Dubious
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I don't agree with all reports....Some propaganda videos of China are from unknowns sources...no one actually knows if those are actors....There is no evidence whatsoever for Zenz's claims. He sites sources, who he doesn't name, and these sources give rough estimates of number detained in small rural areas (think 1000-2000 people), then he "deduces" that these estimates can be generalized to the entire Muslim population in Xinjiang. His report is published online, it's 40 or 50 pages.
Then he gave a 600,000 high end estimate .... for people who have ever been in any "deradicalization" center for any period of time from a few days to years.
The media then says its 1 million permanently detained, then 2 million, 3 million, all without proof, substantiation or clarification.
Complete nonsense lies like EVERYTHING the West says about China if you have been paying attention. Don't be fooled.
Now who we can trust are neutral people like Indonesia...
@Indos posted a video and report from Indonesian paper about Indonesian officials who had been to the camps and were not satisfied. Interesting enough same reports in Chinese paper came with a flying colour pass for China! This is why I doubt chinese news as well...they exaggerate everyhing in their favour....which no one denies because that is how censorship looks like.
and some Chinese member came out and said that Indonesian version is fake or poorly translated. I understand bahasa Indonesia / Malay so telling me that was pure propaganda bs and when I questioned it....I am a biased mod lolz