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Children of factory workers and cleaners in Far East achieve better exam results than offspring of British lawyers and doctors, says OECD

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Pupils use abacuses in class at a primary school in Changzhou, China Photo: Rex


By Graeme Paton, Education Editor

10:00PM GMT 17 Feb 2014

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British schoolchildren are lagging so far behind their peers in the Far East that even pupils from wealthy backgrounds are now performing worse in exams than the poorest students in China, an international study shows.

The children of factory workers and cleaners in parts of the Far East are more than a year ahead of the offspring of British doctors and lawyers, according to a report by the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development.

Researchers said the study, which looked at the performance of 15-year-olds in mathematics, showed countries to could overcome traditional social class divides to raise education standards among relatively deprived pupils.

The report was published as a senior European Commission politician attacked the standards of British schools and warned that UK politicians must improve the education system before focusing on changing the country’s relationship with the EU.

Viviane Reding, the vice-president of the European Commission, warned that ministers should focus on raising school standards instead of blaming the country’s problems on foreigners. In a speech in Cambridge she suggested that the UK’s poor education system is the reason Britons cannot compete with foreigners for jobs. She said politicians needed to “work on the quality of education and welfare, so that people in this country can find employment and enjoy reasonable social standards”.

The OECD findings underline the extent to which British pupils now lag behind their peers in high-performing countries in subjects seen as vital to the nation’s economic future and will intensify calls for the UK to adopt a more rigorous education system.

Elizabeth Truss, the education minister, will next week lead a delegation of head teachers and education experts to China in a fact-finding mission. The visit could lead to schools adopting Chinese-style tactics such as more evening classes and eliminating time-wasting between lessons to boost performance in key subjects.

She said English schools needed to adopt the “teaching practices and positive philosophy” that characterised schools in parts of the Far East.

“They have a can-do attitude to maths, which contrasts with the long-term anti-maths culture that exists here,” she said.

“The reality is that unless we change our philosophy, and get better at maths, we will suffer economic decline. At the moment our performance in maths is weakening our skills base and threatening our productivity and growth.” The OECD study was based on performance in independently-administered exams in reading, maths and science sat by 15-year-olds in 65 developed nations.

Overall, the UK was ranked just 26th for maths, 23rd for reading and 21st for science while China’s Shanghai district was the top-rated jurisdiction in each subject. The study assessed how students would be able to use their maths knowledge and skills in real life, rather than just repeating facts and figures.

As part of the study, children were asked to name their parents’ occupation to determine its effect on pupil performance. Across the world, children whose parents work in professional careers generally outperform those in elementary jobs such as caterers, cleaners, factory workers and labourers.

The study, involving more than 500,000 pupils worldwide, found children of elementary workers in many Far Eastern nations outperformed the sons and daughters of professional British children.

The children of UK professionals scored an average of 526 points in maths. But this was overshadowed by an average score of 656 registered by the children of professionals in Shanghai-China and 569 among children of the country’s elementary workers. The children of parents in unskilled jobs in the UK scored an average of 461, the equivalent of two and a half years behind.

Elementary workers’ children in Hong Kong (542), South Korea (538) and Singapore (534), also outperformed more affluent British peers. In Japan, Vietnam, Liechtenstein, Japan and China-Taipei, relatively poor children were only marginally behind the wealthiest British pupils.

The report said: “In the United States and the United Kingdom, where professionals are among the highest-paid in the world, students whose parents work as professionals do not perform as well in mathematics as children of professionals in other countries — nor do they perform as we as the children in Shanghai-China and Singapore whose parents work in manual occupations.”

Andreas Schleicher, deputy director for education and skills at the OECD, said: “If school systems want all their students to succeed in school, they should give the children of factory workers and cleaners the same education opportunities as the children of doctors and lawyers enjoy.”

The delegation to China will include Dame Rachel de Souza, of the Inspiration Trust academies group in Norfolk, Shahed Ahmed, who runs Elmhurst Primary School in east London, and Charlie Stripp, of Mathematics in Education and Industry.

China’s poorest beat our best pupils - Telegraph

Britain sends experts to China for raising maths teaching standards

English.news.cn 2014-02-19 03:59:02
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LONDON, Feb. 18 (Xinhua) -- Britain will sent experts to east China's Shanghai to learn the city's experience in maths teaching in an attempt to raise the teaching standards in maths, said the Department of Education (DOE) on Tuesday.

The trip is a part of the government's maths improvement program.

British Education Minister Elizabeth Truss is to lead a delegation of experts on a fact-finding mission to Shanghai's schools next week to see how children there have become the best in the world at maths.

Britain was last year placed 50th out of 148 countries and regions in the World Economic Forum's competitiveness ranking in quality of maths and science education.

Truss said that learning from Shanghai, and other far eastern jurisdictions, in how to teach maths was key to improving the country's competitiveness and productivity.

The British delegation is expected to visit three schools at primary and secondary level, and teacher training institutes in Shanghai to get a first-hand look at maths classes and teaching methods there.

The DOE said in a statement on the government website, "It is the latest step in the government's drive to raise standards in maths, looking at what has made jurisdictions in the far east the most successful in the world in teaching the subject, and matching that work."

Shanghai topped the 2012 international PISA tables for maths, while England was ranked in 26th place. The top five were all southeast Asian jurisdictions, with 15-year-olds in Shanghai judged to be three years ahead of their peers in maths.

The education department said: "England's performance in maths has stagnated while other countries have improved and overtaken us, including Poland and Germany."

"Shanghai is the top-performing part of the world for maths - their children are streets ahead. Shanghai and Singapore have teaching practices and a positive philosophy that make the difference. They have a belief that diligence redeems lack of ability," Truss said.

"Our new curriculum has borrowed from theirs because we know it works - early learning of key arithmetic, and a focus on times tables and long division, for instance."

"This visit represents a real opportunity for us to see at first hand the teaching methods that have enabled their young people to achieve so well in maths," she said.

She was determined to change the situation as performance in maths is weakening the country's skills base and threatening the productivity and growth.

An education and skills survey released by the Confderation of British Industry last year showed that 30 percent of employers reported dissatisfaction with the standard of school and college leavers' numeracy.

More than two-thirds of employers said they wanted both maths and science promoted more in schools.

The government is prioritizing maths because of the importance of good grades in the subject to young people competing for good jobs in a global labor market and to the economy more generally.

Last year, a group of heads and teachers from 46 schools in England went to Shanghai on a similar visit. During the coming visit to Shanghai, the group of experts will particularly be investigating how the performance of almost all children in Shanghai is high, irrespective of gender or income.

Editor: yan

Britain sends experts to China for raising maths teaching standards - Xinhua | English.news.cn
 
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The truth of the matter is that Shanghai pupils are NOT known for their “excellence in maths”。That title belongs to students from provinces and regions such as Zhejiang、Jiangsu、Shandong、Beijing、Hubei etc。
 
News for Elizabeth Truss. it's all in the genes. Chinese are smarter on average. Adopting a Chinese style curriculum wil only annoy british students.
 
you only need few elites to run a nation or even an Empire. this is British Empire!

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you only need few to run a nation or even an Empire. this is British Empire!

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That was. Chinese are smart but lack expansionist thinking like Brits. They can learn from one another.
 
News for Elizabeth Truss. it's all in the genes. Chinese are smarter on average. Adopting a Chinese style curriculum wil only annoy british students.
yes, you have more smarter people than the British. But if you want to reach the top of the world, I suggest you send more students to the best British or American Universities. These schools form the elites.
 
yes, you have more smarter people than the British. But if you want to reach the top of the world, I suggest you send more students to the best British or American Universities. These schools form the elites.

No, that means we still live under the shadow of western, isn't it? Elementary schools and middle schools have more influence on students, not higher education.
 
we should some of our teachers to China as well to learn teaching math.
Anyways how costly is education in China in a good university?
 
That help silence the nay sayers a bit and it is part of the news that contains the coverage of the PISA tests of China
The students taking part in the tests were those from "grass-root" levels who dont have as much "luxury" amenities like video games as their richer counterparts.

In respect of higher education, it takes time and a lot more investment

Nobody wants to be at the bottom of these tests.
The Op has at least reported it
The haters and delusionals have to eat the sour-grapes or become quitters altogether

If the above is not enough how about this (among many other competitions) where Germany in this particular competitions, has the best list while we can comfortably claim the top few spots

http://www.world-memory-statistics.com/static/files/National_Memory_Rankings.pdf

World Memory Statistics - Official Website of the World Memory Sports Council
 
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No, that means we still live under the shadow of western, isn't it? Elementary schools and middle schools have more influence on students, not higher education.
You have a weird view. what does it mean "under the shadow of the West"?
In any country, the elites, be in politics or economics, have the say. The mass is negligible.

The British established an empire which became the largest in the world history, and now the Americans dictate the rules with their arrogance and hegemony in economics, cultures and military. You want to become an Empire, don´t you? why not learn from the best? London, Yale, Havard and Chicago are the places where your best students should go.

China needs more professional politicians, less amateurs from the CCP.

but pls spare Vietnam and our backyard (Laos, Cambodia and South China Sea) from the dark shadow, when you can become that master of the world. :cheers:
 
we should some of our teachers to China as well to learn teaching math.
Anyways how costly is education in China in a good university?

For undergraduate student in Tsinghua University, it's about 5000 RMB ($819)per student per year, textbook fees included.
 
For undergraduate student in Tsinghua University, it's about 5000 RMB ($819)per student per year, textbook fees included.
That's cheap when compared to some of Pakistan's Universities and i presume the teaching is in Chinese?/
 
That was. Chinese are smart but lack expansionist thinking like Brits. They can learn from one another.

Actually, we were pretty smart back then.

We stopped our expansionist policy because we realized these people are not the same race as ours. We didn't want interracial breeding. I think most of Asian people, from South Asia to SE Asia agree with us.

Chinese civilization also had different ideology. In our people-centric Confucianism, occupying other people land means you are responsible to baby-sit them. Unlike European's Christian ideology, take the land and the wealth, kill and enslave the native population.

No, that means we still live under the shadow of western, isn't it? Elementary schools and middle schools have more influence on students, not higher education.

But higher education has a huge impact on your future career and the rest of your life.

In nation level speaking, it's determine how great your civilization and nation achievement.
 
You have a weird view. what does it mean "under the shadow of the West"?
In any country, the elites, be in politics or economics, have the say. The mass is negligible.

The British established an empire which became the largest in the world history, and now the Americans dictate the rules with their arrogance and hegemony in economics, cultures and military. You want to become an Empire, don´t you? why not learn from the best? London, Yale, Havard and Chicago are the places where your best students should go.

China needs more professional politicians, less amateurs from the CCP.

but pls spare Vietnam and our backyard (Laos, Cambodia and South China Sea) from the dark shadow, when you can become that master of the world. :cheers:

No....I hope China could be a country with high standard living condition, high income, all inclusive social benefit and an open environment for education, not empire.

We are indeed learning from the best things from all over the world, but it doesn't mean we should always do this, to follow up everything in western countries.

For example, higher education is China's weakness, but education in middle school is excellent in China, even the British people come here to learn something from us.

Also more than 450,000 Chinese student went abroad in 2013 and many of them will return to China after graduation. They might bring some more neutral, mature and comprehensive views about the relations of China and the other countries.

What do you mean by spare you from the dark shadow?
 
You have a weird view. what does it mean "under the shadow of the West"?
In any country, the elites, be in politics or economics, have the say. The mass is negligible.

The British established an empire which became the largest in the world history, and now the Americans dictate the rules with their arrogance and hegemony in economics, cultures and military. You want to become an Empire, don´t you? why not learn from the best? London, Yale, Havard and Chicago are the places where your best students should go.

China needs more professional politicians, less amateurs from the CCP.

but pls spare Vietnam and our backyard (Laos, Cambodia and South China Sea) from the dark shadow, when you can become that master of the world. :cheers:

Professional politicians?

You mean those with glib tongues who can't do a thing except bad-mouthing each other in the parliament or before cameras?:dance3:

By the way, an average Chinese politician is infinitely better than the best politician that Vietnam can offer.
 

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