"China is the next great country in the world" - Jim Rogers

[yh1]

Wonderful, isn't it? We somehow manage to convert every other thread into India-Pakistan pi**ing thread. We didn't even spare this Chinese thread.

Because one of you Indians hatred to China is China-Pakistan relation.

 

[sipraomer]

Dear,
If you think Muslimanistan , make a good country then why your country lagging behind in everything.and don't you think your country begging aid for your domestic conflict.dont forget terrorism has a purticuler religious mask, which you wish to conquor the India.
growup man growup...you are not a child one who make bedwet at night. I wish you crossed all that age.
If you poke someones back ,they can reply on your eye.

My son! Don't worry and think too much. Keep your regional differences like that and soon India will collapse with the help of her own inner conflicts. This is not our domestic conflict and neither we are begging. This is America's war and she is helping us to some extent. Actually you stop being a bed wet little boy. A poor hungry country can't become a super power. And that democracy which you are proud of. India is the biggest democracy. No doubt indeed! But is India the best democracy? That is to be questioned. So jackass just keep in with in your limits and concentrate on your own crippled democratic system which can't provide rights to the people. By the way , mark my words. Fool proof dictatorial system is far better than crippled democracy. You have no idea what I am talking about. Wait for 25 years and you will know.

 

[Peace_maker]

I wish for you the same. And Pakistan Army indeed is the best. At least you admit it. Now recruit in the Indian Army because the next target is that.

Avoid this disgusting person.His days in the forum are limited.Moderators plzz ban him.

 

[IsReal]

My son! Don't worry and think too much. Keep your regional differences like that and soon India will collapse with the help of her own inner conflicts. This is not our domestic conflict and neither we are begging. This is America's war and she is helping us to some extent. Actually you stop being a bed wet little boy. A poor hungry country can't become a super power. And that democracy which you are proud of. India is the biggest democracy. No doubt indeed! But is India the best democracy? That is to be questioned. So jackass just keep in with in your limits and concentrate on your own crippled democratic system which can't provide rights to the people. By the way , mark my words. Fool proof dictatorial system is far better than crippled democracy. You have no idea what I am talking about. Wait for 25 years and you will know.

Sorry dear I don’t think so, Super power nation is not a sports tittle.and India is not contending for that tittle.those who are named India as ,next super power are not Indian people but it was western media. and If One day China called as "Super power "their is no even a small bit of pain in Indian people. china has big military, political status and human force then why not. we love to see china as super power. But whatever be in the super nation seat , India is India. we never cost our nations interest to any Super power pleasure(this is America's war and she is helping us to some extent).we have our self respect and moral, we should maintain that at any cost. And we don’t have hold the “winning horse tail” habit ,in history or in future.
and if you think militery rule is better then democracy, I respect that personal opinion
Yes it is true, India has many religion differences in it ,But I don’t think It is going to cause, collapse of the country, I thought your first prime minister also have the same words in 1960, but still India is their.
and at last you confirmed Swat war is not war against Taliban is not your war but that is American war. But I thought they are all(swath valley people) born ,live and act in the Pakistan for long time .that mean they are your nation citizens.
Then why killing own people to serve a third nations pleasure..?

 

[Communist]

 

[sipraomer]

Avoid this disgusting person.His days in the forum are limited.Moderators plzz ban him.

A disgusting Indian will not rule Pakistani forums. If my truth is disgusting for you then fu'ck off.

 

[sipraomer]

Sorry dear I don’t think so, Super power nation is not a sports tittle.and India is not contending for that tittle.those who are named India as ,next super power are not Indian people but it was western media. and If One day China called as "Super power "their is no even a small bit of pain in Indian people. china has big military, political status and human force then why not. we love to see china as super power. But whatever be in the super nation seat , India is India. we never cost our nations interest to any Super power pleasure(this is America's war and she is helping us to some extent).we have our self respect and moral, we should maintain that at any cost. And we don’t have hold the “winning horse tail” habit ,in history or in future.
and if you think militery rule is better then democracy, I respect that personal opinion
Yes it is true, India has many religion differences in it ,But I don’t think It is going to cause, collapse of the country, I thought your first prime minister also have the same words in 1960, but still India is their.
and at last you confirmed Swat war is not war against Taliban is not your war but that is American war. But I thought they are all(swath valley people) born ,live and act in the Pakistan for long time .that mean they are your nation citizens.
Then why killing own people to serve a third nations pleasure..?

Amitab Bachan is not indian. THose who come in indian channels are not indians who say Bharat baney ga super power. You people are hungry as well as liars. Where is your self respect when you fulfill the interest of America against China . Aren't you being used as pawns. My foot self respect. India will be collapsed and all will witness it. Because the tensions are rather increasing. Difference between rich and poor is increasing. Hunger struck country can't remain for long. And thirdly it is your fu'cking RAW agency and CIA which is involved in it. Our citizens are against the foreign invaders and we will win by the grace of God.

 

[sipraomer]

PunjabNewsline.com - Growing Regional Conflicts in India and the way forward

It is distressing to have your eyeballs getting rolled over the headline everyday with a gory mention of violence happened in some or the other part of the country. The increase in the cases of regional violence in India in recent decade is alarmingly appalling.
There are a huge number of incidents in free India when regional issues were raked up in one or the other state by local leaders, sometimes only for their own petty political gains and sometimes for genuine concerns.

But, unfortunately the entire Indian establishment including media, bureaucracy, politicians finds it to be just a law and order problem. Actually, it is not. It has some more dimensions to it. Every time any such untoward incident happens, all the politicians take pride in announcing emphatically in front of flashing cameras that we cannot tolerate anti-nationals and their nefarious designs and we are Indians first then anyone else. Why do they need to remind this to people time and again? Being Indian does not require one to forget his regional recognition.

 

[glomex]

PunjabNewsline.com - Growing Regional Conflicts in India and the way forward

It is distressing to have your eyeballs getting rolled over the headline everyday with a gory mention of violence happened in some or the other part of the country. The increase in the cases of regional violence in India in recent decade is alarmingly appalling.
There are a huge number of incidents in free India when regional issues were raked up in one or the other state by local leaders, sometimes only for their own petty political gains and sometimes for genuine concerns.

But, unfortunately the entire Indian establishment including media, bureaucracy, politicians finds it to be just a law and order problem. Actually, it is not. It has some more dimensions to it. Every time any such untoward incident happens, all the politicians take pride in announcing emphatically in front of flashing cameras that we cannot tolerate anti-nationals and their nefarious designs and we are Indians first then anyone else. Why do they need to remind this to people time and again? Being Indian does not require one to forget his regional recognition.

Something Similar is being said about Pakistan by a Pakistani.....

Read On....


Kashmir Watch :: In-depth coverage on Kashmir conflict


Make no mistake in realizing the fact that only America, India and Israel are not responsible for our destruction. We are also ourselves responsible for our miseries and steady disintegration. Look at our civil and military leadership. The richest beggar of the world is shamelessly begging around the globe to disgrace the whole nation, whereas the other is killing our own people under the cover of American war on terror. What the hell, we can expect from such politicians, who are 80% traitors or their next generation. They have a history of betraying the fellow Muslims and conspiring with the English rulers for estates in reward. These dirty politicians are the root cause of our miseries. In a country where the leadership is sincere and committed to the nation, the military can't dare to interfere with the affairs of state. But in the absence of sincere leadership, the military intervenes over and again on the pretext of reforms. The people always trust them, as they would do something better for the country and it�€™s people. Whereas our military leadership is equally corrupt, so it always fails to deliver any better, as they promise at time of coup. Since both the major arms of the state are corrupt and American puppets, they engage in a give and take, as sacrificing the national dignity, prosperity and integrity. In such a criminal situation with no accountability, the bureaucracy, which has to be the servant of the public, treats the people nothing more than slaves. Who are these people? Are they Americans, Israelis or the Indians? No, they are the bloody black sheep of our society, who deserve to be treated as the enemies of state. Where the nations are strong, no foreign power can dare to destroy them. As you can see Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, Vietnam, Korea and many others. Where the public trusts the leadership and rallies around them in time of war and peace.

The foreign powers always have their agents in every strategic country. Like CIA, RAW and Moused in Pakistan. Where they operate covertly to seek their motives. The agents don't have horns on their head and most of the time, they are from the local population for convenience. But in Pakistan, the scope of agents is very bright and secure as protected by the state machinery. It's a shame to see the direct dictation by Obama, Gen Petraeus and Halbrooke. Because they know, whom they are dictating, are their own people. Do you ever see the President, PM or the Chief criticising any of such dictations? Neve ever. So who is working against Pakistan? The Americans don't need to waste their men and ammunition, if they are getting a cheap and loyal alternate to promote their agenda and eliminating all such elements who are resisting their agenda. While the whole nation is trapped in financial hardship and scared of the brutalities of police and agencies to silence their agitation.

The anti-Pakistan agencies simply fanned the spark into a flame by dividing the whole society into fundamentalists and seculars, as they did in Egypt, Morocco, etc. to control by proxy of puppets. Now in Pakistan, they have a very broad network of local agents in government, military and the bureaucracy. In cooperation with our black sheep, they have sponsored plenty of scholars, intellectuals, politicians, civil & military officials and above all the foreign funded NGOs. All such Pakistani, undercover agents, are published in newspapers and aired on different televisions to poison the public mind and reform the opinion in favour of Indo-American agenda. In Pakistan, there are more than 60 local Tv channels. Most of them don't have enough business to meet their expenses. So where are they getting the funds from? Make no mistake, as they have partnerships with companies in India, America and Europe, who control their policies and programs against heavy funding. So who is the real criminal then? The Americans, Indians or our own black sheep who are betraying the nation, as every moment passes? Our media is only interested in breaking the news, without verification. Whether right or wrong, in favour or against Pakistan, is not their headache. But surely, they are slowly brain washing the nation to surrender to Indo-American pressure, in terms of their political and economic supremacy in the region.

There is no doubt that there are a lot many foreign agents working on the soil of Pakistan but most of them are working with the consent of our government and establishment. So if the interest of both the parties is the same then who would catch them? Even in the Presidency there is a CIA cell for the protection of the President. As they find him more precious to US instead of Pakistan. A large strength of American agents is working across Pakistan in different civil and military establishments and you can see the results in terms of policy and econo-political disasters in Pakistan. So why to blame America only? If our puppy and puppet civil and military leadership has acknowledged them as their Big Brother for their own survival and monetary benefit, then it's our fault. You can�€™t treat a disease unless you believe it�€™s a disease.

The most critical thing in terms of "intelligence" is that it creates a situation where the friends are turned into foes seamlessly with a very logical explanation. It simply exploit the socio-political and econo-religious frictions to trigger a civil war. Which generates a vicious cycle of retaliations causing a chain of attacks and counter attacks on both sides. Same they are doing in Pakistan by branding yesterday�€™s Mujahedin as today�€™s terrorists then getting them crushed through the sponsored security forces. This way they are seeking a dual benefit, where Muslims are killed on both ends and our civil and military strength is being neutralized. Though through propaganda, they have confused and divided the nation, but one thing is history true, that we turn our friends into foes and when they pick the gun in retaliation, we brand them as terrorist. Same it happened in East Pakistan, Sind and Baluchistan. Think about it....why is that? Because our pro-American leadership has always been serving the purpose of English command to break the nuclear Islamic Republic of Pakistan into econo-politically handicapped minor secular states, with India as the big brother. Which would have no danger to the supremacy of their masters in the world and their pursuit of natural resources in the region.

It's our duty to forge a bond of Islamic unity, for which Pakistan was created instead of dividing into ethnicities and ending up in Indian slavery, as to be worse than pre partition in 1947. This country belongs to sincere Pakistanis and they have to rise against these puppets and puppies and snatch the control from the criminal leadership. In case of any disaster, nobody else but we solely stand responsible for it. Since we are, mainly, responsible for our disgrace and miseries, so we have to fix it. The enemies are always there to cause damage but we have to distinguish between the friends and foes. Think and do something practically, whatever you can in any possible capacity you have to rescue our sinking ship. As obeying the unconstitutional and unlawful order is also a crime. By sacrificing your personal interest, political affiliation and disobeying any unlawful order, you can make a whole lot difference.

May Allah give us the strength to sacrifice our personal benefit over the national interest to sort out our traitors. Amin!

 

[sipraomer]

Something Similar is being said about Pakistan by a Pakistani.....

Read On....


Kashmir Watch :: In-depth coverage on Kashmir conflict


Make no mistake in realizing the fact that only America, India and Israel are not responsible for our destruction. We are also ourselves responsible for our miseries and steady disintegration. Look at our civil and military leadership. The richest beggar of the world is shamelessly begging around the globe to disgrace the whole nation, whereas the other is killing our own people under the cover of American war on terror. What the hell, we can expect from such politicians, who are 80% traitors or their next generation. They have a history of betraying the fellow Muslims and conspiring with the English rulers for estates in reward. These dirty politicians are the root cause of our miseries. In a country where the leadership is sincere and committed to the nation, the military can't dare to interfere with the affairs of state. But in the absence of sincere leadership, the military intervenes over and again on the pretext of reforms. The people always trust them, as they would do something better for the country and it�€™s people. Whereas our military leadership is equally corrupt, so it always fails to deliver any better, as they promise at time of coup. Since both the major arms of the state are corrupt and American puppets, they engage in a give and take, as sacrificing the national dignity, prosperity and integrity. In such a criminal situation with no accountability, the bureaucracy, which has to be the servant of the public, treats the people nothing more than slaves. Who are these people? Are they Americans, Israelis or the Indians? No, they are the bloody black sheep of our society, who deserve to be treated as the enemies of state. Where the nations are strong, no foreign power can dare to destroy them. As you can see Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, Vietnam, Korea and many others. Where the public trusts the leadership and rallies around them in time of war and peace.

The foreign powers always have their agents in every strategic country. Like CIA, RAW and Moused in Pakistan. Where they operate covertly to seek their motives. The agents don't have horns on their head and most of the time, they are from the local population for convenience. But in Pakistan, the scope of agents is very bright and secure as protected by the state machinery. It's a shame to see the direct dictation by Obama, Gen Petraeus and Halbrooke. Because they know, whom they are dictating, are their own people. Do you ever see the President, PM or the Chief criticising any of such dictations? Neve ever. So who is working against Pakistan? The Americans don't need to waste their men and ammunition, if they are getting a cheap and loyal alternate to promote their agenda and eliminating all such elements who are resisting their agenda. While the whole nation is trapped in financial hardship and scared of the brutalities of police and agencies to silence their agitation.

The anti-Pakistan agencies simply fanned the spark into a flame by dividing the whole society into fundamentalists and seculars, as they did in Egypt, Morocco, etc. to control by proxy of puppets. Now in Pakistan, they have a very broad network of local agents in government, military and the bureaucracy. In cooperation with our black sheep, they have sponsored plenty of scholars, intellectuals, politicians, civil & military officials and above all the foreign funded NGOs. All such Pakistani, undercover agents, are published in newspapers and aired on different televisions to poison the public mind and reform the opinion in favour of Indo-American agenda. In Pakistan, there are more than 60 local Tv channels. Most of them don't have enough business to meet their expenses. So where are they getting the funds from? Make no mistake, as they have partnerships with companies in India, America and Europe, who control their policies and programs against heavy funding. So who is the real criminal then? The Americans, Indians or our own black sheep who are betraying the nation, as every moment passes? Our media is only interested in breaking the news, without verification. Whether right or wrong, in favour or against Pakistan, is not their headache. But surely, they are slowly brain washing the nation to surrender to Indo-American pressure, in terms of their political and economic supremacy in the region.

There is no doubt that there are a lot many foreign agents working on the soil of Pakistan but most of them are working with the consent of our government and establishment. So if the interest of both the parties is the same then who would catch them? Even in the Presidency there is a CIA cell for the protection of the President. As they find him more precious to US instead of Pakistan. A large strength of American agents is working across Pakistan in different civil and military establishments and you can see the results in terms of policy and econo-political disasters in Pakistan. So why to blame America only? If our puppy and puppet civil and military leadership has acknowledged them as their Big Brother for their own survival and monetary benefit, then it's our fault. You can�€™t treat a disease unless you believe it�€™s a disease.

The most critical thing in terms of "intelligence" is that it creates a situation where the friends are turned into foes seamlessly with a very logical explanation. It simply exploit the socio-political and econo-religious frictions to trigger a civil war. Which generates a vicious cycle of retaliations causing a chain of attacks and counter attacks on both sides. Same they are doing in Pakistan by branding yesterday�€™s Mujahedin as today�€™s terrorists then getting them crushed through the sponsored security forces. This way they are seeking a dual benefit, where Muslims are killed on both ends and our civil and military strength is being neutralized. Though through propaganda, they have confused and divided the nation, but one thing is history true, that we turn our friends into foes and when they pick the gun in retaliation, we brand them as terrorist. Same it happened in East Pakistan, Sind and Baluchistan. Think about it....why is that? Because our pro-American leadership has always been serving the purpose of English command to break the nuclear Islamic Republic of Pakistan into econo-politically handicapped minor secular states, with India as the big brother. Which would have no danger to the supremacy of their masters in the world and their pursuit of natural resources in the region.

It's our duty to forge a bond of Islamic unity, for which Pakistan was created instead of dividing into ethnicities and ending up in Indian slavery, as to be worse than pre partition in 1947. This country belongs to sincere Pakistanis and they have to rise against these puppets and puppies and snatch the control from the criminal leadership. In case of any disaster, nobody else but we solely stand responsible for it. Since we are, mainly, responsible for our disgrace and miseries, so we have to fix it. The enemies are always there to cause damage but we have to distinguish between the friends and foes. Think and do something practically, whatever you can in any possible capacity you have to rescue our sinking ship. As obeying the unconstitutional and unlawful order is also a crime. By sacrificing your personal interest, political affiliation and disobeying any unlawful order, you can make a whole lot difference.

May Allah give us the strength to sacrifice our personal benefit over the national interest to sort out our traitors. Amin!

That is why I am against democracy. And that is why my mindset is on a revolution. An Islamic revolution. A totalitarian democratic non party based political system, free from foreign influence, and free from Party politics which can only fulfill its own motives and interests. I believe that democracy is just a start for revolution. Revolution can't be brought in Pakistan, India. It shall be imposed through democracy. Because people of this region don't have the guts to suffer the pains needed in order to bring a true revolution. A just political system can only be imposed. I am saddened with the current state of affairs. I am saddened that we have wasted so much time and resources. I am saddened for the waste of 5 decades. We fought for independence but we failed to be independent. We have failed to acquire mental independence from the west. But I am hopeful. People say Pakistan's problems will cure after 150 years. I believe that through the concept which I am giving we can cure in 20 years. There is only one thing good in democracy. People can come to power. Else it is crap.

 

[glomex]

That is why I am against democracy. And that is why my mindset is on a revolution. An Islamic revolution. A totalitarian democratic non party based political system, free from foreign influence, and free from Party politics which can only fulfill its own motives and interests. I believe that democracy is just a start for revolution. Revolution can't be brought in Pakistan, India. It shall be imposed through democracy. Because people of this region don't have the guts to suffer the pains needed in order to bring a true revolution. A just political system can only be imposed. I am saddened with the current state of affairs. I am saddened that we have wasted so much time and resources. I am saddened for the waste of 5 decades. We fought for independence but we failed to be independent. We have failed to acquire mental independence from the west. But I am hopeful. People say Pakistan's problems will cure after 150 years. I believe that through the concept which I am giving we can cure in 20 years. There is only one thing good in democracy. People can come to power. Else it is crap.

Please go ahead an enjoy living your thoughts.......if you are a part of the world you will always have some amount of foreign influence ...positive or negative....be it a Democracy...a theocracy or an Absolute anarchy........

 

[sipraomer]

Please go ahead an enjoy living your thoughts.......if you are a part of the world you will always have some amount of foreign influence ...positive or negative....be it a Democracy...a theocracy or an Absolute anarchy........

The ratio of influence has to be questioned and observed. The level of corruption has to be observed. The influence I am talking about, is changing a state policy because of the pressure of foreign countries. This however is un acceptable. One may change a decision for a bargain. Foreseeing the future of world politics and one's own country's interests. One may back off, for a price which could be beneficial for the country. But fulfilling one's own pockets and selling the country's interest is wrong. In democracy anyone who has money can come to power. This is a slippery road to walk upon. There have to be certain moral and intellectual requirements for a candidate in order to participate.

 

[glomex]

The ratio of influence has to be questioned and observed. The level of corruption has to be observed. The influence I am talking about, is changing a state policy because of the pressure of foreign countries. This however is un acceptable. One may change a decision for a bargain. Foreseeing the future of world politics and one's own country's interests. One may back off, for a price which could be beneficial for the country. But fulfilling one's own pockets and selling the country's interest is wrong. In democracy anyone who has money can come to power. This is a slippery road to walk upon. There have to be certain moral and intellectual requirements for a candidate in order to participate.

Despite of what you say.....most of the Democratic countries are successful economies at the same time.........