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http://www.hindustantimes.com/world...unch-prices/story-mF7X9RwS5ai1rCjUDYb2zH.html

The Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) is fully prepared for the global race to cut the cost of launching rockets, the agency said on Tuesday after China announced plans to bring down prices to $5,000 a kilogram.
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Rocket launch prices usually aren’t made public and a Chinese official’s rare comments on plans to reduce costs were made at an aerospace forum in Beijing this month.

Reacting to China’s plans to drastically reduce launch costs, an ISRO official said not only is the Indian agency “competitive”, but it is working to reduce the cost of access to space through new technology. The effort is to bring down space launch costs to “one-tenth” of what they are now, the official said.

Yang Baohua from the China Aerospace Science and Technological Corporation (CASC), a state-owned entity that develops and manufactures spacecraft and launch vehicles, said the company is “ready to provide cheaper and faster low-earth orbit rocket launches”.

The People’s Daily, the Communist Party‘s mouthpiece, quoted Yang as saying: “The price could be as low as $5,000 per kilogram and the pre-launch preparation will only need a week.”

Will ISRO, known for its cost-effective model, be able to compete?

“We are quite competitive,” ISRO spokesperson Deviprasad Karnik said when Hindustan Times reached out for a comment on China’s plans.

“As of now, India is quite competitive with regard to the prevailing global launch cost. So far, India has launched 209 satellites of nano, micro, mini, and standard size for 28 countries. There is a global move to reduce the cost of access to space to the tune of one-tenth of the prevailing one. India is also working towards that,” Karnik said.

The cost of launching various rockets used by the United Launch Alliance - a joint venture of Lockheed Martin and Boeing that provides services to the US government - ranges between $14,000 a kilogram to $20,000 a kilogram. However, private launch service provider SpaceX plans to bring down costs to about $2,500 a kilogram with its partially reusable rockets.

Karnik outlined some of the steps being taken by ISRO to bring down costs.

”India is developing reusable launch vehicles. We have successfully tested a mission - RLV-TD and Scranjet -TD - in that direction, with TD standing for technology demonstrator. Efforts are on for the full-fledged development of such systems,” he said.

He declined to share details of how much India charges but the fact that India has done launches for 28 countries, including Germany, Canada, The Netherlands and Israel, points toward a sharply competitive model put in place by ISRO.

Karnik said the Chinese effort to reduce costs in the sector was part of a global trend. “As I have already mentioned, the global move is to reduce the cost of access to space to the tune of one-tenth of the prevailing (prices),” he said.

With six manned space missions, China’s space programme is more advanced. But that hasn’t stopped Beijing from closely tracking the commercial aspect of India’s space programme and attempting to make its own cheaper.

“India’s successful launch of a record-breaking 104 satellites into orbit could serve as a wake-up call for China’s commercial space industry and there are a number of lessons for the country to learn,” the nationalistic Global Times tabloid wrote after ISRO broke the Russian record for launching the highest number of satellites at one go in February.

“Competition with India for commercial space launches may be inevitable, and the most urgent action needed for China to expand its market share is to reduce the cost of putting satellites into orbit,” it said.
 
The People’s Daily, the Communist Party‘s mouthpiece, quoted Yang as saying: “The price could be as low as $5,000 per kilogram and the pre-launch preparation will only need a week.”

Will ISRO, known for its cost-effective model, be able to compete?


This is well below Indian price.
China is undercutting India on space cargo/payloads.
 
India's Advantage lies in lower labour prices and govt support.
Surely we can beat SpaceX too once we develop reusable technology

Any how being a dual use technology modi govt will surely pursue this
 
India's Advantage lies in lower labour prices and govt support.
Surely we can beat SpaceX too once we develop reusable technology

Any how being a dual use technology modi govt will surely pursue this

The keyword is "once"... India is full of future tenses such as "once India develop the technology" "In 2020, Indian AF would have at least 50 FGFA"
 
The keyword is "once"... India is full of future tenses such as "once India develop the technology" "In 2020, Indian AF would have at least 50 FGFA"

My favorite is "India will be a Superpower by 2012"

So is this the Supa Powa on mistreatment of women and the oppressed?
See, I told you they are reactive. They react to anything Chinese. China reacts to SpaceX being cheaper, they react to China reacting to SpaceX. The question is why are they not reacting to SpaceX?
 
This is well below Indian price.
China is undercutting India on space cargo/payloads.
Hahahaha lol undercutting?
Every company sending its satellites on Chinese rocket knows that they have 50% chance to reach the space and with such reputation charging high doesn't goes well!!! :cool:

See, I told you they are reactive. They react to anything Chinese. China reacts to SpaceX being cheaper, they react to China reacting to SpaceX. The question is why are they not reacting to SpaceX?
Cause we want to disrupt Chinese operations....space X will further reduce their costs of operation....well you can do it for free...
 
Hahahaha lol undercutting?
Every company sending its satellites on Chinese rocket knows that they have 50% chance to reach the space and with such reputation charging high doesn't goes well!!! :cool:


Cause we want to disrupt Chinese operations....space X will further reduce their costs of operation....well you can do it for free...
Few grand per kg is FREE? You can only improve your technology to offer cheaper solutions. Yah, look for the reliability rates for Indian rockets first bhai.:cool:. Ever wonder why you can only send nano satellites commercially?

Look at this myopic view, it's always to disrupt China, why not disrupt US and be the world leader.
 
Hahahaha lol undercutting?
Every company sending its satellites on Chinese rocket knows that they have 50% chance to reach the space and with such reputation charging high doesn't goes well!!! :cool:


Cause we want to disrupt Chinese operations....space X will further reduce their costs of operation....well you can do it for free...

oh so is that the purpose of Indian space program? to disrupt the Chinese space program? what a great way to spend billions of dollar every year. I just think it could be better use to fund the food relief for millions of malnourished kids in india.
 
oh so is that the purpose of Indian space program? to disrupt the Chinese space program? what a great way to spend billions of dollar every year. I just think it could be better use to fund the food relief for millions of malnourished kids in india.
It's our money and people with no money should better mind their own unstable business.....our space program is for the betterment of our country and neighbouring countries that cannot afford space programs, it's for the farmers, it's for the people of this country, rest all is just leg pulling....

Few grand per kg is FREE? You can only improve your technology to offer cheaper solutions. Yah, look for the reliability rates for Indian rockets first bhai.:cool:. Ever wonder why you can only send nano satellites commercially?

Look at this myopic view, it's always to disrupt China, why not disrupt US and be the world leader. First lesson, FEED YOUR PEOPLE before talking about disrupting China. :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
Again same goes for you too, it's our money we will spend it on anything we like, and about launching nano satellites, what's wrong in it? We cannot launch heavy satellites because we don't have the capability and capability comes with R&D or stealing:p:,we are doing R&D and do something yourself stop using Soviet Union stuff bhai:cheers:.
What do you expect? It's a big world and you will get competition, it's not myopic vision cause we see you people as a benchmark, nothing wrong with it, we accept every good thing you do, I love China it's just the expansionist views that I hate.... otherwise nothing wrong with China...
 
Again same goes for you too, it's our money we will spend it on anything we like, and about launching nano satellites, what's wrong in it? We cannot launch heavy satellites because we don't have the capability and capability comes with R&D or stealing:p:,we are doing R&D and do something yourself stop using Soviet Union stuff bhai:cheers:.
What do you expect? It's a big world and you will get competition, it's not myopic vision cause we see you people as a benchmark, nothing wrong with it, we accept every good thing you do, I love China it's just the expansionist views that I hate.... otherwise nothing wrong with China...
Nothing wrong at all, compete with the world, don't limit yourselves to China OK. You do know the origins of the Indian space program right? How they copied American launchers for the PSLV and Russian cryo for the GSLV?

People who have been always dependent on other nations like Saudi, US and now China must look inward before laughing at India.
Us dependent on others? It's world trade bhai, you think your tech coolies are not dependent on US?:rofl:
 
Nothing wrong at all, compete with the world, don't limit yourselves to China OK. You do know the origins of the Indian space program right? How they copied American launchers for the PSLV and Russian cryo for the GSLV?


Us dependent on others? It's world trade bhai, you think your tech coolies are not dependent on US?:rofl:
I think you don't know anything about Indian space program, we we're denied cryo and other stuff, it's our own R&D that helped Indian space program.
Our program and progress we're tried to sabotaged but even after so many failed attempts India made the cryogenic engines...if it was readly available to us, there would had been no failures but we had 3 GSLV failures and after that it was all ISRO's hard work that payed off....
Somebody once said, if you want to compete the world compete with China...
 
I think you don't know anything about Indian space program, we we're denied cryo and other stuff, it's our own R&D that helped Indian space program.
Our program and progress we're tried to sabotaged but even after so many failed attempts India made the cryogenic engines...if it was readly available to us, there would had been no failures but we had 3 GSLV failures and after that it was all ISRO's hard work that payed off....
Somebody once said, if you want to compete the world compete with China...
Yup, when China reverses technology, you say we copy, here you are reversing Russian cryo and calling it 'indigenous'. You can't even copy it right, that's why it failed so many times.
 
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Yup, when China reverses technology, you say we copy, here you are reversing Russian cryo and calling it 'indigenous'. You can't even copy it right, that's why it failed so many times.
http://indianexpress.com/article/explained/tech-denied-isro-built-cryo-engine-on-its-own-4690709/

https://m.timesofindia.com/india/In...lop-cryogenic-engine/articleshow/28449360.cms

Anything else? We never copy and we don't have any track record of violation of agreement....
 
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