China:Muslims,Tibetans unwelcome in the Party.

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China's Muslims prepare for sacred pilgrimage

Updated: 2012-09-26 08:07 By Xue Chaohua in Lanzhou and Cui Jia in Beijing ( China Daily)

China's Muslims prepare for sacred pilgrimage[1]|chinadaily.com.cn

After five years on the waiting list, Wang Wancheng finally boarded a chartered flight from China to Saudi Arabia on Tuesday night for the annual pilgrimage to Mecca

Muslims are ready to board a chartered flight from Lanzhou, Gansu province, to Saudi Arabia. A total of 332 Muslims took the first flight on Tuesday. Xue Chaohua / China Daily



Wang, a 60-year-old Muslim who runs a small business in Northwest China's Gansu province, applied for a seat on the aircraft arranged by the China Islamic Association as early as 2007, when he was able to afford the 35,000 yuan ($5,550) trip.

He said he was overwhelmed by joy that he can join 299 others from Gansu's Dongxiang to perform the hajj in Mecca this year.

In his village, it is certainly breaking news, and residents held a farewell party on Sunday before he headed for Lanzhou, the provincial capital, where the chartered plane took off.

After about a 10-hour flight, the group of 332 Muslims is expected to land in Medina, 427 kilometers north of Mecca in Saudi Arabia, on early Wednesday (Beijing time). In Medina, the pilgrims will first visit the Prophet's Mosque before heading to Mecca for the hajj.

The China Islamic Association planned 82 chartered flights this year to send more than 13,800 Chinese Muslims to Saudi Arabia for the annual pilgrimage. The aircraft taking Wang is the first flight this year, and everyone taking the flights is expected to arrive in Mecca by Oct 18.

The chartered flights organized by the association will take off in the coming few days from cities populated by large numbers of Muslims.

Currently, more than 23 million Muslims call China home. Islam entered the country around 1,300 years ago.

The number of Chinese Muslims taking the trip is increasing every year as incomes rise, said Guo Chengzhen, the association's vice-president. "Only about 1,000 people went to the holy city in 1989 when the association first organized chartered flights for the pilgrimage."

Muslims who are healthy and wealthy enough to go on the 38-day trip are required to apply to the local branches of the association first.

But there is a long waiting list in provinces and regions in western China with large Muslim populations, and some may have to wait for years, Guo said. "In some coastal regions without such a large number of Muslims, applicants may be able to go just one year after submitting their applications or even sooner."

Among the 13,800 Chinese pilgrims this year, about 3,200 are from the Xinjiang Uygur autonomous region - the largest group of all.

Besides organizing the trip, the association also takes care of the Chinese pilgrims during the physically demanding journey.

There will be a special medical team including 52 doctors and paramedics to go with the pilgrims, whose average age is 62. "We require staff members who are there to assist the pilgrims carrying medications for heart attacks at any time," Guo said.

From assigning imams who will guide the pilgrims during the hajj, to making ID cards with Chinese flags and contact details, the association's services are worked out to every detail. "We almost have contingency plans for everything. We have to prepare enough ice just in case the air conditioning in the tents doesn't work during the heat in Mecca," he said.

The association organized several training sessions in China, from introducing procedures during the hajj to knowledge of basic international traveling, as some of the Muslims may have never set foot outside their villages before.

Very very disgusting

shame on china

very disgusting indian cheerleaders supporting the separatists

shame on india!

 

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Everywhere hans go they make trouble and destroy other people and culture

take as many as you can cheerleaders! separatists are not wanted in our country

 

[shuttler]

So you destroy their homes and buildings where they lived for hundreds of years so u hans can move in?

China to Bulldoze Old Kashgar, A Major Center of Islamic & Uighur Culture | Hrag Vartanian

vast majority of 23 millions hui and muslims living peacefully together with us in China! FACT!

separatists are none of your buz here.

you indian cheerleaders forget how atrocious you are treating dalits, muslims and the rebels in your own land!

 

[BigDaddyWatch]

This thread is about China and I lived in Europe where muslims are free to practise their religion and have all the freedom they want but you have some shariah4uk fags who cause trouble

And we all know how well Indians are treating Muslims, right ? Does Kashmir ring a bell. Total hypocrisy for Indians to take a moral high ground on minority issues considering their own track record.

 

[xuxu1457]

Wang Lixiong, writer, one trouble maker of CPC, he won U.S. Hellman / Hammett Writing Award for Human Rights in 2003, 2004 he married with Woeser, is also a writer, and Tibetan;

So just as gov has a name list, in which the people who made troubles or criminal before，these people will be called quite during such Olympic Games or big conference


王力雄简介 – 【人人分享-人人网】

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

China's Muslims prepare for sacred pilgrimage

Updated: 2012-09-26 08:07 By Xue Chaohua in Lanzhou and Cui Jia in Beijing ( China Daily)

China's Muslims prepare for sacred pilgrimage[1]|chinadaily.com.cn

After five years on the waiting list, Wang Wancheng finally boarded a chartered flight from China to Saudi Arabia on Tuesday night for the annual pilgrimage to Mecca

Muslims are ready to board a chartered flight from Lanzhou, Gansu province, to Saudi Arabia. A total of 332 Muslims took the first flight on Tuesday. Xue Chaohua / China Daily



Wang, a 60-year-old Muslim who runs a small business in Northwest China's Gansu province, applied for a seat on the aircraft arranged by the China Islamic Association as early as 2007, when he was able to afford the 35,000 yuan ($5,550) trip.

He said he was overwhelmed by joy that he can join 299 others from Gansu's Dongxiang to perform the hajj in Mecca this year.

In his village, it is certainly breaking news, and residents held a farewell party on Sunday before he headed for Lanzhou, the provincial capital, where the chartered plane took off.

After about a 10-hour flight, the group of 332 Muslims is expected to land in Medina, 427 kilometers north of Mecca in Saudi Arabia, on early Wednesday (Beijing time). In Medina, the pilgrims will first visit the Prophet's Mosque before heading to Mecca for the hajj.

The China Islamic Association planned 82 chartered flights this year to send more than 13,800 Chinese Muslims to Saudi Arabia for the annual pilgrimage. The aircraft taking Wang is the first flight this year, and everyone taking the flights is expected to arrive in Mecca by Oct 18.

The chartered flights organized by the association will take off in the coming few days from cities populated by large numbers of Muslims.

Currently, more than 23 million Muslims call China home. Islam entered the country around 1,300 years ago.

The number of Chinese Muslims taking the trip is increasing every year as incomes rise, said Guo Chengzhen, the association's vice-president. "Only about 1,000 people went to the holy city in 1989 when the association first organized chartered flights for the pilgrimage."

Muslims who are healthy and wealthy enough to go on the 38-day trip are required to apply to the local branches of the association first.

But there is a long waiting list in provinces and regions in western China with large Muslim populations, and some may have to wait for years, Guo said. "In some coastal regions without such a large number of Muslims, applicants may be able to go just one year after submitting their applications or even sooner."

Among the 13,800 Chinese pilgrims this year, about 3,200 are from the Xinjiang Uygur autonomous region - the largest group of all.

Besides organizing the trip, the association also takes care of the Chinese pilgrims during the physically demanding journey.

There will be a special medical team including 52 doctors and paramedics to go with the pilgrims, whose average age is 62. "We require staff members who are there to assist the pilgrims carrying medications for heart attacks at any time," Guo said.

From assigning imams who will guide the pilgrims during the hajj, to making ID cards with Chinese flags and contact details, the association's services are worked out to every detail. "We almost have contingency plans for everything. We have to prepare enough ice just in case the air conditioning in the tents doesn't work during the heat in Mecca," he said.

The association organized several training sessions in China, from introducing procedures during the hajj to knowledge of basic international traveling, as some of the Muslims may have never set foot outside their villages before.



very disgusting indian cheerleaders supporting the separatists

shame on india!

Summary: A Uighur businesswoman and author, who is also a staff member of the Xinjiang Region Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference, described mass detentions of Uighurs in the wake of the early-July ethnic violence in Urumqi. She described how she was almost detained August 12 after attempting to stop a police assault on a Uighur woman. Our contact recounted unsubstantiated reports that between one and two thousand Uighurs were killed by security forces during and immediately after the unrest. Uighurs and Han alike are furious at Xinjiang Party Secretary Wang Lequan, who is blamed for the violence by both groups, she said. Tensions are so high in Urumqi, according to our source, that she has decided to relocate temporarily to Beijing. Senior ethnic-Uighur Communist Party cadres are helpless to change the government's harsh policies toward minorities, she claimed. Meanwhile, authorities continue to confiscate the passports of Uighur men, including her husband, to prevent unauthorized Hajj travel. End Summary.

¶2. (S) PolOff spoke September 9 and September 23 with Dildar Eziz (strictly protect), a Uighur businesswoman, author and government employee. Trained in law, Eziz works as an editor in the policy research department of the Xinjiang Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference (CPPCC). She also runs a cosmetology school in downtown Urumqi near the center of the July 5 riots. Peaceful Protest Turns Deadly -----------------------------

¶3. (S) Eziz's account of the initial demonstration by Uighur students July 5 largely tracks with that of other contacts (ref A). Eziz said she saw Uighur students marching along Jiefang South Road, where her cosmetology school is located, to demonstrate against the June 26 violence against Uighur workers at a toy factory in Shaoguan, Guangdong Province. The student-led marches were peaceful, she said, with many carrying the PRC flag. Soon after the demonstration started, Public Security Bureau (PSB) officers used harsh, though non-lethal, methods against the protestors as the marchers entered Urumqi's South Gate (Nanmen) traffic square. PSB officers, she said, grabbed, and even stomped on, the flags carried by the Uighur students. Eziz said this rough treatment of the students threw a crowd of Uighur bystanders into a rage, starting the violence.

¶4. (S) Eziz acknowledged the violence by Uighurs during the night of July 5. Eziz, who did not claim to have witnessed security forces using lethal force, said she had heard stories -- and believed -- that People's Armed Police (PAP) troops sent in to quell the riots had opened fire in Uighur neighborhoods with automatic weapons. According to these rumors, PAP forces had killed "one to two thousand Uighurs" in and around Urumqi during the riots. Starting in the early hours of July 6, the rumors went, security forces had surreptitiously cremated the bodies of Uighur dead and buried the remains in a mass grave. Eziz said she did not personally know any of the Uighurs who died in the violence, though the son of a friend had been missing since July 5. (Note: Rumors of Uighur deaths numbering in the hundreds or thousands and accounts of secret cremations and burials have been repeated by several Uighur contacts and are circulating widely in the Uighur community. Post has no independent information confirming these accounts. We include this account as an example of the narratives that are informing Uighur public opinion about the riots.) United in Anger at Wang Lequan ------------------------------ BEIJING 00002753 002.2 OF 003

¶5. (S) Asked about the demonstrations that started September 3 over reports of syringe attacks, Eziz expressed skepticism that Uighurs were responsible for the attacks. She speculated that the incidents had been manufactured by Chinese authorities to focus Han grievances on Uighurs. Eziz said in the aftermath of July 5, Uighurs and Han alike were furious at Xinjiang Party Secretary Wang Lequan, whom Eziz accused of fomenting ethnic hatred over his 15-year rule of Xinjiang. Uighurs hated Wang Lequan because he "coddles the Han while showing an iron fist toward Uighurs." However, Eziz observed, since July 5, Han had also turned against Wang because they saw him as ultimately responsible for the violence. Uighurs Can Be Detained Anytime, Anywhere


----------------------------------------- ¶6. (S) Eziz said that, since the July 5 riots, authorities had engaged in large-scale, indiscriminate detentions of Uighurs. Some Uighurs with high-level government connections had also been caught in the dragnet. Eziz said the daughter of the former head of the Urumqi City CPPCC, whom Eziz described as a family friend, had been detained for several days and emerged from the ordeal severely traumatized. Eziz said she had nearly been detained herself August 12 when she witnessed a Uighur woman being slapped by a female Han PSB police officer in downtown Urumqi. The PSB had arrived after the woman, who was holding an infant, had argued with a Han shopkeeper who had refused to allow her to use his store's public phone. Eziz said she had loudly berated the PSB officer for slapping the women. The policewoman then threatened to detain Eziz, and the situation was only defused when Eziz's supervisor at the Xinjiang CPPCC appeared and apologized to the officer on Eziz's behalf. Three days later, in what Eziz described as a clear attempt to intimidate her, a group of seven PSB and PAP officers arrived at her house to "check her papers." Eziz said that after the incident, she decided to move temporarily to Beijing. She said she planned to remain in Beijing for at least six months while she writes a book about the July 5 riot, which she hopes to publish abroad.

¶7. (S) Eziz said the events of the last few months had convinced her to resign from her job with the Xinjiang CPPCC. "Many Uighurs no longer want to be part of government." Uighur policemen no longer wanted to do their jobs after seeing prison conditions and people dying. Prisons in Xinjiang were filled beyond capacity, Eziz said. Eziz claimed to know of an unnamed prison in the mountains east of Urumqi that was so large it "looks like a city." Even before the July 5 riot, she alleged, the secret facility had held many Uighur political prisoners. Little Faith in Ethnic-Uighur Cadres ------------------------------------


¶8. (S) Eziz described senior ethnic-Uighur cadres as demoralized and powerless to influence government policies toward minorities. Eziz said she was close to former NPC Vice Chairman Ismail Amat. She described Amat as sympathetic to Uighur concerns, but "in the end he always listens to the Party." While in office, Amat had pushed to amend China's laws to give minority regions more autonomy but found little interest among China's top leadership for such changes, she said. Eziz spoke to Amat in Hotan (Hetian) after the July 5 riot and, though visibly upset, he would not criticize the government's handling of the crisis. He urged Eziz to be less outspoken in her criticism of authorities. Amat, according to Eziz, was counseling Uighur elites to "keep their heads down" and wait out this "difficult period." She said Uighurs as a group had a very low opinion of Xinjiang Chairman Nur Bekri and Urumqi Mayor Jerla Isamudin, both of whom she described as unwilling to stand up for Uighur interests. Eziz said current Xinjiang People's Congress Chairman Arken Imirbaki and his predecessor Abdurehim Amet (who retired in 2008) enjoyed a somewhat better image among Uighurs. Passport Confiscations BEIJING 00002753 003 OF 003 ----------------------

¶9. (S) Eziz, echoing other contacts in Xinjiang (refs B-D), said most Uighur men were not allowed to possess passports due to the Chinese government's efforts to restrict unauthorized Hajj travel. Eziz said her husband had had his passport confiscated after he retired recently from his job as deputy editor of a government-published Uighur-language literary magazine. Eziz called the move "ridiculous" because her husband was "hardly a devout Muslim." Uighurs typically had to pay large deposits to the government before they could travel abroad, though she noted such requirements were not as strict in Urumqi as in other cities in Xinjiang. The deposits were intended to guarantee that the travelers would not attend the Hajj, she said. Rebiya Kadeer Buildings

----------------------- ¶10. (S) Eziz was aware of efforts by Urumqi officials to close down three buildings owned by Rebiya Kadeer's family. The buildings were to be torn down or turned over for use "by the military," Eziz said. Eziz told PolOff she had known Rebiya Kadeer in the 1990s and had provided Kadeer with legal advice in a court case in 1997. Government prosecutors involved in the case, Eziz said, later detained her for two days as a result of the assistance she provided to Kadeer. Additional Bio Notes -------------------- ¶11. (S) Born in 1959 in Hotan (Hetian), Dildar Eziz graduated in 1980 from Kashgar Normal University with a degree in Uighur literature. From 1995 to 1998, she studied law at a training institute for cadres in Urumqi. She has written nine books, all in Uighur, including four novels and several studies on comparative literature and women's issues. She has also helped produce several documentaries for Xinjiang's provincial television station. Eziz told PolOff that around 2003 she declined an invitation to join the Communist Party. From 2004 to 2005, thanks to book royalties and the success of her cosmetology school, Eziz was able to self-fund a year of study at the Sorbonne in Paris. She recently won a Xinjiang government scholarship to return to France to continue her studies in comparative Uighur/French literature. Eziz said she planned to leave for France in March 2010, though she said she had no desire to seek asylum abroad. HUNTSMAN

Uighur Businesswoman Describes Xinjiang Region Tensions

India concerns wrt to Xinjiang is possibility of access to Central Asia via China, if Xinjiang is in such unrest, India will have to look for another way.

 

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They are not separatists they lived there for hundreds of years but you hans just destroyed their homes and mosque just so u can take their land then u call them separatists lol

Chinese town threatened by modernization – Business 360 - CNN.com Blogs

In the ancient market city of Kashgar, traders have been wheeling and dealing for thousands of years. For centuries, the city was dominated by the Uighurs - a Turkic speaking Muslim people - now considered a minority group in China.

The government is now investing heavily to revive this sleepy backwater and transform it into a modern day boom town.

Yet critics say there the Uighur's cultural heritage is being lost.


Photographer Wu Xiangqian has been documenting the changes to the historic city, considered home to some of the best Central Asian architecture.

"What I shot a few years ago has already disappeared," he told CNN’s Eunice Yoon. "I'm concerned the transformation could destroy the traditional culture."

Traditional Central Asian homes are being demolished as part of a mass modernization program.

this is the group of terrorists and separatists here:

http://www.defence.pk/forums/chinese-defence/13027-chinese-muslims-linked-games-bombings.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/31023-muslims-urged-attack-chinese-interests.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/chinese-defence/185771-blast-xinjiang-school-injures-17-say-china-media.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/china-far-east/124816-china-pakistan-extradites-5-uyghurs-china.html

These are our stances:

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/208567-china-warns-against-insults-islam.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/125113-relations-between-uighurs-han-chinese-not-all-bad.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/190585-islam-flourishes-chinas-ningxia-region.html

this is cheerleading india

http://www.defence.pk/forums/central-south-asia/218187-caste-hindus-torch-285-dalit-huts-tamil-nadu.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/kashmir-war/100298-atrocities-kashmir-indian-obduracy.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/indian-defence/193142-anti-naxal-operations-crpf-go-offensive.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/members-club/1307-gujarat-genocide-first-accounts-video.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/indian-defence/47621-indias-maoist-threat-insurgency-news-discussion.html

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

this is the group of terrorists and separatists here:

http://www.defence.pk/forums/chinese-defence/13027-chinese-muslims-linked-games-bombings.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/31023-muslims-urged-attack-chinese-interests.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/chinese-defence/185771-blast-xinjiang-school-injures-17-say-china-media.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/china-far-east/124816-china-pakistan-extradites-5-uyghurs-china.html

These are our stances:

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/208567-china-warns-against-insults-islam.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/125113-relations-between-uighurs-han-chinese-not-all-bad.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/190585-islam-flourishes-chinas-ningxia-region.html

this is cheerleading india

http://www.defence.pk/forums/central-south-asia/218187-caste-hindus-torch-285-dalit-huts-tamil-nadu.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/kashmir-war/100298-atrocities-kashmir-indian-obduracy.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/indian-defence/193142-anti-naxal-operations-crpf-go-offensive.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/members-club/1307-gujarat-genocide-first-accounts-video.html

CCP certified cherry picking.

No matter how much you can scavenge on India, you will never find any data of Indian Govt engaging in ethnic dilution like CCP has done.

 

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CCP certified cherry picking.

No matter how much you can scavenge on India, you will never find any data of Indian Govt engaging in ethnic dilution like CCP has done.

indian government backed massacres and hardlining crackdowns:


India politician guilty of murder for Gujarat riots – The Express Tribune


Operation Green Hunt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Armed Forces (Special Powers) Act, 1958 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Operation Blue Star - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

You do know what ethnic dilution means don't you?

indian government backed massacres and hardlining crackdowns:

India politician guilty of murder for Gujarat riots – The Express Tribune

If the above is Indian Govt backed, then how is that its was Indian court which found the perpetrator guilty?

AHMEDABAD: An Indian court on Wednesday convicted a former state minister of murder for her involvement in a massacre of Muslims during religious riots in Gujarat in 2002, a prosecutor said.

Operation Green Hunt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

How is this a massacre?

Armed Forces (Special Powers) Act, 1958 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is a draconian law, that it

Operation Blue Star - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The above is only instance Indian Govt backed massacre.

 

[shuttler]

If the above is Indian Govt backed, then how is that its was Indian court which found the perpetrator guilty?

you have no other way of covering up any further

How is this a massacre?

operation green hunt is military operation against the uprising native indians who are up against indian government for their ruthless policies and discrimination against the tribal people - the indian army carry out shoot to kill policy

This is a draconian law, that it

no question ask! the military people can kill anyone suspicious on sight

The above is only instance Indian Govt backed massacre.

now you confess as if the world dont know how cheerleading indians terror on their people!

what about the Kashmir Mass Graves?

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

you have no other way of covering up any further

By extension of your logic Any case where by CCP to held trail post an incident is an attempt to cover up.

operation green hunt is military operation against the uprising native indians who are up against indian for their ruthless policies and discrimination of them - the indian army carry out shoot to kill policy

Indian Govt discriminates against tribals? Never knew this.

no question ask! the military people can kill anyone suspicious on sight

Did you even read the law

Where does it say? : "no question ask! the military people can kill anyone suspicious on sight"

now you confess as if the world dont know how cheerleading indians terror on their people!

We "cheerleading indians terror on their people!" ? more like terror on Chinese here

what about the Kashmir Mass Graves?

Until we have DNA tests on them, one can't say where those buried are from


End of the post, My statement stands, no matter how much you scavenge, you won't any data of Indian Govt attempting ethnic dilution.

 

[shuttler]

China should be divided to have peace in asia.

thank you for offering the best suggestion for the solution of problematic india!

By extension of your logic Any case where by CCP to held trail post an incident is an attempt to cover up.

Indian Govt discriminates against tribals? Never knew this.

Did you even read the law

Where does it say? : "no question ask! the military people can kill anyone suspicious on sight"

We "cheerleading indians terror on their people!" ? more like terror on Chinese here

Until we have DNA tests on them, one can't say where those buried are from


End of the post, My statement stands, no matter how much you scavenge, you won't any data of Indian Govt attempting ethnic dilution.

you can stand in the shade of conscience against your people permanently

the wordings of the article spell out my points clearly. dont know your reading comprehension is on that much level

My last reply to the indian related matters I hope, not wanting to to derail the thread

 

[PakShah]

lol American media. They are known to lie alot.

How can you take them seriously. Their journalism is among the worst in the world.

 

[anarchy 99]

lol American media. They are known to lie alot.

How can you take them seriously. Their journalism is among the worst in the world.

Western media is all propaganda. When it comes to brainwashing propaganda, no one bests the western media.