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China Is Making Tons of PPE Respirators Good Enough For Asia and Europe. But U.S. Hospitals Can't Buy Them.

Fear of lawsuits and red tape are keeping them out of the hands of American frontline medical workers.

By Daniel Newhauser
Mar 27 2020, 11:44pm

WASHINGTON — Barbara Filippone has been exporting hemp fabric from China for decades, but since the novel coronavirus hit the United States, she’s been putting her Asian connections to work on another popular product: Masks.

Through her business partner in China, she established relationships with factories in Shandong Province and made plans to ship particle-filtering respirators directly to American hospitals. Yet despite dire pleas by nurses for more of these masks, Filippone has been having trouble getting them into health care workers’ hands.

“There's a lot of bureaucracy, paperwork, that's wasting time,” said Filippone, speaking on the phone from her office in Colorado. “All it takes is a factory in China to a healthcare facility, not all this red tape.”

Hundreds of factories in China are churning out millions of masks being used to suppress the virus across Asia and Europe, but importers can’t get them to the front lines of the fight against COVID-19 in the United States because they haven’t been certified by the Food and Drug Administration. Confusing government regulations preferring American products, old-school billing practices, and hospital administrators scared of being sued are keeping masks out of the hands of nurses and first responders during the coronavirus pandemic.

Two things immediately need to be done, according to these nurses and suppliers: First, President Donald Trump needs to either massively ramp up U.S. respirator production or formally and uniformly ease restrictions on foreign respirators, opening up the Chinese market. Second, hospitals need to start paying up front, instead of using their normal billing practices of paying a month or two down the line.

Even beyond the strained diplomatic relations and global shipping disruptions, governments and medical institutions have been too slow to adapt to the urgency of this quickly developing crisis. Nurses have shared horror stories of using cotton rags, bras, porous surgical masks or anything on hand to cover their mouths to keep from contracting COVID-19.

Meanwhile, nurses who are lucky enough to have access to U.S. government-approved N95 respirators have been instructed to re-use them, often so many times that they’re barely effective anymore. The government said earlier this month it has only 1% of the 3.5 billion N95s it would need to fight this virus. That isn’t enough.

3M, the major manufacturer of these masks, has pledged to produce more than 1 billion N95s by the end of the year. Yet in the meantime, the government and hospitals have been slow to allow other respirators onto the market, like the Chinese KN95, which may not meet FDA regulations but offers comparable levels of protection, and is certainly more effective than a piece of cotton or gauze, let alone a bra cup.

These other respirators are available, and nurses need them now, according to people on the front lines. But many hospitals are too spooked to buy respirators unless they’re manufactured by 3M, Honeywell, or a smattering of other companies who have paid for the FDA to certify their Chinese factories.

“The rest of the world finds it perfectly acceptable to use these masks, but not the United States because the FDA fairies haven't gone and blessed it,” said Matt Wolf, a Los Angeles-based tile importer, who has been trying to use his China connections to funnel masks to hospitals. “Those were the same masks that were able to get China healthy during COVID-19. Same exact thing, and yet the hospital administrators are saying, ‘Oooh, I don't think we can take those yet.’”

How the N95 became the standard
Prior to the 2000s, it was common for frontline health care workers to wear only surgical masks. Largely spurred by the fear of tuberculosis, regulations started to change, said Linda Rosenstock, who oversaw regulations mandating N95 respirators in health care settings as the director of the CDC’s National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health under President Bill Clinton.

“We just said, ‘No, healthcare workers are our frontline emergency responders and they're too vulnerable with that. It's just not meant for that job,’” she said. “The battle then was our fellow scientists thought we were being overly protective of workers and that they were fine.”

In a cruel twist of irony, N95s are in short supply now, and those very regulations meant to protect health care workers are leading to an environment where those floppy surgical masks are the only thing between nurses and the coronavirus. Rosenstock agreed that, absent sweeping federal action to ramp up N95 production, these other respirators are a better choice.

“Whatever regulatory burden might be preventing those from being put into the use here, if available, should be absolutely dealt with,” she said. “That’s a given.”

Since the pandemic started to spread, the FDA issued guidelines, as recently as this week, expanding the kinds of respirators hospitals can employ. Australian, Brazilian, European and Japanese respirators were approved, and Trump signed a law last week exempting American manufacturers from liability for sending N95s to health workers.

At the same time, the FDA instituted fees or mandates on letters from mask-making factories. And the CDC advised that Chinese KN95s be used only as a last resort. That has led to confusion and delay, as regulatory hurdles slow the process down and hospitals are interpreting the guidelines in all kinds of different ways.

“The FDA cannot get out of its own way. Why doesn't the FDA just say, ‘Okay, let's use what the Brits are using, what the Canadians are using, what every normal country is using?’” said MIT Professor Yossi Sheffi, who advises hospitals on supply chain management. “They think that only N95 works? I mean, this is insane at this time, it's insane. It's like you're fighting a war, and somebody comes from the outside and says, ‘I can give you some guns and tanks and airplanes.’ And you say, ‘No, let me develop my own.’”

Sheffi said as a result, hospitals are terrified they’d be sued for buying these suboptimal masks to outfit their staff — and they might be right. That’s why the government needs to step in and give them certainly that they wouldn’t be liable.

“We live in the most litigious society on Earth. I mean, they'll go bankrupt for sure,” Sheffi said. “If the nurse is using a handkerchief to cover her mouth, and something happened, it's the nurse's fault. If the hospital orders 100,000 masks and one person dies or something bad happens then it's the hospital that is on the hook.”

Second-tier respirators
Hospitals are definitely stretched thin, but they do share some of the blame. Filippone and Wolf, the two respirator suppliers, both said hospitals could make the choice to use the second-tier respirators, liability be damned. Some hospitals, both suppliers said, have come around to that idea just this week.

At the same time, though, hospitals are tied in knots by their own bureaucracy. They’re used to receiving shipments, invoicing and paying at the end of the month. That’s not acceptable to factories and small-time suppliers, who need money up front to keep the materials coming and the assembly line running.

That leads to a kind of stand off: Cash-strapped hospitals are scared to shell out money in case they’d get ripped off by Chinese factories they don’t know, and those factories are reluctant to accept an IOU because they need money to keep producing goods.

Bad actors are price gouging or ripping people off for 3M brand model 8210 N95s, charging as much as $30 for a respirator that used to cost $3 or $4. Meanwhile, people like Filippone and Wolf say they are trying to bring in the Chinese certified KN95s or other classes of masks into the country for close to $3 per mask and little or no profit.

“What needs to happen differently is we have to adjust to the changing supply chain,” Wolf said. “Factories demand full prepayment for the masks before they even ship them, and so if hospitals don't get on board with that, they're not going to get the masks. No one's going to take the risk.”

All this results in horrifying conditions for nurses. Tami Strzelecki is a Michigan-based nurse who’s been quarantined, presumed positive after being exposed to coronavirus on the job. She can’t know for sure, though, because tests aren’t readily available.

“A lot of hospital systems right now are protecting themselves and not their health care professionals,” she said. “They're saying, ‘Hey, we're following the CDC guidelines,’ even though the CDC guidelines are pretty much garbage right now.”

Hospitals should worry less about the potential lawsuits that could come from acting, she said, and more about the ones that will definitely come if they don’t act now.

“They don't want to give out faulty masks,” she said. “But at the same time, why are they not seeing that they're going to get sued by the thousands or millions of healthcare professionals that get ill, die, hospitalized because they were exposed?”

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/...sia-and-europe-but-us-hospitals-wont-buy-them
 
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A very simple solution. All the N95 3M masks made in China can be shipped exclusively to the US and the Chinese company ones can be sent to everybody else.

Let's see how well that goes over...
 
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A very simple solution. All the N95 3M masks made in China can be shipped exclusively to the US and the Chinese company ones can be sent to everybody else.

Let's see how well that goes over...
Why US hosptials is having an acute shortage of masks and they ask the public to make masks for them? Why it didn't happen in China and we can buy them in every drug store?
 
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Why US hosptials is having an acute shortage of masks and they ask the public to make masks for them? Why it didn't happen in China and we can buy them in every drug store?

Because we shipped our N95 supply to China. Our warehouses were empty in February.
 
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Because we shipped our N95 supply to China. Our warehouses were empty in February.
LOl, US didn't donate many masks to China to empty their own wearhouses, you don't even believe this lie, do you? US complains that China withholds the supply for her own use first. You never had them, we always do.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/11/business/economy/coronavirus-china-trump-drugs.html
China does not appear to be explicitly blocking the export of pharmaceuticals, though it has cut off exports of face masks by requiring manufacturers to sell masks straight to the government for distribution, leaving none to send overseas.
 
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LOl, US didn't donate many masks to China to empty their own wearhouses, you don't even believe this lie, do you? US complains that China withholds the supply for her own use first. You never had them, we always do.

Even Canada is saying it was stupid to send their equipment to China.

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/la...didnt-cause-the-mask-shortage-governments-did

Canada sent masks and protective equipment to China—and now we're running out


"...If governments wanted to secure a supply for health-care workers, they could have purchased them in bulk when they were still available, or mandated that stores stop selling them to the public and make them available to the health-care system. Instead, the Canadian government sent 16 tonnes of protective equipment, including masks, to China.

And now, it’s too late. Very few masks remain available."
 
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USA has other plans. Out of the 2Trillion dollars, only $153billion is for healthcare

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Even Canada is saying it was stupid to send their equipment to China.

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/la...didnt-cause-the-mask-shortage-governments-did

Canada sent masks and protective equipment to China—and now we're running out


"...If governments wanted to secure a supply for health-care workers, they could have purchased them in bulk when they were still available, or mandated that stores stop selling them to the public and make them available to the health-care system. Instead, the Canadian government sent 16 tonnes of protective equipment, including masks, to China.

And now, it’s too late. Very few masks remain available."
You just have 16 tons? how many are N95? China gives out hundreds of tons around world every single day,but we still have enough in our warehouses.

"Shengjingtong is one of the thousands of companies transitioning to become part of China's mask-making "army," As the government calls it. Aided by generous government subsidies, Guan filled a sterile space in a pharmaceuticals factory he already owned with second-hand machinery to assemble the masks. Within 11 days, they were making more than 10,000 N95 masks a day. Now, it's 200,000."


 
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You just have 16 tons? how many are N95? China gives out hundreds of tons around world every single day,but we still have enough in our warehouses.

"Shengjingtong is one of the thousands of companies transitioning to become part of China's mask-making "army," As the government calls it. Aided by generous government subsidies, Guan filled a sterile space in a pharmaceuticals factory he already owned with second-hand machinery to assemble the masks. Within 11 days, they were making more than 10,000 N95 masks a day. Now, it's 200,000."



So why were many countries sending their critical stuff to you...if you didn't need it...and why were you accepting it?

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hmmm?? Some of the conspiracy theories are starting to fall into place...
 
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So why were many countries sending their critical stuff to you...if you didn't need it.

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hmmm??
Doznes of countries showed solidarity with China by donate some supplies here and there to China, it's more of a goodwill gesture, China has been fighting the virus almost totally by herself and her own supply. We never urgently asked for foreign help.

What China did was to mobilize her juggernaut manufacturing might to meet the demand, no other countries can do this.
 
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We never urgently asked for foreign help.

Oh LOL!!!!
Chinese have such laughably short memories...it's AMAZING

I bet you have already rewritten your history books to omit things like this.

https://www.france24.com/en/20200203-china-says-urgently-needs-medical-masks-to-tackle-virus
China says 'urgently needs' medical masks to tackle virus

China said Monday it "urgently needs" protective medical equipment as the death toll in the country from a highly contagious coronavirus passed that of the 2002 SARS crisis, with more than 17,000 infected.

Fears of the virus have spurred people in the densely-populated country of 1.4 billion to stock up on single-use surgical masks, while frontline medical personnel at the centre of the outbreak have reported equipment shortages.

"What China urgently needs at present are medical masks, protective suits, and safety goggles," the foreign ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said in a press briefing.

At full capacity, China's factories are only able to produce around 20 million masks a day, according to the ministry of industry.

The foreign ministry said countries including South Korea, Japan, Kazakhstan and Hungary have donated medical supplies.

Tian Yulong of the industry ministry said earlier Monday that authorities were taking steps to bring in masks from Europe, Japan and the US, adding that supply and demand in China remained in "tight equilibrium" as factories returned to production after the Lunar New Year lull.

He said they were now operating at "between 60 and 70 percent capacity".

In addition to Hubei, the province of more than 50 million people at the centre of the outbreak, several other provinces and cities across China have made it compulsory to wear masks in public as virus fears have grown.

These include Guangdong -- China's most populous province -- plus Sichuan, Jiangxi, Liaoning and the city of Nanjing, with a combined population of more than 300 million.

The death toll from the coronavirus soared past 360 on Monday, exceeding the 349 mainland fatalities from the 2002-03 SARS outbreak, although SARS killed a higher percentage of people infected.
 
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Oh LOL!!!!
Chinese have such laughably short memories...it's AMAZING

I bet you have already rewritten your history books to omit things like this.

https://www.france24.com/en/20200203-china-says-urgently-needs-medical-masks-to-tackle-virus
China says 'urgently needs' medical masks to tackle virus

China said Monday it "urgently needs" protective medical equipment as the death toll in the country from a highly contagious coronavirus passed that of the 2002 SARS crisis, with more than 17,000 infected.

Fears of the virus have spurred people in the densely-populated country of 1.4 billion to stock up on single-use surgical masks, while frontline medical personnel at the centre of the outbreak have reported equipment shortages.

"What China urgently needs at present are medical masks, protective suits, and safety goggles," the foreign ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said in a press briefing.

At full capacity, China's factories are only able to produce around 20 million masks a day, according to the ministry of industry.

The foreign ministry said countries including South Korea, Japan, Kazakhstan and Hungary have donated medical supplies.

Tian Yulong of the industry ministry said earlier Monday that authorities were taking steps to bring in masks from Europe, Japan and the US, adding that supply and demand in China remained in "tight equilibrium" as factories returned to production after the Lunar New Year lull.

He said they were now operating at "between 60 and 70 percent capacity".

In addition to Hubei, the province of more than 50 million people at the centre of the outbreak, several other provinces and cities across China have made it compulsory to wear masks in public as virus fears have grown.

These include Guangdong -- China's most populous province -- plus Sichuan, Jiangxi, Liaoning and the city of Nanjing, with a combined population of more than 300 million.

The death toll from the coronavirus soared past 360 on Monday, exceeding the 349 mainland fatalities from the 2002-03 SARS outbreak, although SARS killed a higher percentage of people infected.
That was just an general appeal, did China reach out to any particular countries for the supply like what every country comes to China today? Which country gave China significant help which made a dent in China's fight against the virus? Chinese manufacturing might turned the tide, not foreign aids.
 
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That was just an general appeal, did China reach out to any particular countries for the supply like what every country comes to China today? Which country gave China significant help which made a dent in China's fight against the virus? Chinese manufacturing might turned the tide, not foreign aids.

You mean the COMBINED help of NUMEROUS countries...which seriously affected their own later response.
 
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You mean the COMBINED help of NUMEROUS countries...which seriously affected their own later response.
China gives out hundreds of tons of supplies every single day, US has just 16 tons in your warehouses? The number can not even support a small town.
 
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