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China-Japan Island Dispute Could Become Flashpoint

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TAIPEI — While North Korea has garnered attention as Asia’s top hotspot, experts worry that the real problem is between Beijing and Tokyo over the Japanese-controlled Senkaku Islands, which China calls the Diaoyu Islands.

Over the past month, rhetoric has soared between new nationalistic leaders in China and Japan as each deploys hardware to the region.

China’s increased ship and air patrols to the islands have prompted an unprecedented response from Japan: Keep out or we will use force to keep you out. Japanese Defense Minister Itsunori Onodera said, “Japan is determined to protect its land, water and air.”

And to help its key ally, America’s top military leaders have told Beijing that if the shooting starts, Washington is treaty- and duty-bound to back Tokyo.

That, in turn, has prompted China to declare the islands a “core interest” in a bid to force Tokyo and Washington to back down, a move that’s unlikely to work.

“I think the potential calculated escalation is high,” said Wallace “Chip” Gregson, former assistant defense secretary for Asian and Pacific security affairs under President Barack Obama. “China seems to feel it is in their interests to keep tensions high, and Japan’s tough response meets with political approval across the country. The potential for miscalculation is always there with so many ships and airplanes confronting each other.

“I think China takes US obligations seriously, and they are working to drive a wedge between the US and Japan. I don’t think they expected a strong response from Japan, but now that national prestige is involved in each country, they are stuck,” Gregson said.

US Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel’s reaffirmation of US support for Japan came last week after Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying told a Japanese reporter April 26 that the “Diaoyu Islands are about sovereignty and territorial integrity. Of course, it’s China’s core interest.”

The “core interest” declaration rattled Tokyo and Washington. The phrase is usually reserved for sensitive Chinese territorial concerns. In March 2010, Chinese officials began declaring the South China Sea as a “core interest” on par with its claims over Taiwan, Tibet and Xinjiang.

Hua’s statement was deleted from the official transcript issued by China’s Foreign Ministry.

“It is on the tape,” said Bonnie Glaser, senior adviser for Asia at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. “However, when the transcript was issued, that sentence was deleted. The transcript remains the official account. Obviously, someone believed it should not have been said.”

“China is cautious in using the term ‘core interest,’ ” said Su Xiaohui, strategic studies research fellow, China Institute of Inter*national Peace, Beijing. “The reason is that when we define something as a ‘core interest,’ it means that it is not negotiable and China will defend it with all our might.”

A Chinese Foreign Ministry source echoed Su’s comments by saying Hua’s comments were a “signal to the world that the Chinese government attaches more importance to this sovereignty issue and is willing to defend its sovereignty. Whatever it takes.”

Su said China’s definition is not important.

“The reality is that it is difficult for China to step back. It is not only a problem between China and Japan. It is related to the US position, the South China Sea issue, etc. If we failed in dealing with the problem appropriately, the spillover effect would be disastrous.”

China has been ramping up tensions near the islands for the past 16 months. The most recent incident occurred April 23 when eight Chinese marine surveillance ships entered the 12-nautical-mile ter*ritorial zone off the islands.

Hua’s statement was both “surprising” and “expected,” said Jingdong Yuan, a China security specialist at the Centre for International Security Studies, University of Sydney. There is a possibility China has a new policy regarding territorial disputes.

“China would keep the status quo if one challenges it; otherwise, it will now seek to set a new benchmark or redefine the status quo, as it has been doing with regard to Senkaku,” Jingdong said.

There were relatively few intrusions into the vicinity of the island group before September 2012; now it has become a matter of fact where China is “basically demonstrating its de facto, at the minimum, co-administration while ever more loudly claiming its sovereign rights to these islands,” Jingdong said.

Zhuang Jianzhong, vice director of the Center for National Strategy Studies, Shanghai Jiao Tong University, had a different take on the Hua comment. Zhuang said the Diaoyu Islands dispute is different from Taiwan, Tibet and Xinjiang.

“Though it touches upon sovereignty and territorial disputes, the importance of this issue in the sense of a core interest is less than the previous ones,” he said. China is willing to discuss the island dispute with Japan, whereas there is no room for negotiation on the “other three.”

China-Japan Island Dispute Could Become Flashpoint | Defense News | defensenews.com
 
Time to shake hands with Japan and bang this bellicose Chinese from both sides.
India has become too predictable with it's peacefull overtures, time to go mad and show the world how crazy we could be if provoked beyond comfort zone.
In 62 we had ill-trained army of 2 lakh soliders and political idiots like Kaul,Menon, Nehru and on top of that there was Cuban crisis at that time and there was no deployments of Air force and Navy.This time let's make it large, go India go.
 
Time to shake hands with Japan and bang this bellicose Chinese from both sides.
India has become too predictable with it's peacefull overtures, time to go mad and show the world how crazy we could be if provoked beyond comfort zone.
In 62 we had ill-trained army of 2 lakh soliders and political idiots like Kaul,Menon, Nehru and on top of that there was Cuban crisis at that time and there was no deployments of Air force and Navy.This time let's make it large, go India go.

Ideally lets wait for the Japanese and the Americans to finish first, they have bigger scores to settle :lol:
 
Ideally lets wait for the Japanese and the Americans to finish first, they have bigger scores to settle :lol:

The incursion in Ladhak is also testing the waters and also how deep the cooperation between India and Japan.
 
The incursion in Ladhak is also testing the waters and also how deep the cooperation between India and Japan.

One wonders if the timing of the chinese incursion into Indian territory is a strategic blunder or a well timed move - any answers?
 
One wonders if the timing of the chinese incursion into Indian territory is a strategic blunder or a well timed move - any answers?

It is also related to Senkaku Islands row, Chinese want to occupy them illegally from Japan.

The recent warning from Japanese PM of any Landings on the Islands is a sign of what things to come in the coming days.

Definitely Those Islands row has a potential for greater friction, Chinese want to test how safe their border with India are at the same time before taking on Japanese.

In my view we need co operation with Japan related to common enemy China.

But this move of incursion is a stupid one since they have to back off else the row will escalate.
 
One wonders if the timing of the chinese incursion into Indian territory is a strategic blunder or a well timed move - any answers?

I will take it as timed move since they know it very well Japan won't attack them as per her Constitution .They are only self defence force .
Agni-5 is still not operational, MRCA deal is not threw, Arihant is not patrolling in deep waters,Our own GPS system is not operational .All this gives them only 3-4year window to tame India, after that India would be out of their reach.
 
China is allied with Russia. China puts pressure on Japan at the same time Russia puts pressure on Japan regarding Kurils. It just shows mutual support. I don't know wtf you Indians are thinking maybe you are children thinking international politics is a computer game.
 
China is allied with Russia. China puts pressure on Japan at the same time Russia puts pressure on Japan regarding Kurils. It just shows mutual support. I don't know wtf you Indians are thinking maybe you are children thinking international politics is a computer game.

I think you are talking about ernstwhile USSR, off late Russia is worried about China and it is also allowing USA investments in Russia's far east close to china.
 
China is allied with Russia. China puts pressure on Japan at the same time Russia puts pressure on Japan regarding Kurils. It just shows mutual support. I don't know wtf you Indians are thinking maybe you are children thinking international politics is a computer game.

WTf did you come up with exactly? has Russia come in support of china with it's Japan row - don't think so, they have a longstanding issue with Japan - but it's not in focus right now.
 
China is allied with Russia. China puts pressure on Japan at the same time Russia puts pressure on Japan regarding Kurils. It just shows mutual support. I don't know wtf you Indians are thinking maybe you are children thinking international politics is a computer game.

Russia has her own issues with you and she won't like to see ever -asserting China as her neighbour, when time will come they will ditch you.::omghaha:
 
WTf did you come up with exactly? has Russia come in support of china with it's Japan row - don't think so, they have a longstanding issue with Japan - but it's not in focus right now.

In my opinion, and politics is all opinions, Russia and China always push against Japan at very similar times and they always advocate for each other at similar times. Obviously they are not going to go out blatantly and say we are allies fear us because thats not the way Chinese do things anyway and it stirs negative attention from NATO. China backs Russia in issues with Syria, Nato, Japan, Muslim terrorists, Serbia etc and Russia backs China with Tibet, Xinjiang, Japan, NK and US. It works back and forwards. Old saying goes...Actions speak louder then words.
 
In my opinion, and politics is all opinions, Russia and China always push against Japan at very similar times and they always advocate for each other at similar times. Obviously they are not going to go out blatantly and say we are allies fear us because thats not the way Chinese do things anyway and it stirs negative attention from NATO. China backs Russia in issues with Syria, Nato, Japan, Muslim terrorists, Serbia etc and Russia backs China with Tibet, Xinjiang, Japan, NK and US. It works back and forwards. Old saying goes...Actions speak louder then words.

Russia and China are very close. India provides no value for Russia apart from weapons sales.
 
In my opinion, and politics is all opinions, Russia and China always push against Japan at very similar times and they always advocate for each other at similar times. Obviously they are not going to go out blatantly and say we are allies fear us because thats not the way Chinese do things anyway and it stirs negative attention from NATO. China backs Russia in issues with Syria, Nato, Japan, Muslim terrorists, Serbia etc and Russia backs China with Tibet, Xinjiang, Japan, NK and US. It works back and forwards. Old saying goes...Actions speak louder then words.

When has Russia backed you on Japan, SCS, India, Tibet? as for you supporting Russian stand - that's because you follow Russian policies in Syria, Iran and the rest.

Now contrast this with the US coming out in open support of Japan as the article mentions and compare it to any Russian statement if any on China and Japan row.

Of course they are not going to go out blatantly and say that they are your allies because they are not, and are not going to fight your wars, just leave out Russia from this Chn- Jpn equation as you raised in your post because they aren't concerned.
 
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