China leaves US trailing in race to build warships，Beijing’s shipbuilding capacity 230 times greater than American yards, US intelligence admits

[hari sud]

Lol, your fool navy will be obliterated by Chinese navy in the first hour, want to try it and see what will happen ? Besides cow dungs, what else good products can your supa pawa country produce to make you so bullish in your claims ?

Inexperienced brand new Chinese navy who are afraid of the deep sea and do not know how to navigate without detection thru Straits of Malacca are getting ready to meet their doom in Indian Ocean.

 

[beijingwalker]

Inexperienced brand new Chinese navy who are afraid of the deep sea and do not know how to navigate without detection thru Straits of Malacca are getting ready to meet their doom in Indian Ocean.

Lol, a slave loves its master more than its master loving itself.

 

[etylo]

Inexperienced brand new Chinese navy who are afraid of the deep sea and do not know how to navigate without detection thru Straits of Malacca are getting ready to meet their doom in Indian Ocean.

In Your dream.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

it is the capacity and the capability together during war time that win the war.

but it seems with back to back wars imposed on countries for more than 3 decades now, US is not only lagging behind in developing capacity that meet China but also lacking budget which is hampering the will to do so.

they can't afford a war, i would say both can't afford war and they know it very well.

there is only chest thumping that will keep going between them.

The USA wants a Cold War 2.0 for her collective strategic knowledge, experience, expertise etc. are based on that. The countries bordering China must choose: either with US or against US....

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

Ha Ha, US can always outsource shipbuilding to another supa pawa India, American new best friend, to build all the naval ships for them.

Indian jokers built 5 subs in 20 years.

Indians are worse than the US.

 

[F-22Raptor]

There are those who believe that a country without the world's strongest shipbuilding industry can have the world's strongest navy for a long time.

The USN has over two and a half times the VLS tubes than China and vastly superior in carrier aviation and undersea warfare capability.

Chinas shipbuilding capacity won’t mean much when every inch of Chinese naval yards has been pre sighted in US war plans. It takes years to construct modern warships. It’s going to be very difficult for China to construct and repair warships under the mass and precision of US bombs and missiles.

 

[beijingwalker]

Chinas shipbuilding capacity won’t mean much when every inch of Chinese naval yards has been pre sighted in US war plans. It takes years to construct modern warships. It’s going to be very difficult for China to construct and repair warships under the mass and precision of US bombs and missiles.

Lol, you moron really talk big, China now is already outbuilding US in battleship by a massive margin, why haven't done anything about it besides " lamenting" ?

US Navy laments China's shipbuilding supremacy - Asia Times

The US is seemingly at a loss to match China’s ascendant naval shipbuilding capacity as US Navy leaders engage in a blame game rather than addressing past

asiatimes.com

 

[MH.Yang]

The USN has over two and a half times the VLS tubes than China and vastly superior in carrier aviation and undersea warfare capability.

Chinas shipbuilding capacity won’t mean much when every inch of Chinese naval yards has been pre sighted in US war plans. It takes years to construct modern warships. It’s going to be very difficult for China to construct and repair warships under the mass and precision of US bombs and missiles.

I suggest you declare war immediately. Because China has been launching an average of 170,000 tons of warships per year for the last few years. The gap between the Chinese Navy and the US Navy is not that big anymore.
within 10 years, the naval power of the two countries will be flipped.

 

[F-22Raptor]

I suggest you declare war immediately. Because China has been launching an average of 170,000 tons of warships per year for the last few years. The gap between the Chinese Navy and the US Navy is not that big anymore.
within 10 years, the naval power of the two countries will be flipped.

The Soviets had a larger 650 ship Navy by the end of the Cold War that had global power projection capability. It never mattered.

The USN has over 10,000 VLS tubes, hundreds of 4th and 5th generation aircraft, highly advanced undersea warfare capabilities, all connected on the most advanced battle networks in the world.

The PLAN can't project any significant power outside the first island chain. The PLAN is nowhere near the USNs level.

 

[Maira La]

Lol, a slave loves its master more than its master loving itself.

Indians are comfortable in White man dominated world and don't want a change in status quo.

Even though in this status quo they are at the bottom of the pile..

India ranks 107 on 2022 Global Hunger Index, behind Pakistan, Bangladesh and Nepal

In Asia, Afghanistan with a rank of 109 is the only country behind India. Neighbouring countries - Pakistan (99), Bangladesh (84), Nepal (81) and Sri Lanka (64) have all fared better than India.

economictimes.indiatimes.com

 

[beijingwalker]

The Soviets had a larger 650 ship Navy by the end of the Cold War that had global power projection capability. It never mattered.

The USN has over 10,000 VLS tubes, hundreds of 4th and 5th generation aircraft, highly advanced undersea warfare capabilities, all connected on the most advanced battle networks in the world.

The PLAN can't project any significant power outside the first island chain. The PLAN is nowhere near the USNs level.

Talking is cheap, when will we see the US bombs and missiles coming as you promised?

 

[MH.Yang]

The Soviets had a larger 650 ship Navy by the end of the Cold War that had global power projection capability. It never mattered.

The USN has over 10,000 VLS tubes, hundreds of 4th and 5th generation aircraft, highly advanced undersea warfare capabilities, all connected on the most advanced battle networks in the world.

The PLAN can't project any significant power outside the first island chain. The PLAN is nowhere near the USNs level.

There are only 8,786 VLS in the U.S., not 10,000. at the rate China is building ships, China will have more VLS than the U.S. by 2031.

China is a paper tiger. Don’t get your pineapple bust wide open fcking with real killas!

We had played the Americans in 1950/1951 and we knew the level of the Americans very well.

And after the Korean War, the US would only go to war with countries like Afghanistan, Iraq, Grenada, Haiti, and so on. Not a single country that ranks in the top 10 globally in terms of national power.

And China has been at war with the US(1950/1951), USSR(1969), France(1949/1954), UK(1949), India(1962). We won the wars with all of them.

 

[StraightEdge]

The USN has over 10,000 VLS tubes, hundreds of 4th and 5th generation aircraft, highly advanced undersea warfare capabilities, all connected on the most advanced battle networks in the world.

US barely can supply enough missiles to Ukraine, they can barely match the production capacity against Russia. China's industrial capacity to mass produce is unlike anything US had to contend with in past.

America Is Running Out of Ammo - WSJ
This chart shows why US can't keep up with Ukraine arms demand (qz.com)
Ukraine is burning through ammunition faster than the US and NATO can produce it. Inside the Pentagon's plan to close the gap | CNN Politics
U.S. could face possible weapons shortage as it continues to supply military aid to Ukraine, war game shows - CBS News
From Rockets to Ball Bearings, Pentagon Struggles to Feed War Machine - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

Those 10000 VLS tubes is worth less than a floppy disk without missiles.

 

[F-22Raptor]

There are only 8,786 VLS in the U.S., not 10,000. at the rate China is building ships, China will have more VLS than the U.S. by 2031.


We had played the Americans in 1950/1951 and we knew the level of the Americans very well.

And after the Korean War, the US would only go to war with countries like Afghanistan, Iraq, Grenada, Haiti, and so on. Not a single country that ranks in the top 10 globally in terms of national power.

And China has been at war with the US(1950/1951), USSR(1969), France(1949/1954), UK(1949), India(1962). We won the wars with all of them.

17 Ticons- 2,074

Burke Flight 1- 1,890

Burke Flight 2- 630

Burke Flight 2a- 4,224

Zumwalt class- 160

LA class submarine- 300

Virginia class- 252

Ohio SSGN-616

Total of 10,146

Plus an additional 2 Burke’s, 1 Zumwalt, and 4 Virginias have all been launched awaiting commissioning. That’s an additional 320 VLS

 

[MH.Yang]

17 Ticons- 2,074

Burke Flight 1- 1,890

Burke Flight 2- 630

Burke Flight 2a- 4,224

Zumwalt class- 160

LA class submarine- 300

Virginia class- 252

Ohio SSGN-616

Total of 10,146

Plus an additional 2 Burke’s, 1 Zumwalt, and 4 Virginias have all been launched awaiting commissioning. That’s an additional 320 VLS

17 Ticons- 2,074

Burke Flight 1- 1,890

Burke Flight 2- 630

Burke Flight 2a- 4,032

Zumwalt class- 160

total of 8786






1, The USN only has 42 Burke 2A, not 44.

2, None would count nuclear submarines, that's a different game.


BTW: The US Pacific fleet has only 1500+ VLS while the Chinese navy has 5000+ VLS. the US can't deploy all its navy to the Pacific Ocean.




Comparing VLS is not fair to the US. The US has a much greater advantage in aircraft carriers and nuclear submarines. Let's be fair, the Chinese Navy's main ship is 2.4 million tons and the US Navy's main ship is 3.7 million tons. This is the most intuitive power gap.
But China's industrial scale is far stronger than that of the US, and those who still think that the US can always maintain naval superiority are only fooling themselves.
The worst problem is that China's warships produce everything from soldiers' underwear to radar and engines, and it does it all in-house. With China's industrial overproductivity, a massive order for warships would only stimulate China's economy. The same cannot be said for the US warship order, which will only put a heavier burden on the US economy.