China may match Obama support for India for UN seat

[The HBS Guy]

China may match Obama support for India for UN seat​

NEW DELHI: With US President Barack Obama declaring support for India's bid for a permanent seat, China may move beyond its stated position by announcing a more pointed support for New Delhi's place on the global high table during Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao's visit next month. The Chinese premier is expected to visit India Dec 16-17, his first trip to the country in five years.

Highly-placed sources told IANS there were some indications already that the Chinese premier may announce a more evolved position on India's bid for a permanent seat on the UN Security Council, which will be more advanced than its articulation on the issue so far.

Sources disclosed that Beijing may surprise New Delhi and belie critics who think the US support was meant to counter China's ascent on the global stage.

"The Chinese premier may come out with a clearer support for India's Security Council ambitions.It's quite possible," Srikanth Kondapalli, a China expert who closely tracks Beijing's moves, told IANS.

India will seek China's support for its candidature for a reformed UNSC when External Affairs Minister S.M. Krishna goes to Wuhan to attend the trilateral meeting of foreign minister of Russia, India and China Nov 14 and during National Security Adviser Shivshankar Menon's boundary talks later this month, official sources said.

These meetings will also firm up the agenda for Wen's visit next month.

A day after Obama endorsed India's bid for permanent seat in the UNSC, a Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson Tuesday said in Beijing that China was ready for consultations over the issue and values India's status in the international affairs and understands India's aspirations to play a greater role in the United Nations. Beijing's willingness to discuss the issue is seen here as "a step forward" ahead of Wen's visit.

Lalit Mansingh, a former foreign secretary, feels that Beijing may make feel-good noises, but is unlikely to announce unequivocal support, which would be deeply resented by its all-weather ally Pakistan.

"As with the nuclear deal, however, Beijing won't stand in India's way if the US throws its full weight behind India," he said.

President Pratibha Patil sought Beijing's support for Security Council seat during her visit to China in May. Chinese President Hu Jintao assured her that China was ready to discuss the complex issues relating to India's quest for a permanent seat in the United Nations Security Council, a marked improvement over its earlier stance about India playing a bigger role in global affairs.

Wen has also said China wanted to ensure "a greater role for India in the UN especially in the Security Council."

Wen is coming to India amid a stressful period in bilateral relations that has been clouded by a host of issues, including the Chinese stapled visas for Indian citizens of Jammu and Kashmir and massive investment plans in Pakistan-controlled Kashmir.

If the Chinese premier does declare Beijing's support, it could generate a powerful positive momentum in bilateral relations, sources said. Interestingly, Beijing has already begun to acknowledge India's surging global status. Recently, Beijing elevated China's ambassador to India Zhang Yan to the position equivalent to that of vice foreign minister, a status it gives to only Chinese ambassadors to P5 countries.

Significantly, Wen last visited India in April 2005 barely two months after US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice proclaimed for the first time at a university in Tokyo that the US will help India in becoming a major power.

Wen's 2005 visit saw India and China elevating their relationship to the level of strategic partnership and finalizing guiding principles and political parameters to resolve the boundary dispute. Again, after India and the US struck the landmark nuclear deal in July 2005, Chinese President Hu Jintao visited India in Nov 2006 during which the two sides finalized the 10-point strategy to deepen bilateral relationship.

"This is a pattern. Every time the US inches closer to the US, Beijing watches it carefully and tries to assure India that it's is not against India's rise.

"This time, China may announce support to dispel the impression of rivalry," Kondapalli said. With Obama declaring US support for India's permanent seat bid, only China remains to express its support among the five permanent members of the UN Security Council.

Britain, France and Russia have already pledged support for India's permanent seat in the global body. French President Nicholas Sarkozy and his Russian counterpart Dmitry Medvedev are also set to visit India in December and are expected to reiterate their support for India's UN aspirations, making 2010 the year of India's UN diplomacy.

India was elected by a record margin to a non-permanent seat in the UN Security Council last month and will take charge in the council from Jan 1, 2011.

China may match Obama support for India for UN seat - The Economic Times

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China is keeping its cards close to its chest. Let's see which way the tide turns.

 

[Surrender2me]

I think till November 5 china was opposite to India,But when US and India came closer,why is this Sudden development??
But if china supports India in UNSC,isn't it betraying it's all weather ally pakistan???
Or else are they just pretending???

 

[The HBS Guy]

I think till November 5 china was opposite to India,But when US and India came closer,why is this Sudden development??
But if china supports India in UNSC,isn't it betraying it's all weather ally pakistan???
Or else are they just pretending???

Whether they are pretending or not only time will tell but such a move, if China makes it, will go a long long way in reducing the trust deficit between the two countries.

 

[Jade]

China may not directly veto India's candidature; however, it could use Japan as an excuse to scuttle India's plan.

 

[The HBS Guy]

China may not directly veto India's candidature; however, it could use Japan as an excuse to scuttle India's plan.

Not to divert from the issue but Japan's and India's cases are entirely different.

Japan has more or less only the economic aspect on its side.

Whereas India as all three i.e. economic, military and population aspects on its side.

 

[MYSTIC]

it just keeps getting interesting. Well played China. Well played.

 

[Avatar]

Experts predict that India could expect to be a permanent UNSC member as soon as 2012. Lets hope for the best.

This move by China will bring the two Asian giants much closer. Let's hope they keep the word.

Xie'xie'ni

 

[Mirza Jatt]

I think till November 5 china was opposite to India,But when US and India came closer,why is this Sudden development??
But if china supports India in UNSC,isn't it betraying it's all weather ally pakistan???
Or else are they just pretending???

actually its sad that it is being looked upon by some this way. India's UN bid should have nothing to do with pakistan. India has evolved as a major player in the world both in military and economic..considering its growing influence, its not surprising that China would support India in its aspirations...this shouldnt be seen as a betrayal to pakistan as well...not doubt that will irk them largely if it happens,but its time even they realise there is a big difference now between India and pakistan and accept india's bigger role in global matters.

 

[Mirza Jatt]

Experts predict that India could expect to be a permanent UNSC member as soon as 2012. Lets hope for the best.

This move by China will bring the two Asian giants much closer. Let's hope they keep the word.

Xie'xie'ni

exactly. i would go one step ahead to say that this move from china might erase the remaining doubts on the minds of few skeptics, who say that india and China might go for a war in future.

 

[unforgotton_man]

Not to divert from the issue but Japan's and India's cases are entirely different.

Japan has more or less only the economic aspect on its side.

Whereas India as all three i.e. economic, military and population aspects on its side.

The United States Wednesday clarified that it does support India’s bid for UNSC permanent seat but its membership should be without veto power.

Spokesman of US Embassy in Islamabad said this while talking exclusively to Geo News.

He said the Unite States is supportive of UNSC reforms and in the backdrop of global realities it endorses membership of India, Germany and Japan for permanent UNSC seat sans veto.

The US Embassy spokesman also said that Pakistan Foreign Secretary Salman Bashir and US Ambassador Cameron Munter had an exchange of views on matters of mutual interest at a meeting held recently.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

China may not directly veto India's candidature; however, it could use Japan as an excuse to scuttle India's plan.

Well you can easily avoid that. If you're going to put forward a resolution for UNSC reform, then don't include Japan on it.

This move by China will bring the two Asian giants much closer. Let's hope they keep the word.

Xie'xie'ni

Nice one buddy.

 

[luckyyy]

china support to india at UNSC parmanent seat won't go down well with pakistan...

but ,unlike pakistan , china can't ignore the economic/market importence of india .....

$60bn annual bilateral trade speeks for itself.....but i expect some more bargaining , few more give/take on economic front can't ruled out ......some relexation on domping duty , opening market for more chinese products , anything..... it's a moving world

 

[Jade]

Not to divert from the issue but Japan's and India's cases are entirely different.

Japan has more or less only the economic aspect on its side.

Whereas India as all three i.e. economic, military and population aspects on its side.

Yes Japan and India are different cases…and India has better claims then anyone at present in the world….I was only explaining how China could scuttle India’s plans. China would never say “no” directly to India, so could use Japan

 

[Jade]

Well you can easily avoid that. If you're going to put forward a resolution for UNSC reform, then don't include Japan on it.

Yes, you are right; however, it is not easy. That is why I think, it would take a very long time before any UNSC reforms to happen....If reforms happen, then India is sure to be in

 

[S_O_C_O_M]

China is never going to do it. They are just pulling your legs. Its fighting a proxy war with india through Pakistan. Now its going to endrose india's UNSC permanent seat.

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