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China, which has not found a Western supplier, has decided to buy Russian engines for its FC-1/JF-17 Xiaolong multirole fighter plane, a rival of Russia's MiG-29 in developing countries.In late December 2009, Russian state arms exporter Rosoboronexport signed a contract with China to deliver 43 RD-93 engines, a modification of the RD-33 engines mounted on the MiG-29 planes.

Aviaport, a news agency of the Russian aircraft industry, reported yesterday that China would receive the engines by the end of the year and that the first 25 engines had been manufactured at the Chernyshev mechanical engineering enterprise in Moscow. The agency said another contract could be signed in May for 100 such engines.

A manager at one of Russia's producers of aircraft engines said the December contract was worth $160 million.The contract has completed a framework agreement signed in 2006 to deliver 100 RD-93 engines to China. Russia has already supplied 57 such engines, said Konstantin Makiyenko, an analyst with the Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies.

The engines are to be mounted on the FC-1 fighter planes, which China makes for export. It signed the first contract for 150 such aircraft with Pakistan, where the fighter plane is assembled.A more complicated and expensive fighter designed for the Chinese Air Force in the past two decades, J-10, also has a Russian engine, AL-31FN, Makiyenko said. The latest contract for the delivery of 122 such engines, worth approximately $500 million, was signed in January 2009.

The FC-1 is the biggest rival of Russia's MiG-29 Fulcrum in developing countries, the analyst said. However, the Russian plane won the first direct competition in Myanmar, which decided to buy 20 MiG-29s for 400 million euros in December 2009 even though China offered better terms for a mixed delivery of the FC-1 and J-10 planes.

"China has more than once said that it has created an engine for its planes, but this is unlikely because it continues to buy Russian engines," Makiyenko said.China has no alternative for the Russian engines, said Mikhail Barabanov, editor-in-chief of Moscow Defense Brief. The United States will not supply such engines to China so as not to strengthen its opponent, while the EU does not deliver military equipment to China due to sanctions, he said.

According to Barabanov, the delivery of engines, which are a key element of aircraft, is a good opportunity for Russia to prevent Chinese aircraft from becoming a big rival of Russian planes.The FC-1/JF-17 (Fighter China-1) Xiaolong is the result of a joint Chinese-Pakistani development program that started in 1999, with each side contributing 50% of the total development cost.
 
"China has more than once said that it has created an engine for its planes, but this is unlikely because it continues to buy Russian engines"

What is the status of locally produced engines at the moment and is there any truth in the above statement? Can a knowledgeable Chinese member shed any light? Thanks in advance.
 
"China has more than once said that it has created an engine for its planes, but this is unlikely because it continues to buy Russian engines"

What is the status of locally produced engines at the moment and is there any truth in the above statement? Can a knowledgeable Chinese member shed any light? Thanks in advance.

IT is true that russian engine is better than China's. The weak point of Chinese military technology is Jet engine and ship engine. (tank engine was just solved last year with 1500ptu same to the US one).

No one actually knows the current progress of our new engine. perhaps Chinese military is the best department over the world in terms of confidential. we can not remember how many times CIA is supprised by chinese new military technology.
Also China has a tradition that was proved many time:
only when they are close to the next generation of a new weapon, then they will expose their old one. (I mean exposed by the military department not by CIA)
the TAIHANG engine which is very close to the russian engine was already exposed. the model is open to public. pics online. the trend is that the new engine will come out very soon.
 
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hmm.. Now this with all the india bashing about LCA not having a local engine
 
China had developed the TAIHANG engine. Current production cannot cope with the quantity needed for JF-17 & J10.

Let's wait for one or two years. It will not be like LCA.
 
China had developed the TAIHANG engine. Current production cannot cope with the quantity needed for JF-17 & J10.

Let's wait for one or two years. It will not be like LCA.

Do not buy a troll........ Cool down and by far try not to derail ur topic. Thanks
 
j-10 can't use rd-93,these are all for jf-17.

ps:j-10 have equiped with TaiHang,some photos have leaked.:D
 
Can the Pratt-Whitney engine for the F-16's be used on the JF-17?
 
China might have a huge economy but its all based on manufacturing based on western R&D. China wants to advance so quickly that it has skipped the research part and focused on reverse engineer and copy all the stuff. It was a smart move a decade back. It has just started on R&D part. It'll need at least a decade or two to match the veterans.
China is not too high on technology. And personally I won't trust a chinese engine and even chinese don't trust their own engines, just like India.
Give them some time to perfect the technologies. Till then russian counterparts are the way to go.

No offence to chinese people.
 
China might have a huge economy but its all based on manufacturing based on western R&D. China wants to advance so quickly that it has skipped the research part and focused on reverse engineer and copy all the stuff. It was a smart move a decade back. It has just started on R&D part. It'll need at least a decade or two to match the veterans.
China is not too high on technology. And personally I won't trust a chinese engine and even chinese don't trust their own engines, just like India.
Give them some time to perfect the technologies. Till then russian counterparts are the way to go.

No offence to chinese people.

well the chinese knows the jet engines need work to catch up which is why it is on a duel track system, while developing maturing their own they will buy reliable matured engines for important current needs and for study purposes
 
Engine technology is very diificult only the USA Russia UK & FRANCE have the edge in this field.

China has done well but is stil far behind these western powers
 
China might have a huge economy but its all based on manufacturing based on western R&D. China wants to advance so quickly that it has skipped the research part and focused on reverse engineer and copy all the stuff. It was a smart move a decade back. It has just started on R&D part. It'll need at least a decade or two to match the veterans.
China is not too high on technology. And personally I won't trust a chinese engine and even chinese don't trust their own engines, just like India.
Give them some time to perfect the technologies. Till then russian counterparts are the way to go.

No offence to chinese people.

i disagree my friend the reason is who told you chinese technology is inferior? the MEDIA...when the soviet union was at the height of its power its military technology was shown to be inferior by who? no one else but the MEDIA! even though if you look at MiG21 it still is by far one of the best fighters of the cold war era!!

now as for chinese goods being inferior who has given us that "BELIEF" well no one but the media!

people thought that china would face the barrel for google leaving! what happened? did people stop buying online tickets did everything stop? no infact it didn't even pinch the chinese public! it turned out to be googles loss....so yes chinese goods are "bad" due to media!

if you watched the movie Armageddon you would remember the famous line "Russian technology American technology all made in Taiwan" :lol:
 
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