Wo ...
you really spend some BTU replying.
OK. You win the most patriotic immigrant award.
It's not about being patriotic immigrant (I don't even know what that have to do with anything to begin with) It's about Geopolitics and Military progress. Anyone would have make the same suggestion and observation. It does not matter if the person making it is American, Australian, Chinese or Martian.
Stop being a smart arse if you want people to take your argument seriously, otherwise if you draw in some ridiculous point in your argument, you looks like a joke rather than being serious.
First the CPC inherited a devastated and bankrupt agricultural country. Yet managed to hold off a much better armed industrialized United States to a draw. Without even having air superiority nor naval superiority.
I think they did very well.
Again, that is not a military achievement, when you are have 250,000 KIA (Conservative number, higher ceiling up to 1 million Chinese died in that war) compare to US 36,000 KIA, the number of men the Chinese can be used other wise to either put in home front and re-develop after the ravaging Civil War or to recapture Taiwan if it wanted to do so Militaristically, the men died in that war deal a major blow to the Chinese development, making it no longer operationally able to do what the Chinese set out to do, which making it a strategic failure and operational failure.
In a war, when we discuss the outcome, we look at it Strategically, Operationally and Tactically.
Strategically, the goal for China is to remove the American Threat to the Chinese Northern Border, by popping up the Northern Regime, but the American Threat has not been removed, which the American is still in South Korea, which mean if and when the American decided to mobilize again, they have the material support from South Korea as well as the mean to initiate the invasion. Unless you think North Korea alone can be used to deal with this without the Help of the Chinese, that threat still remain, the different is just 450 mile further away. Which, to be honest, is not much. Also, if you look at the before and after, the Demarcation line did not change much, which is still quite rightly squared on the 38th parallel, the only difference is that,
before the war begin in 1950, there were no US base and no Significant amount of US troop in South Korea, in 2017, the line is the same but there are 43,000 US troop and 20 US bases in South Korea. Some can argue that this war from 1950-1953, attracted the American to settle in South Korea, meaning?
this war pull the US threat closer to the Chinese border from the nearest US troop being stationed in Japan in 1950, which is over the sea of Japan, to there are US troop just 450 Miles south of Chinese border in South Korea.
Also, the North Korea have increasing become Chinese Financial, Military, and Political burden, which is not something Chinese want to beginning.
Operationally, Chinese have a significant shortage of men which limited what China can do after the Korea War. Which mean the Chinese failed this Operationally because of this war, Chinese recovery has been basically longer and more painful.
Tactically, it is a draw, because neither China and UN can achieve their goal, US wanted to roll over North Korea, which is a mistake as I pointed out before, which is not to be, and the Chinese wanted to roll over the South, which is not to be as well, and the war stopped (NOT ENDED) almost the same as where it started.
To you, maybe the Romantic account of how Chinese Soldier died in herd bravely under the American Machine gun and air attack stopped the American invasion into the North is something of a good thing, but in military account, it meant nothing as that is not any sort of achievement, these people died while did not achieve anything in a grand scheme of thing, people died, the line is the same, the situation is the same, again, the only different is, there weren't any US troop before the war, there are now. So, in term of military goal, 250,000 Chinese died did not earn Chinese anything. Other than a state to feed and a scare of Refugee crisis over the Chinese border had the North Korea steam into trouble again.
Secondly. MacArthur after winning would pass the entire Korea to a dictator that he put in place and just leave ?
And after taking N Korea why would he not be emboldened to move on to Beijing with the KMT before the CPC get a chance to consolidate their power?
You are mistaken the assumption of Chinese Not Helping the North Korean (Which is the scenario I purposed) and Chinese help but lose the War. Don't forget had Chinese not intervene, the Chinese can use the people they use to fight in Korea for other objective.
Had the war ended in MacArthur favour without Chinese intervention, he would have return to Japan and continue to be the governor of Japan, the US position at that point in time is focus on Japan, not Korea, that is the reason why the
American do not have any amount of troop in South Korea in 1950, the first fighting troop in South Korea is Task Force Smith of the 24th Infantry Division, which is 408 soldiers arrived in South Korea in July 1, 1950 from Garrison in Japan. 6 Days after the start of hostility. The US government weren't even bothered with rearming the South Korea prior to Korea war, citing the risk of the South would use the power to invade the North and drag US into a war they do not want.
Had the South Rolled over the North, the South Korean president Rhee would most likely invite the American to leave because the American Stance toward the Japanese. And there are absolutely no reason as to why the United States have to stay once the Korea peninsular is reunified. Which is again the reason why US would not help the South Korean before the hostility.
The problem is, had Chinese not intervene, the Chinese can use those force otherwise fought in Korea on recapturing Taiwan. The Taiwan Problem would be the same, the level of support the American gave to Taiwan is at maximum after the KMT government to chased back to a tiny island, what the KMT is waiting on is a Coup de grâce, the final assault that never came. Because the troop the Chinese need to retake Taiwan in the final assault has been used in Korea. Had Chinese not help the North, this is most likely the case where the Chinese will use the troop to attack Taiwan. Which I don't think American can do anything when they are fighting another war in the North.
In fact, some can actually argue had China not intervene in the North Korean war, the US have to be careful because of the millions (It is estimated 1.5 to 3 millions Chinese fought in Korea) The American may actually have to surrender Taiwan or Korea or both to consolidate their position elsewhere in South East Asia (namely in South Vietnam, Philippine and Japan). Afterall, 1.5 (low estimate) millions troop in Chinese Reserve is actually quite a scary number, and basically
Chinese just dish this out on a foreign land in Korea, and with the US in their best position, which is with UN support, now imagine if Chinese uses these troop against the US in South East Asia alone? Without the help of the UN, without the help of the 600,000 strong South Korean? They could have achieve more than they did in Korean War.
