China becomes the largest contributor of MBBS doctors to India

[Nilgiri]

It is only natural. China is the biggest country in the world with a massive economy, and they provide decent medical training. They have much better health and social parameters than India, so we should not be pooh-poohing their quality. These doctors all have to take the FMGE exam anyway, which is quite rigorous and demanding one....if Chinese medical education standards were so bad, these returnees will be failing really badly and no one will be interested in further applying in later years (word will spread).

Also the good fact is many of the students that go to China return to India to practice (and gain further degrees and specialisation) etc.

Compare this to the ones that go to Europe and US that then stay there and use up their best years there or even never return back to India.....because of the amount of money they spend on the program and the salary they feel they need to get to recuperate that expense and have the lifestyle commensurate with their profession (in their view).

Whereas Indian doctors cannot so easily stay and practice in China given Chinese domestic supply itself for such....so we have a good input/output ratio for China...and they have the capacity to provide it (whereas Indian medical education is overstretched significantly 5000 intake out of 500,000 aspirants is shocking - even when factoring its just looking at govt medical college).

I am all in favour for both India and China to increase education exchanges in all sectors....especially in areas where there is good Chinese supply and shortage of such in India (medicine is a glaring one). This gives a breathing room till India can overhaul and expand its own supply over the coming decades (which is sorely lacking).

 

[ito]

If only the top 10 then anything other than 3 Indian universities are worth even less. But since I know you wouldn't consider all but three Indian universities to be trash, you can't make this statement about China.

Don't throw stones if you live in a glass house. You want to make fun of us, sure, be better. It's that simple.



The US is in a different league, as of this moment, are you still Indian or US. If it's America, respect is given where respect is due.

Did I say in any post Indian education system is better than Chinese?

The truth is both systems sucks, hence you see US and UK Universities are filled with Indian and Chinese students

 

[Dungeness]

I don't have complains about top 10 Chinese universities. They are good. But vast majority of Chinese Universities are not worth the paper they are written on.



Searching on google...and posting random results to prove that China education is better is idiotic.

I too can do it.

Here's the truth about Shanghai schools: they're terrible | Saga Ringmar | Comment is free | The Guardian
The Myth of Chinese Super Schools by Diane Ravitch | The New York Review of Books

Sometimes thinking with brain is more useful than being jingoistic. I personally know Chinese who wants their children to get educated in US and say Chinese education is elitist and sucks for majority of Chinese

I do not have to search Internet, it is well know fact. Don't even mention Indian's pathetic showing in PASA test. Indians are very good in spelling-bee contest though.

 

[yolo2016]

I do not have to search Internet, it is well know fact. Don't even mention Indian's pathetic showing in PASA test. Indians are very good in spelling-bee contest though.

Rigged chinese test done in certain cities is not indicative of your intellect. Rather see how you do once you are in the free world. Look at your community in the U.S it does not even come close to Indian Americans and the contribution they give us. They beat you in every success criteria.

 

[mike2000 is back]

Did I say in any post Indian education system is better than Chinese?

The truth is both systems sucks, hence you see US and UK Universities are filled with Indian and Chinese students

Well, both countries are developing countries. So it will take time to catch up with the most advanced western powers/Japan. So you shouldn't write both countries off so easily.

 

[ganesh623]

Really, who wud like to go to a chinese doctor.

 

[Dungeness]

Rigged chinese test done in certain cities is not indicative of your intellect. Rather see how you do once you are in the free world. Look at your community in the U.S it does not even come close to Indian Americans and the contribution they give us. They beat you in every success criteria.

No, THE BEST INDICATOR is who can develop their OWN country better, or who can create the world class companies in their home country. The top of cream of a society working for other people's countries as labors is not something to be proud of.

 

[ito]

Well, both countries are developing countries. So it will take time to catch up with the most advanced western powers/Japan. So you shouldn't write both countries off so easily.

In terms of potential...yes...there will be a time India and China will catch up with the west, but I am talking of present. Even mediocre UK and US universities are miles ahead of most Universities of east.

 

[jung41]

Good , we should encourage them to practice in rural India where still people are relying on jhola chaap doctors and pharmacists

 

[acetophenol]

India has very less number of MBBS seats, and a part of them is reserved by the government and students have to score ranks in the entrance exams to get into those seats,as they are dirt cheap. Then there are management seats,and they cost crores of rupees.

China and a few other foreign nations offer a cheaper than management seat,but expensive than government seat option for those who have the mbbs dream. And make no mistake,they need to prove their mettle in India through exams before they can start practicing in India

 

[Kaniska]

Seriously, I don't have much faith in Chinese education.

Hmm...I think this is too much of our confidence..I met with a guy from Hyderabad who studied in China for MBBS degree and in Houston now. He mentioned that there are some good Chines Univeristy which costs -50% less than an average Indian Pvt Medical college in India...So it makes sense for us to go to China for study..We should actually feel good that our Gov could not create a proper ecosystem to prepare doctor in our country which is happening outside India now.

 

[Genesis]

Did I say in any post Indian education system is better than Chinese?

The truth is both systems sucks, hence you see US and UK Universities are filled with Indian and Chinese students

Speak for yourself. Only 8 countries are in the top 30, and we are one of those, even before developed countries like Japan, Korea, Germany.

 

[ito]

Speak for yourself. Only 8 countries are in the top 30, and we are one of those, even before developed countries like Japan, Korea, Germany.

I am talking my opinion, did I said I am talking on your behalf. Similarly you too are expressing your opinion and not mine.

Hmm...I think this is too much of our confidence..I met with a guy from Hyderabad who studied in China for MBBS degree and in Houston now. He mentioned that there are some good Chines Univeristy which costs -50% less than an average Indian Pvt Medical college in India...So it makes sense for us to go to China for study..We should actually feel good that our Gov could not create a proper ecosystem to prepare doctor in our country which is happening outside India now.

People go to China, Russia, Ukraine or even to Georgia are those who cannot get a seat in India. Now you can judge the quality of these Universities that take rejects for money.

 

[Genesis]

I am talking my opinion, did I said I am talking on your behalf. Similarly you too are expressing your opinion and not mine.

Mine is not an opinion, it is from international rankings, based on data submitted by the universities themselves. This is a military/political forum. Bring facts, or there are hello kitty forums that you can try.

People go to China, Russia, Ukraine or even to Georgia are those who cannot get a seat in India. Now you can judge the quality of these Universities that take rejects for money.

You really need to get out more, the same is true for Indians and Chinese in the UK and US. Does this mean India just past the US in education.

One of the many reasons university rankings don't look at this fact when considering their rankings.

 

[Nilgiri]

@ito I read that 4500 was the intake for govt medical colleges. Do you know what intake is for private medical colleges in India yearly? (Just wondering so I can put some figures into perspective).

Also brother, dont demean those that go to China for education and return to India. They are passing the FMGE like any other. There is a severe shortage of education supply in India for fields like Medicine...and many quality people are actually not making it because of reservation etc. They are not "rejects"....India is not in a position to have such ultra high standards...rather it is an issue of lack of capacity for the most part.

So we need to fix that major issue before criticizing quality of Chinese education, which still has to go through the rigour of FMGE standards when its graduates return to India. Hoep you understand.