China 'edges closer' to war with US as Xi Jinping loses patience, former MI6 deputy warns

[Viet]

Are you a real Chinese person or a lifeless troll?

I’m against war of any sorts China isn’t exempted from that.

I’m sorry if that hurts your glass heart but you can’t force me to support a boneheaded invasion of a people.

Xi would begin the war against Taiwan as soon as possible. He wants to go in history as the greatest hero. He wants to please nationalist feelings of chinese populace. He is just thinking possible consequences, reactions from other countries.
Which country would support the war? Accept Cambodia, a loyal China stooge, I don’t see any else.
The same when Xi starts the war against Vietnam, Japan and Australia.
As Pakistani you lost love feeling of chinese people if you say anything they don’t like.

 

[Splurgenxs]

Oh ok i guess Ever Grande needs a 300bil ++ bailout ,

in the mean time sound the war drums.

 

[retaxis]

China is winning the peace while US is going in demographic and cultural decline. China would never wage war unless war is waged upon them.

 

[Titanium100]

Anyone who thinks support would come for Taiwan's assistance is deluded. In fact alot of people think this Australia pact is realistic or possible nobody will just compromise themselves in the middle of a hot war to dash across the Indian ocean or Pacific ocean at the other side of the world to Australia it compromises the entire US stragetic and tactical appraoch hence this is not feasible and just jeopardizes their forces meaning at the moment of a major outbreak nobody will come for Australia it is not because they dislike them or anything like that but it has solely something to do with tactical warfare positioning.

The US will fight from it's head headquarters which is solely in east-europe at the event of major conflict because fighting in Asia against conventional strong forces is not feasible or logistically possible hence fighting from a secure base as it's headquarters is what they seek and that is what they will do attack from East-Europe and trying to win the war by expanding from that territory into Russia and than onto China the likelihood things playing out like that is minimum I think they will be able to run over Russia but get stock in Asia and repelled running into alot of bodies hence why they will need a bigger alliance than just NATO because NATO itself won't be able to win such conflict and could be drained after just 3-4 years hence why they will need an alliance as large as NATO to reinforce NATO itself and assist them.

This is their main game-plan but as for Taiwan they have stragetically given up on that but Japan may fight or pull out last minute I lean on them just pulling out last time meaning nobody will intervene or come for Taiwan everything else is just empty talk

 

[Song Hong]

There are undeclared fightings between China and US.

1998 US deliberately bombed China embassy in Yugoslavia
2001 Chinese pilot Wang Wei ramped into US EP3

Many incidence which we do not know involving ramping of naval ship, as well as chicken game of ramping of aircraft.

 

[Falconless]

Why not admit Pakistan is terrorist country since you love western media so much.

Once again how they related? All I did was reference why the Argentines invaded the falklands.
Is this a soft spot for you?

Why are you being triggered by this historical footnote unless there’s some to that evergrande default news?

 

[Beidou2020]

If reunification by force is the option then I would like to see military spending much higher than the current 1.3% of GDP and a large nuclear arsenal.

 

[Falconless]

Some users here just have a holier than thau attitude about their country, if you can’t have a discussion without resorting to racial and xenophobic comments I don’t know why you are spending time here.
Don’t think this forum is an echo chamber.

China will not invade Taiwan unless they declare independent.

And why can’t they make that choice? You don’t believe in popular sovereignty? It’s their choice to make not yours.

 

[DJ_Viper]

There are only three paths: reunification by force, peaceful reunification, and independence by force. There is no possibility of peaceful reunification, only force is left. This has nothing to do with Xi's patience.

Will you risk your entire economy and growth over an Island that's in many ways more advanced?

 

[Beast]

Some users here just have a holier than thau attitude about their country, if you can’t have a discussion without resorting to racial and xenophobic comments I don’t know why you are spending time here.
Don’t think this forum is an echo chamber.

And why can’t they make that choice? You don’t believe in popular sovereignty? It’s their choice to make not yours.

It you being selective to stance on China but not apply to yours. Baluchistan also want independent, Why not let them have their choice without threat of using force? Can you? Dont be selective, tell me!

So what different when PRC used force to ensure country unity?

Will you risk your entire economy and growth over an Island that's in many ways more advanced?

Do you mean are US willing to risk entire economy and growth over an island unrelated to its own sovereignty?

And did Taiwan send a mars rover or build a space station? So who is the more advanced?

 

[Falconless]

Baluchistan also want independent

Sure there should be a referendum there, it’s not like we aren’t also promising Kashmir a referendum on independence.

Pakistan is already engaging the militants there to come to a political solution that works for everyone.

Anyways, looking forward to what other mental gymnastic trick you pull next.

 

[Titanium100]

Anyone who thinks support would come for Taiwan's assistance is deluded. In fact alot of people think this Australia pact is realistic or possible nobody will just compromise themselves in the middle of a hot war to dash across the Indian ocean or Pacific ocean at the other side of the world to Australia it compromises the entire US stragetic and tactical appraoch hence this is not feasible and just jeopardizes their forces meaning at the moment of a major outbreak nobody will come for Australia it is not because they dislike them or anything like that but it has solely something to do with tactical warfare positioning.

The US will fight from it's head headquarters which is solely in east-europe at the event of major conflict because fighting in Asia against conventional strong forces is not feasible or logistically possible hence fighting from a secure base as it's headquarters is what they seek and that is what they will do attack from East-Europe and trying to win the war by expanding from that territory into Russia and than onto China the likelihood things playing out like that is minimum I think they will be able to run over Russia but get stock in Asia and repelled running into alot of bodies hence why they will need a bigger alliance than just NATO because NATO itself won't be able to win such conflict and could be drained after just 3-4 years hence why they will need an alliance as large as NATO to reinforce NATO itself and assist them.

This is their main game-plan but as for Taiwan they have stragetically given up on that but Japan may fight or pull out last minute I lean on them just pulling out last time meaning nobody will intervene or come for Taiwan everything else is just empty talk

Another alternative is to reinforce Russia on the Donbass, Poland, Chezh and baltic regions with over 1m chinese forces with all sets of logistics and it has to happen quickly within 2-3 weeks they have to be at the frontline because Russia will be able to hold them for only few months and once the reinforce is there if they get defeated in east-Europe the war is lost for them because they will throw everything in the sink in the East-Europe front from the Americans, Germans, British, spainards, Italians, polish etc etc they will all throw in the sink on that frontline and if they were to get defeated in that frontline by putting in massive Chinese forces to reinforce this will throw everything into a spin for them because they are not calculatiing to meet the vast manpower of china so far up in their stronghold but their planning is to meet china 2-3 years later in Mongolia or inner mongolia and north China but this throws everything in their calculus in the pipeline.

If they were to be defeated there the war is basically over for them Russian and chinese forces will be able to advance into Germany, Italian and the other European states without being opposed because they already threw all the sink in East-Europe the war will be over after approx. 1-2 years something similar to WW2 where germany lost in East-Europe after throwing everything in the sink being drained there turning east-europe into Stalingarad but it can only turn into stalingarad if you throw all of their calculus in the pipeline by surprisingly fielding up their numerous chinese forces larger than the ocean

 

[Falconless]

Another alternative is to reinforce Russia on the Donbass, Poland, Chezh and baltic regions with over 1m chinese forces with all sets of logistics and it has to happen quickly within 2-3 weeks they have to be at the frontline because Russia will be able to hold them for months and once the reinforce is there if they get defeated in east-Europe the war is lost for them because they will throw everything in the sink in the East-Europe front from the Americans, Germans, British, spainards, Italians, polish etc etc they will all throw in the sink on that frontline and if they were to get defeated in that frontline by putting in massive Chinese forces to reinforce this will throw everything into a spin for them because they are not calculatiing to meet the vast manpower of china so far up in their stronghold but their planning is to meet china 2 years later in Mongolia or inner mongolia and north China but this throws everything in their calculus in the pipeline.

If they were to be defeated there the war is basically war for them Russian and chinese forces will be able to advance into Germany, Italian and the other European states without being opposed because they already threw all the sink in East-Europe the war will be war after appraoch 1 year something similar to WW2 where germany lost in East-Europe after throwing everything in the sink being drained there turning east-europe into Stalingarad but it can only turn into stalingarad if you throw all of their calculus in the pipeline by surprisingly fielding up their numerous chinese forces larger than the ocean

Wow somebody is eager to see the whole world burn.

 

[Titanium100]

Wow somebody is eager to see the whole world burn.

I don't understand why you gotta be gay with all this ''I am a peace maker act'' We are only discussing scenarios none of this may ever happen but this is just scenario talks don't derail it with your gayish interventions ''I am a peacemaker holier than thou act''

 

[Beast]

Sure there should be a referendum there, it’s not like we aren’t also promising Kashmir a referendum on independence.

Pakistan is already engaging the militants there to come to a political solution that works for everyone.

Anyways, looking forward to what other mental gymnastic trick you pull next.

What trick did I pull when its only cheap talk beside real action of referendum for Baluchistan. Until now PA is still using force to root out Baloch militant and opposed any independent action.

I don't understand why you gotta be gay with all this ''I am a peace maker act'' We are only discussing scenarios none of this may ever happen but this is just scenario talks don't derail it with your gayish interventions ''I am a peacemaker holier than thou act''

He is fake flag bearer. Just come in with pay check trying to ruin Sino-Pakistan r/s to suit his India or US master. True Pakistanis who is patriotic shall avoid listen to his Falcon troll venom words.