China decides to impose a 25% punitive tariff on 106 items U.S. goods (worth US$50 billion in total)

[Kai Liu]

You are nothing to americians but a place of cheap vn females!
not even a shithple to mention about!
buy your products???
the truthTrump want is US win win and every body lose lose,idiot vn monkey!
you have the obligation to buy us products but no products to us!
vn would take more attacks coz your reliance higher on trade 185% of your gdp while China 35%!
we shall see vn monkey!

They will buy 15 billion $ worth of soybean from their daddy... But I didn't know monkeys are feed on soybeans... Banana should be a better choice...

 

[Adam WANG SHANGHAI MEGA]

I am surprise to see that there are still idiots want to beleive that US can play things win win!
US,coz of its political system,particularly its congress limitation,always pursues US win win and everybody lose lose!

 

[cloud4000]

Two pretty important rules of governance that Trump should learn, the first is that no good can come of a trade war in this day and age, the second is even simpler; don't piss off your creditors.

No one wins in a trade war, true, but taking on China in trade is a popular issue in US, one of the few things Democrats and Republicans agree on. I expect some kind of deal, but I don't see it happening soon. As for creditors, US bonds still sell well.

 

[EndangeredSpecies]

China can also sell 1 trillion U.S. dollars of U.S. government bonds. We will find out whether the U.S. economy will collapse or the China's economy will do!

And sell it to whom? And in what form will you hold the proceeds? Remember, dollar is only worth the issuer, ie US govt! Also, that will screw you remaining holding, ie remaining US treasury bonds that you hold. It will hurt you more as you have about 3 trillion dollars worth of those bonds in your forex reserves.

Lastly, US can flatly deny or invalidate all the US treasury bonds held by you. It will screw their credit rating but it will wipe out your entire forex. They can do it in pretext of some 'human rights' or equally flimsy excuse. As they say, if you owe bank 1000 dollars you are in trouble if you don't pay. If you owe bank a 100 million, bank is in trouble if you don't pay.

 

[nang2]

I am surprise to see that there are still idiots want to beleive that US can play things win win!
US,coz of its political system,particularly its congress limitation,always pursues US win win and everybody lose lose!

This is only natural for politicians in democratic countries to act in this way. It brings no benefit for them when others win. It is also natural for businessmen anywhere to pursuit win-win as it brings big benefits for them to keep the trade going via happy customers/producers. Unfortunately, it is the politicians who control the international trade.

 

[Adam WANG SHANGHAI MEGA]

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And sell it to whom? And in what form will you hold the proceeds? Remember, dollar is only worth the issuer, ie US govt! Also, that will screw you remaining holding, ie remaining US treasury bonds that you hold. It will hurt you more as you have about 3 trillion dollars worth of those bonds in your forex reserves.

Lastly, US can flatly deny or invalidate all the US treasury bonds held by you. It will screw their credit rating but it will wipe out your entire forex. They can do it in pretext of some 'human rights' or equally flimsy excuse. As they say, if you owe bank 1000 dollars you are in trouble if you don't pay. If you owe bank a 100 million, bank is in trouble if you don't pay.

That is easy! we can always freeze the money of americain companies' in CHINA,and freeze americain companies wealth only!
i think apple can contribute 50 billion usd in rmb of course!
GE can contribute 50 billions usd as well,
Cisco can contribute 20 billion usd....
micosoft can contribute 10 billions usd,
qualcomm 80 billion usd.....
and there are countless us companies in China ,much and much more than that of CHINA in US.
this is why china should do it,US is taking advantages of china for a long time and still can not meet their excessive demands,so once for all,eraced completely,you want to play dirty with chinese, and guess what,by ready for more dirty play!


Unless US companies do not want to enter CHINA market again,we will not lose.
There are few and few things that we can not manufacture!
No one can intiminate us on this planet,no more!
We are open mind to talk but not under threat,no more!

 

[comfortably_numb]

And sell it to whom? And in what form will you hold the proceeds? Remember, dollar is only worth the issuer, ie US govt! Also, that will screw you remaining holding, ie remaining US treasury bonds that you hold. It will hurt you more as you have about 3 trillion dollars worth of those bonds in your forex reserves.

Lastly, US can flatly deny or invalidate all the US treasury bonds held by you. It will screw their credit rating but it will wipe out your entire forex. They can do it in pretext of some 'human rights' or equally flimsy excuse. As they say, if you owe bank 1000 dollars you are in trouble if you don't pay. If you owe bank a 100 million, bank is in trouble if you don't pay.

Selling US Treasury will only drive the interest rates downwards benefiting the US. But other countries including Pakistan that have held them will be royally screwed. Would China remain popular thereafter? Also, what about the numerous private corporations including the Chinese ones to invest in T-bills.. These simpletons don't have the basic idea of demand and supply.

 

[Adam WANG SHANGHAI MEGA]

Selling US Treasury will only drive the interest rates downwards benefiting the US. But other countries including Pakistan that have held them will be royally screwed. Would China remain popular thereafter? Also, what about the numerous private corporations including the Chinese ones to invest in T-bills.. These simpletons don't have the basic idea of demand and supply.

As far as it can disturbe us economy,it worth it!
CHINA will not hold so big amount of bonds much longer trust me!
We chineses are at war with US americains!

 

[nang2]

Selling US Treasury will only drive the interest rates downwards benefiting the US. But other countries including Pakistan that have held them will be royally screwed. Would China remain popular thereafter? Also, what about the numerous private corporations including the Chinese ones to invest in T-bills.. These simpletons don't have the basic idea of demand and supply.

No, it drives the interest rates upwards, which means larger discount is expected when it is sold, which means smaller value for the existing bonds. So, the rest of your sentences make sense except the first one.

 

[comfortably_numb]

No, it drives the interest rates upwards, which means larger discount is expected when it is sold, which means smaller value for the existing bonds. So, the rest of your sentences make sense except the first one.

Don't mash up words. More bonds in the open market after Chinese selling equals more supply. And I hope you know what happens when supply overwhelms demand!

 

[Dalit]

That's it. Hit 'em hard, China.

 

[Asimzranger]

 

[nang2]

Don't mash up words. More bonds in the open market after Chinese selling equals more supply. And I hope you know what happens when supply overwhelms demand!

Yes, I know. When supply overwhelms demand, the price goes down. Remember, it is the price of bond. When its price goes down, its yield goes UP.

 

[comfortably_numb]

As far as it can disturbe us economy,it worth it!
CHINA will not hold so big amount of bonds much longer trust me!
We chineses are at war with US americains!

It won't disturb US economy anymore than a withdrawal spree influences a bank run, there are safeguards, US is insulated. But lesser economies like your Iron Friend and others won't get the return on their investment. And how popular do you think China will be thereafter? Will you consider then 'fair game'?

 

[nang2]

It won't disturb US economy anymore than a withdrawal spree influences a bank run, there are safeguards, US is insulated. But lesser economies like your Iron Friend and others won't get the return on their investment. And how popular do you think China will be thereafter? Will you consider then 'fair game'?

Of course it will. As I said, the bond yield will go up, which means investors will demand higher yield from new issue of US bond and US government is continuously issuing them to finance its deficit, which means less money for US government to borrow, which means potential tax increase........

 

[Adam WANG SHANGHAI MEGA]

It won't disturb US economy anymore than a withdrawal spree influences a bank run, there are safeguards, US is insulated. But lesser economies like your Iron Friend and others won't get the return on their investment. And how popular do you think China will be thereafter? Will you consider then 'fair game'?

We did not want to and did not start the war,apparently,all other countires failed to stop US to start one!As chinese officials said:We do not rule out any options!

It won't disturb US economy anymore than a withdrawal spree influences a bank run, there are safeguards, US is insulated. But lesser economies like your Iron Friend and others won't get the return on their investment. And how popular do you think China will be thereafter? Will you consider then 'fair game'?

if the us gov bpnds is 0% rate ,will you or your gov still buy it?!
There are always better options !