China and India agree to end doklam stand off

[pothead]

Looking at your pathetic attempt at being funny I am sure you are a fan of Sehwag twitter humor.

shh baby. I know it hurts.
Can't help u baby. Your daddy just bent over and surrendered



Where is THE ROAD?

 

[Han Patriot]

They think their retreat from Donglang is like China's unilateral ceasefire and withdraw in 1962 after wiping out elite Indian divisions. So they are boasting: see PLA... lesson taught! Now we withdraw

The thing is nothing happened, they went in camping, use their bodies as human shield against our road machines and now we forced them out. They complied like good puppies. Now to save face, they are purposely keeping their unilateral withdrawal ambiguous to paint a picture as if it was a mutual withdrawal, you can laugh reading their MEA statement. Their pathetic attempt to potray a strong India to the domestic audience. From defending Bhutan to objecting a road, big U turn there. Basically by retreating they are accepting Chinese sovereignty over that area.

Goes to show who the real coward is.. You just saved your *** by agreeing to go back to status-quo! If you break your promise.. you'll be broken for good next time around!

Agree? Can I see this 'agreement', last I heard it was unilateral withdrawal by India. Weren't you supposed to defend Bhutan? RUN COW WARD RUNNNNNN

 

[bloo]

Which both sides? Chinese are patrolling and India patrol withdrew? So thats what china was demanding.



Can you Patrol on AJK? Yes patrolling does esnure sovereignty of the state. CDI

What a strawman argument.
No it doesn't, its a disputed territory and rules aren't the same or in black and white for every country.
We also conduct SOF strikes inside Pakistani JK, whereas we do none of that beyond LAC(none that is made public at the least).

The bone of contention was road building, not patrolling.
We forbid them from building roads now they can intermitently patrol and paint rocks all they want doesn't change the status quo.

 

[Han Patriot]

What a strawman argument.
No it doesn't, its a disputed territory and rules aren't the same or in black and white for every country.
We also conduct SOF strikes inside AJK, whereas we do none of that beyond LAC(none that is made public at the least).

The bone of contention was road building, not patrolling.
We forbid them from building roads now they can intermitently patrol and paint rocks all they want doesn't change the status quo.

So where is this road cessation agreement? Why is MEA not shouting it out loud? . Intermittently patrol? The soldiers are still there while you retreated. China declared they will exercise sovereignty and patrol. Exercising sovereignty involves more than roads, sovereign nations can build anything they want.

 

[faithfulguy]

What a strawman argument.
No it doesn't, its a disputed territory and rules aren't the same or in black and white for every country.
We also conduct SOF strikes inside Pakistani JK, whereas we do none of that beyond LAC(none that is made public at the least).

The bone of contention was road building, not patrolling.
We forbid them from building roads now they can intermitently patrol and paint rocks all they want doesn't change the status quo.

Once they restart road building, they will have enough troops and hardwares to ensure that India can't stop them, unless India want to risk war.

 

[bloo]

So where is this road cessation agreement? Why is MEA not shouting it out loud? . Intermittently patrol? The soldiers are still there while you retreated. China declared they will exercise sovereignty and patrol. Exercising sovereignty involves more than roads, sovereign nations can build anything they want.

This is not pdf, this is real world diplomacy, of course both sides are not gonna shout we win we win like we do here.
Let the news pour in the successive months and see how china saved face.

Cessation agreement?
In a disputed territory? lolololol

Yes indeed a sovereign nation can build anything they want and since China can't in the Dolam area.....


Tenzing Lamsang a Bhutanese journalist who was reporting for the whole 2 months.

https://twitter.com/x/status/902083743082471424

Once they restart road building, they will have enough troops and hardwares to ensure that India can't stop them, unless India want to risk war.

We'll talk when you start building the roads and IA stops PLA again.

Until then do keep your hopeful conjectures where they belong.

 

[Han Patriot]

This is not pdf, this is real world diplomacy, of course both sides are not gonna shout we win we win like we do here.
Let the news pour in the successive months and see how china saved face.

Cessation agreement?
In a disputed territory? lolololol

Yes indeed a sovereign nation can build anything they want and since China can't in the Dolam area.....


Tenzing Lamsang a Bhutanese journalist who was reporting for the whole 2 months.

https://twitter.com/x/status/902083743082471424

We'll talk when you start building the roads and IA stops PLA again.

Unless do keep your hopeful conjectures where they belong.

Yup agreement be it verbal or written should be informed, why is MEA not announcing it? . You don't need a pdf at all, just a confirmation from your MEA will do. Where is it btw?

So now you need a journalist to be your MEA spokesman?

 

[bloo]

Yup agreement be it verbal or written should be informed, why is MEA not announcing it? . You don't need a pdf at all, just a confirmation from your MEA will do. Where is it btw?

Why doesn't china say that they can now build the road, shouldn't that be informed?

Diplomacy is a bit tricky so relax, experienced and mature diplomats all can't freely troll like you.

As I said, wait for a few months, information will trickle down and we'll see how much of its face china saved and how much of the road china has completed.

Build the road, that is the only clear descriptor of chinese victory.

So now you need a journalist to be your MEA spokesman?

Since china desperately wants to limit the rhetoric to India vs china.
What's so wrong with a Bhutanese pov?
It was Bhutanese land after all.

We can't all be overtly righteous like the chinese who can't for the love of the universe lie.

See because only Indians and Bhutanese can lie, not the chinese.

 

[Han Patriot]

Why doesn't china say that they can now build the road, shouldn't that be informed?

Diplomacy is a bit tricky so relax, experienced and mature diplomats all can't freely troll like you.

As I said, wait for a few months, information will trickle down and we'll see how much of its face china saved and how much of the road china has completed.

Build the road, that is the only clear descriptor of chinese victory.



Since china desperately wants to limit the rhetoric to India vs china.
What's so wrong with a Bhutanese pov?
It was Bhutanese land after all.

We can't all be overtly righteous like the chinese who can't for the love of the universe lie.

See because only Indians and Bhutanese can lie, not the chinese.

http://www.fmprc.gov.cn/mfa_eng/xwfw_665399/s2510_665401/t1487932.shtml

Q: The Indian government's announcement is that there is a "mutual disengagement" of the troops between the two countries. You haven't mentioned the pullback of the Chinese troops. You mentioned only the pullback of the Indian troops. How do you explain?

A: The Chinese side has made it clear that the Indian border personnel and equipment that trespassed into China's territory have all been withdrawn to the Indian side of the border. The Chinese border troops continue with their patrols in the Dong Lang area. China will continue with its exercise of sovereign rights to protect territorial sovereignty in accordance with the stipulations of the border-related historical treaty.

What portion of exercising sovereign rights do you not understand? Why stop at roads? Sovereign rights include building air bases. Wanna cross over again?

 

[Jackdaws]

China itself said it will not build the road -


"China has put on hold building work in a disputed area of its border with India as part of an agreement to end the two-month military stand-off with its neighbour, but will maintain patrols in the area, according to Chinese diplomatic analysts." Source - http://www.scmp.com/news/china/dipl...alted-road-building-end-india-border-standoff

 

[bloo]

The Chinese border troops continue with their patrols in the Dong Lang area.

Already explained.

https://twitter.com/x/status/902083743082471424

Again.
Build the road where you initially wanted to and then maybe we'll agree China achieved something.

 

[Han Patriot]

Already explained.

https://twitter.com/x/status/902083743082471424

Again.
Build the road where you initially wanted to and then maybe we'll agree China achieved something.

It's already half built. Did you destroy it? I thought no road in Doklam, there is ALREADY A ROAD THERE, just that it does not cover the whole Doklam, maybe only 30-40%. So where is this agreement on road cessation? Verbal or written who cares, why is MEA silent on this?

 

[Grevion]

China hasn't halt anything and neither Indian MEA says anything like that. Withdrawal is not mutual and Chinese can do whatever they want to in Doklam as they say it is their sovereign territory.
No twist here. These are the facts.

Both Bhutan and China can claims sovereign rights over dokalam its a disputed territory and both sides signed a treaty to not alter the status quo. Road construction equipments have been moved from dokalam, China and Bhutan will continue to patrol the disputed region.
In short India happy there won't be any road near Siliguri corridor, Bhutan happy with Indian support and China happy they got a way out of this mess created by them.

 

[John Reese]

Western media Views


India, China agree to pull back troops to resolve tense border dispute

India, China agree to pull back troops to resolve tense border disp



BEIJING — India and China have withdrawn troops from a disputed Himalayan region on their border, foreign ministries from the two countries announced Monday, defusing a tense standoff that had threatened to provoke armed conflict between the nuclear-armed Asian rivals.

 

[Han Patriot]

Western media Views


India, China agree to pull back troops to resolve tense border dispute

India, China agree to pull back troops to resolve tense border disp



BEIJING — India and China have withdrawn troops from a disputed Himalayan region on their border, foreign ministries from the two countries announced Monday, defusing a tense standoff that had threatened to provoke armed conflict between the nuclear-armed Asian rivals.

Yah you need whitemen to reassure you? . Read your MEA statements and MOFA statements and tell me who was the pussy.