China - NON-MILITARY space activities & Space Industry

[LKJ86]

And after lets say the CZ-9 manned lunar mission , what about the next CNSA super heavy lift launch vehicle for their manned Mars mission ? Do they have plans for something like the Starship ?

Long March 9 is for manned lunar and Mars missions.
And it would be the most powerful rocket in the world at that moment.

 

[SpaceMan18]

Long March 9 is for manned lunar and Mars missions.
And it would be the most powerful rocket in the world at that moment.

Mars mission eh ? Is it more powerful than the Starship or SLS , how will you guys get your taikonaut back from Mars since even the SLS can only do a one way mission ?

Or will you guys send a fuel tank to Mars and when the manned module comes land on Mars it also fuels back up ?

 

[shanlung]

Long March 9 is for manned lunar and Mars missions.
And it would be the most powerful rocket in the world at that moment.

China and Chinese invented gunpowder. And focused on fireworks to give beauty and to entertain
people watching that.

And when pressed by invaders, then turned gunpowder to making and using that as bombs and fire lances and rockets to shoot and defend themselves.

The booster rockets strapped to Long March 9 can be used for very different purposes as well.

Extract from https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/chinese-missiles-news-discussions.84215/post-12847645


Please remember DF-41 got a very big brother coming up as well in case you think DF-41 not worthy enough to deliver dim sum and tea bags and cleaned laundry.
Russia’s RS-28 “Sarmat” ten-ton payload, rated as the most dangerous ICBM . Reportedly it may carry up to fifteen 350 kiloton warheads, or up to twenty-four of the new “Avangard” nuclear-armed Hypersonic Glide Vehicle (HGV) warheads. Sarmat will be dwarfed by Chinese new missile with even larger twenty-ton payload. That will be solid-fuel space-launch vehicle (SLV), and could form the basis for what might become the world’s largest “mobile” ICBM.
The Next China Military Threat: The World's Biggest Mobile ICBM?

So anytime Murica want to rock and roll with China, China will end that rock and roll

 

[LKJ86]

Is it more powerful than the Starship or SLS

It is more powerful than Starship and SLS for sure!

 

[SpaceMan18]

It is more powerful than Starship and SLS for sure!

Eh I kinda doubt eh CZ-9 being more better or powerful than the Starship which is reusable.

CZ-9 is more comparable to the SLS

 

[LKJ86]

Eh I kinda doubt eh CZ-9 being more better or powerful than the Starship which is reusable.

The reuse is not everything.

 

[Team Blue]

It's not everything but it's pretty important for long term feasibility.

 

[siegecrossbow]

So China's manned moon mission will be 2030 right ?

Idk how long the launch tower will take to build but I guess it's quick , I expect CZ-9 to launch this or next year right ?

And after lets say the CZ-9 manned lunar mission , what about the next CNSA super heavy lift launch vehicle for their manned Mars mission ? Do they have plans for something like the Starship ?

Depends on what you mean by manned lunar mission. Manned landing? Snow ball’s chance in hell. Manned orbital of the moon? Maybe. Depends on how well the next gen spaceship progresses.

 

[SpaceMan18]

The reuse is not everything.

Except it kinda is the new trend , you wanna be able to reuse all of the rocket to save on costs , so yes it's everything

Depends on what you mean by manned lunar mission. Manned landing? Snow ball’s chance in hell. Manned orbital of the moon? Maybe. Depends on how well the next gen spaceship progresses.

I mean China has plans to land on the Moon in 2030 soo

 

[Oldman1]

It is more powerful than Starship and SLS for sure!

How you reach that conclusion? More powerful than Starship?

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

I mean China has plans to land on the Moon in 2030 soo

No point putting a man on moon without a moon base. It is very risky for the life of astronaut.

 

[lcloo]

Recap on a news dated 2020 November 26th regarding China's Moonbase program.

"Not long after China's Chang'e-5 moon sampler was launched into space, an official working at China's space program mentioned again the plan for a moon research base.

"Chang'e-6, 7 and 8 will be gradually carried out," said Xu Hongliang, Secretary General at the China National Space Administration (CNSA), China's equivalent of NASA.

"An international lunar research base is also planned," he added."

link:-
China is planning a moon research base that may reshape the space race - CGTN



Russia and China agreed to jointly build an international moon base:-
Russia and China are going to build a Moon base together, and NASA isn’t invited (yahoo.com)

 

[SpaceMan18]

No point putting a man on moon without a moon base. It is very risky for the life of astronaut.

I mean America did it in the 60s idk what's dangerous about that ?

Recap on a news dated 2020 November 26th regarding China's Moonbase program.

"Not long after China's Chang'e-5 moon sampler was launched into space, an official working at China's space program mentioned again the plan for a moon research base.

"Chang'e-6, 7 and 8 will be gradually carried out," said Xu Hongliang, Secretary General at the China National Space Administration (CNSA), China's equivalent of NASA.

"An international lunar research base is also planned," he added."

link:-
China is planning a moon research base that may reshape the space race - CGTN



Russia and China agreed to jointly build an international moon base:-
Russia and China are going to build a Moon base together, and NASA isn’t invited (yahoo.com)

Kinda sad that NASA wanted to work with the CNSA but of course the Chinese aren't quite trusted at times cause you know " intellectual property theft" and of course the U.S government saying no and the CCP not going hard against the copycat issues at times or property theft

 

[LKJ86]

How you reach that conclusion? More powerful than Starship?

LOL
You will adapt to the new era.

 

[dbc]

LOL
You will adapt to the new era.

if we calculate payload the same way the Chinese do then SLS payload is 156.9 metric ton.
So still winning...