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November 19, 2009: China has announced that it will soon show off a domestically designed heavy (weighing more than 200 tons) military transport. Pictures of the new Chinese transport indicate a design similar to the Russian Il-76 (which the Chinese have been using for a long time.) China also has another 30 Il-76s on order, but has been unhappy with the costs. Doing a knock off of the Il-76 would not be unusual, as China has been copying Russian aircraft designs for decades. The Chinese aircraft would probably aspire to the more recent U.S. C-17, especially in terms of electronics and fuel efficiency.

Earlier this year, China revealed that it had revived its effort to build a C-130J class transport. The Chinese Y-9 is a 77 ton Chinese designed aircraft that is back in development, after having been dormant for some time. Powered by four turboprops, it can carry 25 tons (or nine 108x88 inch pallets, or 132 paratroopers.) It will have a crew of four, a cruise speed of 650 kilometers an hour, and has a max ferry range of 7,800 kilometers. The initial Y-9 design effort began in 2001, but the manufacturer ran into personnel and quality control problems, and put the effort on hold after a few years.

The Y-9 is basically a stretched version of the 61 ton Y-8F-200, which is, in turn, a Chinese copy, and upgrade, of the Russian An-12. Like the U.S. C-130, the An-12 was developed in the 1950s, and is still used by civilian cargo haulers all over the world. Some 1,200 An-12s were built (between 1957-73), compared to about a hundred 100 Y-8s (which began production in 1981). Nearly 2,300 C-130s have been built so far.

China wants to reduce its dependence on Russia for transport aircraft, and has noted the success of the latest version of the C-130, the C-130J (a 79 ton aircraft with a crew of three, that can carry 33 tons of cargo, 8 pallets or 92 paratroopers.) The C-130J has a cruise speed of 644 kilometers an hour and max ferry range of 7,400 kilometers.
 
China's 200-ton aircraft to be unveiled soon - People's Daily Online

13:06, November 06, 2009

China's large aircraft have seen much development lately. A 200-ton military aircraft will make its debut at the end of this year; it will be China's largest military aircraft.

The aircraft was independently developed and created by AVIC (China Aviation Industry Group) Xi'an Aircraft Industry (Group) Company Ltd., said Hu Xiaofeng, president of AVIC Aircraft Corporation. At the same time, production of the 80-ton civil aircraft C919 is being stepped up.

In addition, China's L-15 Falcon training plane created by AVIC has drawn a lot of attention at the international Air Show in Dubai. Many countries have already sent pilots to China to carry out test flights. AVIC is expected to win a considerable number of orders.

By People's Daily Online :smitten::pakistan::china:
 
Just curious. When did you started these projects. Every day you are coming with new projects and ideas. Its good to see though.
 
AVIC: China’s largest home-made 200-tonne class air Lifter to emerge in December


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(China Military News Reporting by Johnathan Weng) — Despite of the IL-76MD, China will demonstrate its indigenous 200-tonne class heavy military airlifter in the last month of 2009. This transporter is also the largest aircraft which China has ever made. Mr. Hu Xiaofeng, the General President of AVIC, unleashes this information on one media news press today.

Xiaofeng says that the new military transporter will emerge as prototype aircraft, which is independently developed and manufactured by XAC (Xi’an Aircraft Industry Group). He also promises that the 80-tonne class C919 jet liner is being under production and will be delivered to COMAC (Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China).
China-Defense-Mashup has reported before that this military transport airfraft project was initiated before 3-4 years. Chinese Government has esteemed this project as “National Significant Project”. The Military department believes that the R&D on heavy airlifter should be based on the mature and reliable technologies, but its performance can approach the international advanced transport aircraft with Chinese independent innovative technologies.

The detailed information has been unavailable. Here is the previous specifications estimation. Some numbers may be incorrect.

Crew: 3
Payload Capacity: 60,000-65000 kg
Length: 49 m
Wingspan: 50 m
Height: 15 m
Wing area: 310 m2
Empty weight: 100,000 kg
Max takeoff weight: 220,000 kg
Power: 4×turbofans
Maximum speed: 750-800 km/h
Range: (with max payload) 4,400 km
Service ceiling: 13,000 m

For years, Xi’an Aircraft Industry Group has been absorbing foreign aviation technologies and QC(Quality Control) & QA(Quality assurance) measurements by industrial subcontracting with Boeing and Airbus. Meanwhile, AVIC is preparing the correspondent attached technological projects. Such as CARDC (China Aerodynamics Research & Development Center) has achieved breakthrough in “Turbofan Engine low-speed Simulating Testing Technologies” for Airlifter high bypass engine. Besides, in 2008 China’s research on Polyacrylonitrile (PAN) based carbon fibers will reach its milestone to produce high-performance aviation materials. PLA’s future heavy airlifter will realize the shrunk aircraft empty weight by CF Compound Material made fuselage and wings.

The strategic value of China’s heavy airlifter, is not only the great improvement PLA’s forces long distance projection, but also an air platform for China’s New concept Strategic Weapon System. A great conventional weapon gap between PLA and U.S. forces usually shrivels China leaders’ purpose of taking Taiwan back by forces. So Heads in China Government has been focusing on unconventional “Shashoujian” weapon system for strategic striking back.

On the media news press, Hu Xiaofeng also says that L-15 will participate this month’s Dubai Air show 2009. He tells that lots of foreign Air Force pilots have visited Aviation Industry Group for related test flight.

AVIC: China’s largest home-made 200-tonne class air Lifter to emerge in December|China Military Power Mashup
 
Just curious. When did you started these projects. Every day you are coming with new projects and ideas. Its good to see though.

they said they started these project very early, and they are just disclosing the bunchs of facts recently which has been kept as top secrets for many years. i am shocked too.
i even wonder their large transport aircraft may only come out at around 2016 as we all know that their civilian use large commercial passenger planes are to be in service after having joint production and tech transfer from french company, but now i really wonder if they can make it for the engine part...
 
they said they started these project very early, and they are just disclosing the bunchs of facts recently which has been kept as top secrets for many years. i am shocked too.
i even wonder their large transport aircraft may only come out at around 2016 as we all know that their civilian use large commercial passenger planes are to be in service after having joint production and tech transfer from french company, but now i really wonder if they can make it for the engine part...

about the engine
when you talk about the commercail plane
you really need to be fuel efficient and longer operation time
to cut down the cost of running these big birds
but when it's in military use
cutting the running cost some time is not that important
so this make the job relatively easier
 
No offence but this looks like one hell of a giant preagnant brid to me.
 
no matter whats looks i think future we replace our c-130 and what you guys think abut this one in future for PAF?.
 
the pictures of planes provided are just the product of photoshopped imagined by the military fanboys, the real look may appear at the end of this year2009 or near 2010.....
 

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