vulnerabilities—that’s classified.”
While designed as a “game,” MMOWGLI may fall far short of many people’s idea of entertainment.
“It’s not a shoot ‘em up, let’s go blast zombies in hyperspace,” cautions Brutzman. “It’s people typing ideas and interacting with each other.”
In reality, players submitted an idea, such as a way to bolster US defenses, winning points based on the number of discussion and response that their submission generates.
So what exactly can crowdsourcing do for improving electromagnetic-cyber warfare? It’s not completely clear: though the naval researchers involved in the project did post some examples of award winning concepts, at least some, such as a method for secure communication, cannot be discussed in an open forum.
While limiting it to government officials and members of the military may make the game sound less like an experiment in true crowdsourcing, Rebecca Law, a research associate at the MovesInstitute at the Naval Postgraduate School and a game administrator, points out that it still had over 200 active players. And the anonymity granted to players online allowed them to propose ideas without regard to their status or rank. “I believe it makes the information accessible when it’s done in a game-like fashion,” she said.
But more importantly, using a game with points and winners encourages a creative mindset. “They want to have great ideas,” she says. “They want to win.”
Whether they will , time will tell.



The final battle would be over in minutes. China would not know even what hit them. Their subs would be the only survivors. Which is why I say, build thousands of SSKs, SSNs, SSBNs.
I think this is the area, you need not worry about for China if u are talking about jamming or ECM. This area is China strongest point which many technology hidden from US and US knows very little of Chinese capabilities.
 
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The purple colored website, which is a pain to just look at, is that of the OP's. He has created the identical thread (which got shut down by @Horus yesterday) just to route PDF traffic to his website yet again.

Here is the actual video, posted by some FLG guy I believe.

You do know that the state of art Chinese ICBM ballistic missile is now the DF-41 right?
Mostly hq 16s
 
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Since 2020 is dubbed the year of doom. From Iran/US crisis, to pandemic of covid-19, follow by locust attack and then Beirut massive bomb. Massive flooding in China.

Last thing, we need is a major war to complete 2020 and then maybe follow by a massive volcanic eruption, earthquake or tsunami.

This Taiwan strait may be the war for 2020.

dont believe prophecies , they never come true .
 
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Thread: China fires missiles (DF-21 and DF26) capable of destroying aircraft carriers
 
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