China Exports of HSR, Trains, Metro, Tram, Rolling Stocks, etc: News

[Han Patriot]

Apparently because CRRC has not paid all of its suppliers on time and the trains are being assembled with missing parts and CRRC is not actively checking to make sure those missing parts are eventually put in.

News report describes ‘toxic environment’ at CRRC factory manufacturing MBTA cars - Trains

SPRINGFIELD, Mass. — The Massachusetts factory where China’s CRRC is building rapid-transit cars for the Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority is a “toxic environment” where equipment is advanced on the assembly line despite missing parts and workers often wait months for parts to arrive...

www.trains.com

Of course the CIA needs to fck it up even if it meant screwing up their own infrastructure.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Of course the CIA needs to fck it up even if it meant screwing up their own infrastructure.

No, this is just the typical sh*t quality control Chinese company products are notorious for around the world.

 

[nang2]

No, this is just the typical sh*t quality control Chinese company products are notorious for around the world.

How is your experience with the new Orange line car made by a Chinese company?

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

How is your experience with the new Orange line car made by a Chinese company?

I haven't had a chance to check them out since I don't ride that line. They seem to be doing better than the red line ones.

However things aren't all rosey with those cars either

MBTA finds more problems with Springfield-built Orange Line cars, pulls nine from service

The MBTA identified nine cars where some arcing appears to have occurred and have removed all of the impacted cars for repairs including the replacement of the axles.

www.masslive.com

MBTA finds more problems with Springfield-built Orange Line cars, pulls nine from service​

Hundreds of Red and Orange Line cars have yet to be delivered. The governor says she's looking into it

The T for years has had contracts worth nearly $900 million in place with Chinese rail company CRRC to replace the entire Red and Orange Line fleets with 404 brand-new vehicles, but so far only 78 Orange Line cars and 12 Red Line cars have been delivered.

www.wbur.org

 

[nang2]

I haven't had a chance to check them out since I don't ride that line. They seem to be doing better than the red line ones.

However things aren't all rosey with those cars either

MBTA finds more problems with Springfield-built Orange Line cars, pulls nine from service

The MBTA identified nine cars where some arcing appears to have occurred and have removed all of the impacted cars for repairs including the replacement of the axles.

www.masslive.com

MBTA finds more problems with Springfield-built Orange Line cars, pulls nine from service​

Hundreds of Red and Orange Line cars have yet to be delivered. The governor says she's looking into it

The T for years has had contracts worth nearly $900 million in place with Chinese rail company CRRC to replace the entire Red and Orange Line fleets with 404 brand-new vehicles, but so far only 78 Orange Line cars and 12 Red Line cars have been delivered.

www.wbur.org

Considering the track quality, it wouldn't surprise me that more new cars would show problems. The redline track above the ground near Quincy was so bumpy that I thought the car was going to derail everytime I rode it.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Considering the track quality, it wouldn't surprise me that more new cars would show problems. The redline track above the ground near Quincy was so bumpy that I thought the car was going to derail everytime I rode it.

So I have been on the new red line ones (well twice i think) and they seem to be switching back to the 1960's plastic seats.

this is the 1960's one

this is the previous one (~1980's?)

this the new one

 

[nang2]

So I have been on the new red line ones (well twice i think) and they seem to be switching back to the 1960's plastic seats.

this is the 1960's one

this is the previous one (~1980's?)

this the new one

Plastic seats are much easier to clean. I was never a fan of those fabric-covered seat anyway.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Plastic seats are much easier to clean. I was never a fan of those fabric-covered seat anyway.

Uh..well you can ask airlines to switch to them too....we'll see how well that goes over.

 

[nang2]

Uh..well you can ask airlines to switch to them too....we'll see how well that goes over.

Well, you pay for the cleaning of the fabric-covered seats on the airplanes and you surely sit on one of those in each trip. As long as you are willing to pay for it, it works perfectly well for you. I doubt anyone wants to have fare raise on the sub just to get fabric seats. Most of the time, I don't even get to sit down.

 

[Han Patriot]

No, this is just the typical sh*t quality control Chinese company products are notorious for around the world.

I rode in multiple Chinese made Metros in SEA and China, it is just a standard metro line. Nothing shitty about it unless you want to create shit on purpose. It's political and you know it.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

I rode in multiple Chinese made Metros in SEA and China, it is just a standard metro line. Nothing shitty about it unless you want to create shit on purpose. It's political and you know it.

So you think Singapore was lying about the trains being delivered with cracks?

 

[Han Patriot]

So you think Singapore was lying about the trains being delivered with cracks?

I am in the shipbuilding industry, cracks are common and can be rectified easily. Singapore and Malaysia are still buying Chinese metros to this day.

I reread the saga of the Sg trainset, it was blown out of proportion by the Western media, the cracks were minor and easily rectified and is xommon during routine maintenance.

I also read this boston saga, same politicking shit, the trains were built in US using Chinese tech and the unions are fcking up the schedule, sabotaging shit.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

I reread the saga of the Sg trainset, it was blown out of proportion by the Western media, the cracks were minor and easily rectified and is xommon during routine maintenance.

Did you actually watch the video????

The trains were sent all the way back to China.

11 defective trains sent back to China repaired and returned to Singapore: LTA

SINGAPORE: Eleven defective trains sent back to China for repairs have been repaired and returned to Singapore, according to an update from the Land Transport Authority (LTA) on Wednesday (Aug 8).It was revealed in 2016 that

www.channelnewsasia.com

I guess this is the Chinese version of "easy maintenance"?

You wonder why China has a bad rep...if easy maintenance means sending a train back to the factory???

 

[Han Patriot]

Did you actually watch the video????

The trains were sent all the way back to China.

11 defective trains sent back to China repaired and returned to Singapore: LTA

SINGAPORE: Eleven defective trains sent back to China for repairs have been repaired and returned to Singapore, according to an update from the Land Transport Authority (LTA) on Wednesday (Aug 8).It was revealed in 2016 that

www.channelnewsasia.com

I guess this is the Chinese version of "easy maintenance"?

You wonder why China has a bad rep...if easy maintenance means sending a train back to the factory???

I suggest you read the saga. They forced the manufacturers to send it back. The Chinese team said it was mot serious and could be rectified easily, but of course the Indian team in SMRT couldn't stand a Chinese train in Sg. Btw, i stayed in Sg for 5 years, sort of remember this story. The train was even made in a Kawasaki jv factory. Lolol

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

The Chinese team said it was mot serious and could be rectified easily,

LOL! look at the dates of when they were sent back and when they were returned. 2 years!!

Again this is China's idea of something not serious and exactly why they have a bad reputation around the world with their customers for quality and service.


JUL 6, 2016

26 China-made MRT trains sent back to fix defects

SINGAPORE - Several of Singapore's first China-made MRT trains are being shipped back to their manufacturer for structural defects. Read more at straitstimes.com.

www.straitstimes.com

08 Aug 2018

11 defective trains sent back to China repaired and returned to Singapore: LTA

SINGAPORE: Eleven defective trains sent back to China for repairs have been repaired and returned to Singapore, according to an update from the Land Transport Authority (LTA) on Wednesday (Aug 8).It was revealed in 2016 that

www.channelnewsasia.com

The problem is you are likely used to this in China and having something given a monikor of "not serious" and then taking years to correct is just something easily accepted by the public.