China is Better Developed Than America

[Hamartia Antidote]

Villages and small towns turn into cities,

How does a small town turn into a city if there is not a population shift? Unless your definition of a city has nothing to do with population numbers but just the housing type.

Not sure what the concrete stat is supposed to prove. The use of concrete in the US is minimal. Maybe for highway overpasses and places with cement sidewalks and home foundations.

 

[beijingwalker]

How does a small town turn into a city if there is not a population shift? Unless your definition of a city has nothing to do with population numbers but just the housing type.

A big Chinese village can easily have more people than some US towns, but in China, if they are poor and underdevloped, we still tend to call them villages, once they become modern looking with first class infrastructures and facilities, we start to tend to call them towns or " new cities". Zhongguancun in Chinese is Zhongguan Village, it's not a village now by all means.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

A big Chinese village can easily have more people than some US towns, but in China, if they are poor and underdevloped, we still tend to call them villages, once they become modern looking with first class infrastructures and facilities, we start to tend to call them towns or " new cities". Zhongguancun in Chinese is Zhongguan Village, it's not a village now by all means.

LOL! I guess we will have to be calling all of our suburbs "cities" according to your definition. That's 35,000 "cities" in the US.

Welcome to US city life in the suburbs.

 

[Philip the Arab]

A big Chinese village can easily have more people than some US towns, but in China, if they are poor and underdevloped, we still tend to call them villages, once they become modern looking with first class infrastructures and facilities, we start to tend to call them towns or " new cities". Zhongguancun in Chinese is Zhongguan Village, it's not a village now by all means.

US infrastructure is very good period.

 

[beijingwalker]

LOL! I guess we will have to be calling all of our suburbs "cities" according to your definition. That's 35,000 "cities" in the US.

Dachonglonng cun 大长陇村 , population 200,000.

 

[Dungeness]

China is Better Developed Than America

It really depends the definition of "developed".

If it means infrastructure building, yes, China is more developed in terms of the sheer scale and modernity than American's aging highways and bridges. But if it means the rule of laws, America is miles ahead. And there is also a difference in social psyche. In America, people tend to think "if I should do it" before doing a morally questionable thing, but in China, people tend to think "if I can get away with it".

 

[beijingwalker]

LOL! I guess we will have to be calling all of our suburbs "cities" according to your definition. That's 35,000 "cities" in the US.

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Welcome to US city life in the suburbs.

In China, suburbs are very different from villages, Suburbs Beijing is many times bigger than Beijing city proper, connected with highways and the world largest subway and HSR system.

 

[Dungeness]

This person simply doesn't understand the US if he is focusing on major cities.
The situation in the US is the opposite of China. China is pulling its citizens out of old undeveloped poor rural areas into newly developed richer urban areas. These rural areas lose their best people and end up looking abandoned.

The US is going the opposite route.
We are pulling people out of old cities into newly developed richer suburban areas. This leaves the cities without their best people and looking abandoned.

Considering the majority of the US now lives in suburbia; I think the guy in the video is looking in the wrong places for his definition of developed.

Everyone has his own view of the US. We can say whose view is more right than others.

The trend is reversing now, at least in my part of America. I cant see lots of high rise condo buildings sprung up everywhere in downtown area where homeless people used to camp out. I toured a few of them, and they are very expensive. 800SF one bedroom condo costs a cool million.

 

[beijingwalker]

In America, people tend to think "if I should do it" before doing a morally questionable thing, but in China, people tend to think "if I can get away with it".

Kind of true but it's getting better with more people receiving higher education. A decade ago guys in Beijing liked to go shirtless in summer and being proud of being “膀爷”， now you see no one do it, cause now people see it as being uncivilised , rude and bad upbringing.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Everyone has his own view of the US. We can say whose view is more right than others.

The trend is reversing now, at least in my part of America. I can see lots of high rise condo buildings sprung up everywhere in downtown area where homeless people used to camp out. I toured a few of them, and they are every expensive. 800SF one bedroom condo costs a cool million.

But technically didn't he just paint himself into a corner (in terms of the OP title). He said they still call places villages/towns until they become "modern looking". Now obviously there are places in the US more modern than others (like a nice suburb vs some corner of Montana). However pretty much everywhere has electricity, phones, hot&cold running water and paved roads. Putting up a brand new residential building and a shopping mall really isn't going to make it more "developed".

 

[Dungeness]

Kind of true but it's getting better with more people receiving higher education. A decade ago guys in Beijing liked to go shirtless in summer and being proud of being “膀爷”， now you see no one do it, cause now people see it as being uncivilised , rude and bad upbringing.

Really? That's encouraging. Once China sets a direction, it moves very quickly. Thanks to its efficient governmental system and social mobilization ability.

But technically didn't he just paint himself into a corner. He said they still call places villages/towns until they become "modern looking". Now obviously there are places in the US more modern than others (like a nice suburb vs some corner of Montana). However pretty much everywhere has electricity, phones, hot&cold running water and paved roads. Putting up a brand new residential building and a shopping mall really isn't going to make it more "developed".

Many Chinese 4th tier cities (equivalent to bedroom town around metropolitan in the US) are mega cities themselves by US standard, while in most small cities in the US, there are not much development besides a grocery store, a Walmart, a gas station and a city hall. And they might have been like that for the last 50 years.

The key word is "develop", and that's where Chinese cities shine. Every city in China I visited a few years ago, would look very different if I revisit them this summer.

 

[beijingwalker]

But technically didn't he just paint himself into a corner (in terms of the OP title). He said they still call places villages/towns until they become "modern looking". Now obviously there are places in the US more modern than others (like a nice suburb vs some corner of Montana). However pretty much everywhere has electricity, phones, hot&cold running water and paved roads. Putting up a brand new residential building and a shopping mall really isn't going to make it more "developed".

I never said that is the only factor, I said people tend to, of course it also involves other factors , besides, in China people also tend to think villagers are mainly on farming.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Really? That's encouraging. Once China sets a direction, it moves very quickly. Thanks to its efficient governmental system and social mobilization ability.

Many Chinese 4th tier cities (equivalent to bedroom town around metropolitan in the US) are mega cities themselves by US standard, while in most small cities in the US, there are not much development besides a grocery store, a Walmart, a gas station and a city hall. And they might have been like that for the last 50 years.

The key word is "develop", and that's where Chinese cities shine. Every city in China I visited a few years ago, would look very different if I revisit them this summer.

That's mostly due to population density. A "city" with just one gas station probably has < 10,000 people in it. Any more than that and the line to pump gas would be extending down the road. Or they simply restrict commercial development. Many wealthy towns don't allow any commercial development as they don't need the tax money.

 

[randomradio]

Didn't stop Iraqi Muslims attacking Iranian Muslims in 1980.

Shia-Sunni. Neither considers the other to be a true Muslim.

It also didn't stop bengali Muslims joining forces with idol worshippers to attack Pakistani Muslims in 1971.

The army chief was a Parsi and the general who Niazi actually surrendered to was a Jew.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Shia-Sunni. Neither considers the other to be a true Muslim.



The army chief was a Parsi and the general who Niazi actually surrendered to was a Jew.

Evidence please........