What's new

China is crushing the U.S. in 'economic warfare'

beijingwalker

ELITE MEMBER
Joined
Nov 4, 2011
Messages
65,195
Reaction score
-55
Country
China
Location
China
China is crushing the U.S. in 'economic warfare'
by Heather Long @byHeatherLongJune 30, 2016: 9:12 AM ET
It's China 1, USA 0 when it comes to so-called "economic warfare."
As China has risen to become the world's No. 2 economy, it has repeatedly used its business and financial clout to get what it wants on the world stage, say foreign policy experts Robert Blackwill and Jennifer Harris.


When Norway gave Chinese dissident Liu Xiaobo the Nobel Peace Prize in 2010, China dramatically scaled back its salmon purchases from Norway and halted trade talks. When tensions escalated between the Philippines and China over a territorial dispute in the South China Sea, China let Philippine bananas rot in its ports.

Over the years, Beijing has retaliated so strongly by cutting (or threatening to cut) business ties with any nation recognizing Taiwan that only 22 nations still formally call Taiwan the "Republic of China."

These are only a few examples that Blackwill and Harris lay out in their new book, "War by Other Means." Their thesis is simple: The U.S. should be using similar tactics to China's -- and doing it better. Right now, America is getting crushed.

"Despite having the most powerful economy on earth, the United States too often reaches for the gun instead of the purse in its international conduct," they write.

China doesn't just use punitive measures to get what it wants. It routinely gives loans and aid to countries like Venezuela that are at odds with the United States. Beijing also wields its massive sovereign wealth fund to invest -- tactically -- in parts of the world where it also wants to build political ties.

The Chinese even engage in "soccer stadium diplomacy" where they fund and construct brand new stadiums, mostly in African countries with natural resources that China wants.

The U.S. used to flex its economic muscle more

The U.S. used to excel in this arena. As most American school children know, Thomas Jefferson nearly doubled the size of the nation with the Louisiana Purchase. He didn't go to Paris with an army, he went with a checkbook. For $15 million, the results were effective.

Similarly, Abraham Lincoln threatened Britain that if it sided with the Confederacy during the U.S. Civil War, it would lose billions that it had invested in U.S. assets. And when Britain invaded the Suez Canal in 1956, Dwight Eisenhower (himself a decorated WWII veteran) threatened to collapse the British pound if the U.K. didn't withdraw.

"Geoeconomics tends to be easier and cheaper" than military conflict, Blackwill and Harris write in "War by Other Means." It's one of the reasons China, Russia and others are doing it.

A critical time

But in the past 30 years, Blackwill and Harris argue the U.S. has largely stopped using geoeconomics, preferring military force instead. The one exception is sanctions like those against Iran.

t's a particularly critical time to change that approach, they say, as markets become more global (i.e., whathappens with Brexit impacts the world), and countries are reconsidering which economic tie is more important to them: the U.S. or China?

These ideas aren't Republican or Democrat, the authors argue. Blackwill was a senior official in President George W. Bush's White House. Harris served in President Obama's administration in both the State Department (under Hillary Clinton) and the National Intelligence Council.


Of course, much like military campaigns, economic warfare doesn't always work out. China is learning that in South America. Its plans to build a huge train line running from coast to coast of the continent are backfiring as Brazil's economy tanks and its political system is in disarray after a massive corruption scandal. All the money China pumped into Venezuela is now in doubt as well with the economic turmoil there.

Still, China is gaining a reputation as the lender of last resort. That gives it a lot of power on the world stage.

"Nations do not fear China's military might; they fear its ability to give or withhold trade and investments," wrote Leslie Gelb, president emeritus of the Council on Foreign Relations, in an essay in the magazine "Foreign Affairs" in 2010.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/06/30/news/economy/china-us-war-by-other-means/
 
. .
How long will it take for China to be the No.1 Economy in the World, Overthrowing USA?
 
. . . . .
The US is using its economies of scale, for sure, and this is through sanctions.

On this, I do not agree the simplistic China: 1, US: 0 inference.

What is different is the way the two major powers choose to use their economic weight around the world.

Having almost absolute control over most of the global financial structure and with its finance companies hugely embedded in the post-War financial regime, the US has the ultimate advantage.

China is a late comer and simply picking up in terms of influence and, to a less degree, control.

China's being the largest trading partner in the world, as well as largest trading nation, does give it certain leverage, but, this advantage is not to be used recklessly, and has almost never been used punitively.

True capability comes from the control over global transactions and institutional penetration. China has only recently began to build up capacity and there is no indication that it would use its economies of scale as a punitive instrument like the US does.
 
Last edited:
.
China can never equal the innovation and manufacturing base of US which means all such headlines of China crushing USA are for the feel good factor of amateur..unless a major market manipulation takes place to push the dollar out of global economy just like it occurred to Deutsche Mark post WW1. ...China has no advantage at its hands to pull..
 
.
China can never equal the innovation and manufacturing base of US which means all such headlines of China crushing USA are for the feel good factor of amateur..unless a major market manipulation takes place to push the dollar out of global economy just like it occurred to Deutsche Mark post WW1. ...China has no advantage at its hands to pull..

The article is not talking about manufacturing or innovation. It is talking about using economy as a punitive instrument to change behavior; hence his usage of 'warfare.'

I agree that the US leads the world in terms of capacity and capability in economic warfare. I am not sure China would be willing to throw its economies of scale around like the US has been doing over the past seven decades -- even if it did equal capacity.
 
Last edited:
. .
China can never equal the innovation and manufacturing base of US which means all such headlines of China crushing USA are for the feel good factor of amateur..unless a major market manipulation takes place to push the dollar out of global economy just like it occurred to Deutsche Mark post WW1. ...China has no advantage at its hands to pull..


I wouldn't say "never".

For US to maintain its stranglehold on the world, it has to get everything right all the time. For China to win, it simply has to wait for US to make enough mistakes. If anything, the odds are in favor of China.
 
.
The article is not talking about manufacturing or innovation. It is talking about using economy as a punitive instrument to change behavior; hence his usage of 'warfare.'

I agree that the US leads the world in terms of capacity and capability in economic warfare. I am not sure China would be willing to throw its economies of scale around like the US has been doing over the past seven decades -- even if it did equal capacity.

Hey just curious to know, I am reading a lot about China economic crisis in the media. Do you people feel any impact to your economy ? Is it true ? Cuz, 2001 & 2008 our IT industry faced a lot of changes as reported in media like challenges to get new job and switching job etc.
 
.
Hey just curious to know, I am reading a lot about China economic crisis in the media. Do you people feel any impact to your economy ? Is it true ? Cuz, 2001 & 2008 our IT industry faced a lot of changes as reported in media like challenges to get new job and switching job etc.

In China's Taiwan, there is persistent youth-unemployment and housing problem in major cities as the prices are crazy expensive and it is impossible for a regular working person to buy home if no extra income.

Food inflation is also rising, but, overall, it is pretty much alright.

Any time I visit Mainland China, I feel the vigor and power of spending. I know purchasing power is quite strong, inflation is under control, employment is steady, and export-import balance is healthy.

There are tensions from China's economic transition and getting rid of the excess weight gained during the explosive growth. But, the management and technocratic capability of China economic policy-making is second to none. So, there is full confidence.

Mostly, people are just striving for better and there is no lack of opportunities.
 
.
Just Like it is doing in Pakistan :cheers: . Chinese are Indeed very Smart .

No, that is not the example, I think India is the suitable example, you see after the NSG fiasco, India still remain doing business with China which mean we're able to corrupt Modi's cabinet in behalf of China interest, win-win for China and Indians corrupted officials :cheers:
 
.

Pakistan Defence Latest Posts

Pakistan Affairs Latest Posts

Back
Top Bottom